D.J. Swearinger

Eh? Are we watching the same video? He was on the WR every single time and never got out of position. He may have let the WR get by him but they never seperated from him and he contended for every catch. Pretty damn tight/good coverage if you ask me, especially by a safety. Alot of those guys got absolutely embarassed and Logan Heastie showed me in that video why he dropped so far and I am glad we missed on him.

On top of that from that video he looked the best of all the DBs imo.

Thought the same thing.
 
yeah ND is reeling in the Indiana talent..:ermm:....Im so tired of hearing that excuse.

Come on Rex, you know that isn't an apples to apples comparison. ND has always been a national school. Their recruiting "base" isn't a state... it is the numerous Catholic prep schools around the country. At least 25% of their roster is normally made up of kids from those schools. ND being "THE" national catholic school has an appeal to Catholic kids in public schools as well.
 
Are you attempting to use the most storied name in college football to make your point? While you're at it are you going to argue that TN does not start every recruiting season with a precipitous in-state talent disadvantage to most other big time programs?

Per Rivals:
AL has 3 4*, 2 instate/1 FL
FL has 5 4*, 4 instate/1 GA
GA has 8 4*, 6 instate/1 FL/1 TN
LSU has 6 4* and 1 5*, 3 LA/3 TX/1 GA (quite a TX thing LSU has going)
USC has 13 4* or better, all but 1 instate (SC)


Now, they don't have the state rankings out yet but I can tell you this, last year Rivals only had 5 players in the whole state ranked 4* or better. Here are other states:
AL-16
FL-48
GA-22
LA-11 (down year for them)
OH-17
CA-40
TX-45

If you don't think those numbers matter...:dunno:

It most definately matters because it makes it easier to snag a few more top notch players. But, as UT has shown before, we dont need in state talent to be the top recruiting class. So while I agree with rex to an extent, I do agree with those numbers as well. Also, I think it was LWS who pretty much shot down our top rated players over the past several years as most of them have been busts. More 3 star or less have done better out of TN than the 4 and 5 stars.

Like I said about Miami, it would be nice to have all that talent close by, but as with the state of TN especially, there is almost 0 chance that they are locks to us. TN is such a melting pot of other schools etc even if we had a huge talent pool, most likely we would lose the majority of them anyway..
 
It most definately matters because it makes it easier to snag a few more top notch players. But, as UT has shown before, we dont need in state talent to be the top recruiting class. So while I agree with rex to an extent, I do agree with those numbers as well. Also, I think it was LWS who pretty much shot down our top rated players over the past several years as most of them have been busts. More 3 star or less have done better out of TN than the 4 and 5 stars.

Like I said about Miami, it would be nice to have all that talent close by, but as with the state of TN especially, there is almost 0 chance that they are locks to us. TN is such a melting pot of other schools etc even if we had a huge talent pool, most likely we would lose the majority of them anyway..

I understand what you're saying but maybe my original intent was taken a tiny bit out of context. It's not that we can't recruit talent, it's just a lot harder to compete with schools that can literally equal our best shot almost without leaving their state. Take our great '07 class for instance. As good as it was we still finished 3rd behind FL and USC. FL had 14 instate commits ranked 4* or better with USC having 10. Some people don't realize AL's #1 class from last year included a dozen 4*+ instate guys. When you can do that and sprinkle in a few good out of state guys it's pretty easy to keep your talent level up.
 
Like I said there are exceptions, but not every 2 and 3 star prospect is going to be a major contributor. If you guys want a class full of 2 and 3 star prospects well then :crazy:. It's mostly hit and miss with the 2 and 3 star prospects. Some will be good and some won't do anything. I'd rather not take that chance.

So, are you saying that all 4 - 5 * players do?

See, the problem I think that you are having is that you take for granted that coaching staffs recruit like you recruit-- in your head right now. They don't go down a list of "stars" and pick up the phone and start making offers. They watch film, they have contacts that you and I don't have. They invest their time researching players. They look for strengths that fit our plans on the field.

The fact that our commits and potential commits have offers from other large institutions, who have coaches that also get to know players beyond their "stars", is an indication that our coaches aren't crazy and just mailing it in.

Have some faith, man!
 
please dont misunderstand, I know that we operate at a disadvantage because of a lack of instate talent, however, just get it done. dont lean on that as an excuse or you might as well join Tennstud in saying that we'll never be an elite team. Let me help you in life and in the world of employment, if you dont perform, your boss doesnt want to hear all the excuses, valid or not, he wants results. find a way to get it done. improvise, adapt, overcome. And I wouldnt continue to call ND the most storied program in college football, tht may have merit, but not to today's kids. Weis is doing it and not because of Paul Hornung.
 
As seldom as this happens, I gotta say I agree with rexy. UT needs more answers than excuses right now
 
You are right Rex. You don't use that disadvantage as an excuse... at the same time, you don't ignore the difficulty when you are critiquing someone either. CPF's margin for error in recruiting is much smaller than those he competes against.
 
yeah ND is reeling in the Indiana talent..:ermm:....Im so tired of hearing that excuse.


