*Crosses Fingers* Here's The NEW BCS Poll

#76
#76
VolinArizona said:
Do you feel like Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country? Forget about what them being #2 would set up, but do you feel they are?
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Not sure if they are or not. I am sure OSU is #1, and want to see another top notch team get a shot at them.
 
#77
#77
TennTradition said:
Ummm....why? In that case, that would have given tOSU 4 fewer point and they won by three, so that would be a one point loss, not 4, right? Also, I didn't mean to say the drive meant nothing..that was huge. Michigan wasn't doing much to stop tOSU when those fumbles happened. Each of those drives could have very well resulted in points considering what was going on in the game at the time.

I'm not saying that Michigan was horrible. The game would not have been a blowout. But, I think that tOSU seemed to outplay Michigan by more like 7 or 10, not 3.
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1 point loss, you are right. Either way, it changes the outcome.

I think Tosu outplayed Michigan and is about 6 or 7 points better than Michigan, if both teams play mistake free football.
 
#78
#78
allvol123 said:
Not sure if they are or not. I am sure OSU is #1, and want to see another top notch team get a shot at them.
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I can understand wanting to see a fresh match-up, and I think USC wins out and takes #2. However, if they falter, I think it would unfair to keep Michigan out.
 
#79
#79
allvol123 said:
Not sure if they are or not. I am sure OSU is #1, and want to see another top notch team get a shot at them.
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It is not about giving other teams a shot. It is about finding the two best teams in the country and matching them up. The best three teams are Tosu and then UM and USC are about tied for #2.
 
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#81
therealUT said:
It is not about giving other teams a shot. It is about finding the two best teams in the country and matching them up. The best three teams are Tosu and then UM and USC are about tied for #2.
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Yeah...the thing that annoys me about it is that two teams play two games without playing anyone in between..if they split those games...they each have the same record...each with losses to each other...and one gets crowned the national champion. I know...they get a lot of weeks to prepare and all that...but something just doesn't feel right about it. Now..if Texas were to only have 1 loss and make it to the game and beat tOSU...that's different to me. A lot can change through the season as you grow up through games. But two games..back to back...just doesn't seem right.
 
#82
#82
therealUT said:
It is not about giving other teams a shot. It is about finding the two best teams in the country and matching them up. The best three teams are Tosu and then UM and USC are about tied for #2.
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So I prefer USC play them in that case.
 
#83
#83
VIA is right on this one guys... There is no reason why there shouldn't be an Ohio State Michigan rematch for the national title. The concept of the BCS is the best two teams in the country playing eachother for all the beans. Well... If USC loses to Notre Dame or UCLA, it's pretty much indisputable that Michigan and Ohio State are the best two teams in the country.

Like I've said, I think USC deserves the spot if they run the table, but that's my argument for USC. I can't argue anything against Michigan.
 
#84
#84
I am not bothered by the fact that Florida almost surely has no shot, even if they win out. I don't think the Gators have played well enough offensively over the last 4-5 games (not counting West Carolina, naturally) to merit consideration.

But, I have to say that as entertaining a game as OSU-Michigan was, I was underwhelmed by the defenses. One wonders if those teams wouldn't have 2-3 losses each if they played in a conference where defense was prized, i.e. SEC.
 
#85
#85
lawgator1 said:
I am not bothered by the fact that Florida almost surely has no shot, even if they win out. I don't think the Gators have played well enough offensively over the last 4-5 games (not counting West Carolina, naturally) to merit consideration.
But, I have to say that as entertaining a game as OSU-Michigan was, I was underwhelmed by the defenses. One wonders if those teams wouldn't have 2-3 losses each if they played in a conference where defense was prized, i.e. SEC.
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I think the only way you have a shot is win out, and hope ND beats USC.An idle Michigan might drop down and move you guys up to two, especially if you catch on fire.I think Arky has a fair chance as well.I'd say you have a less than 50% chance at playing for the N/C even with winning out.
 
#86
#86
If it wasn't for that bad pass call on the interference on the 4th down play on ODU it would have been 10 points........ Now that was the bad call of the game. It just boils down to we need a playoff and win it on the field
 
#88
#88
Vol423 said:
What about the loss yesterday? Are we just supposed to change the way that the polls have always worked historically (when you lose a game late in the season, you drop below teams with the same number of losses that lost their games much earlier in the season) because ESPN has decided to sell the idea of a Ohio State/Michigan rematch this year?

That game wasn't even as close as the final score indicated. Michigan scored with a few seconds left to pull within 3 points.
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I agree 1000% that's the way it has always been !!If ESPN hadn't hyped it so much they would have fell four or five spots .:no:
 
#90
#90
Castnet orange said:
I agree 1000% that's the way it has always been !!If ESPN hadn't hyped it so much they would have fell four or five spots .:no:
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Well, for that 1,000% agreement, apparently you didn't watch the ABC broadcast when all 3 of the commentators stated over and over that the loser of the game doesn't deserve to play in the national championship.

Ignorance is bliss, huh Castnet...
 
#92
#92
A playoff? How many teams exactly? Right now there are 2 undefeated teams, 9 one loss teams, and 11 two loss teams. So, you are going to actually resolve controversy with a playoff??? I doubt it. A playoff system will still rely on subjective selection of teams, seeds, and pairings.
 
#93
#93
VolinArizona said:
Absolutely agreed and I feel the same about you. A majority of people here have so many personal biases against other teams and conferences, that they can't give fair opinions. It's okay for people to do that if they are clear that they are just Vol fans. It's when people try to pass their opinions off as a college football fan when I can READ the bias clear as day. I know sometimes I come off as a pompous arse, but I like in depth, insightful discussion, and sometimes people just don't give fair analysis.

I'm ranting andnnnnnnnnnnd I'm done.
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Calling people morons doesn't involve thinking anything through.
 
#94
#94
therealUT said:
A playoff? How many teams exactly? Right now there are 2 undefeated teams, 9 one loss teams, and 11 two loss teams. So, you are going to actually resolve controversy with a playoff??? I doubt it. A playoff system will still rely on subjective selection of teams, seeds, and pairings.
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I for one wouldn't argue with the winner of a 16 team playoff.What could you argue about? The top 16 teams is going to pretty much cover anybody that has a descent record.Yeah, Im sure some 2 loss team from a weak conferce will cry,but that beats having a bunch of 1 loss teams that play in a strong conference getting left out.
 
#95
#95
therealUT said:
A playoff? How many teams exactly? Right now there are 2 undefeated teams, 9 one loss teams, and 11 two loss teams. So, you are going to actually resolve controversy with a playoff??? I doubt it. A playoff system will still rely on subjective selection of teams, seeds, and pairings.
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I worked this same angle for an hour or two last night. People can't understand it for some reason.
 
#96
#96
16 teams. just like everyone else.1 play 16 2 play 15 etc........... There alot of teams teams in lower divisions that are have no loses, just one loss to and they are not complaining
 
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