It's not an excuse it is a reality. The ND situation is a unique one and isn't comparable to UT's situation. Fulmer's ability to recruit has been impressive considering the geographical limitations put on UT and the general opinion of East Tennessee. Our lessened success in the last 10 years has made it harder to steal recruits from other states. The in-state recruiting is problematic because of being ignored in past years but that also helped us get some of the great national recruiting classes of the 90's.
 
So, are you saying that all 4 - 5 * players do?

See, the problem I think that you are having is that you take for granted that coaching staffs recruit like you recruit-- in your head right now. They don't go down a list of "stars" and pick up the phone and start making offers. They watch film, they have contacts that you and I don't have. They invest their time researching players. They look for strengths that fit our plans on the field.

The fact that our commits and potential commits have offers from other large institutions, who have coaches that also get to know players beyond their "stars", is an indication that our coaches aren't crazy and just mailing it in.

Have some faith, man!

Haven't we been through this about 3 times now? Don't bring it back up, just read the other 30 pages in this thread and you will get the answers.
 
Dude, I'm not trying to argue. I read every post in this thread and I still seriously don't understand the point you are trying to make. It's July, we're in the major recruiting media as a great class already, and you're complaining about our class already.

I responded to one of your points and offered my thoughts on recruiting in (get this...) a recruiting forum.

Sorry dude. I'll refrain from now on.
 
Swearinger was recently listed as the 4th Most Physical Safety by Rivals.
Darren Myles was all over the lists.
 
Dude, I'm not trying to argue. I read every post in this thread and I still seriously don't understand the point you are trying to make. It's July, we're in the major recruiting media as a great class already, and you're complaining about our class already.

I responded to one of your points and offered my thoughts on recruiting in (get this...) a recruiting forum.

Sorry dude. I'll refrain from now on.

Thanks
 
DJ is on the ESPN 150 watch list, here is his evaluation:

"Swearinger is a versatile athlete that doubles as a running back and a safety. He is a thick looking one hundred eighty eight pounds and at 6 feet tall, is an overshadowing figure on the football field. As a safety is especially impressive in pass coverage when in the two deep. Recognizes route combinations and breaks well off the hash covering the fade and takeoff routes to the outside and the ability to cover the post and vertical routes to the inside. Good break on the ball once pass is thrown. Proper timing going for the interception or breaking on the pass. Comes off the hash quickly on run reads. Attacks the line of scrimmage but support angle is at times inconsistent; sometimes over runs or commits to the inside too quickly. Fortunately, has enough talent to make up for being out of position. Shows good lateral support and pursuit angles. Has courage and normally makes the tackle but is not always physical when making the play. Sometimes dives at the ball carrier or arm tackles and doesn't get the head across the front of the offensive man. Reliable centerfielder playing the middle third; reacts properly to run or pass. Shows toughness on special teams and displays courage blocking kicks. As a running back has good vision and has ability to break tackle in the open field and along the sideline. Swearinger is a valuable asset both sides of the ball. He has the potential to be a very special athlete."
 
I'm wondering if we are holding off on Swearinger to see if we land Myles first. We just landed Hunter so I'd say we will only take 2 more DBs. Gordon, Myles and McGee are probably ahead of Swearinger, but I'm not so sure that we have a good chance with Gordon.
 
I agree that Myles McGee and Gordon would be generally preferred, but you never know. Does anyone know whatever happened to Gordon? I haven't heard anything on him in a long time. I thought we were pretty good with him, and he's a top prospect, but has he dropped off our radar or what?
 
It was thought we had a great chance, then it suddenly seemed like he was a Bama lock. Rumors swirled that he was back on our bandwagon, but alot think that he is going to Bama.
 
DB DJ Swearinger (6-0 200) of Greenwood and several of his teammates will attend USC's camp Friday. Swearinger said he'll be joined by Sam Montgomery, Byron Best, Kelsey Quarles and others. Swearinger said he will not work out at the camp and hopes to spend time with the coaches. "I'm going to look at South Carolina a little harder Friday," Swearinger said. "I get mail from them every day from a different coach." The Gamecocks have some ground to make up because right now Swearinger favors Tennessee followed by North Carolina. He visited Tennessee earlier in the summer. "The visit there was great due to the coaches, players and facilities," he said. "They made me feel like I was at home. Tennessee speaks for itself. My parents felt like they could trust me going to Tennessee. Everything about it I really loved." Swearinger said he's narrowed his list to his three favorites.

PalmettoSports.com | South Carolina Recruiting | Phil Kornblut | GoUpstate.com
 
I am surprised that this kid is not a 4 star alone, just based on his athletic ability. He has good size for his position and good speed. So for all you star buffs out there, my guess is this kid will atleast be a 4 star when signing day comes
 

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