Dadeville, AL Shooting

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Vol8188 said:
What worries me is the embracing of left wing values by modern black people is going to only lead to less and less traditional families in their communities. Like when BLM openly talked about the need to dismantle the nuclear family. The embracement of that mixed with the welfare state that discourages coupling is going to be a massive problem for all sides but even more so black Americans
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Too late... its already there. Over 70% of black children are born out of wedlock. Probably closer to 80% by now. And guess what, the summer of 2020 should have shown everyone that the white community is not that far behind. I'll give it another 20 years at the present rate. I would have never imagined white kids in SLC, Seattle and Minneapolis would be out in the streets rioting.

Dan Quayle deserves an apology. Some of those white kids were likely born after Murphy Brown made being a single baby momma acceptable in the white community.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Some mix of the following:

1) universal background checks;

2) mandatory prison sentences for all gun crimes, including illegal possession;

3) restrict magazine size and make it a significant crime to exceed;

4) waiting period of at least 10 days.
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5) Red flag laws to get the guns out of the hands of those mentally disturbed MAGA folks and 2A advocates...
 
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lawgator1 said:
Some mix of the following:

1) universal background checks;

2) mandatory prison sentences for all gun crimes, including illegal possession;

3) restrict magazine size and make it a significant crime to exceed;

4) waiting period of at least 10 days.
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Long prison sentences have been proven to discourage gang bangers from killing and other crimes. Brilliant solution LG
 
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Do we know if the gang member that committed this crime used a legally obtained weapon? Most gang shootings involve guns that were illegally obtained and broke existing laws. If we can't enforce the existing laws then what good are new laws? The President's own son illegally obtained a weapon after he was booted from the Navy for cocaine use. His dead brother's widow(Who he was sleeping with) then illegally disposed of the gun across the street from the school. Neither faced consequences. If we can't punish people breaking existing gun laws then new laws will only affect law abiding citizens and not the criminals already breaking existing laws.
 
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TheDirector said:
Do we know if the gang member that committed this crime used a legally obtained weapon? Most gang shootings involve guns that were illegally obtained and broke existing laws. If we can't enforce the existing laws then what good are new laws? The President's own son illegally obtained a weapon after he was booted from the Navy for cocaine use. His dead brother's widow(Who he was sleeping with) then illegally disposed of the gun across the street from the school. Neither faced consequences. If we can't punish people breaking existing gun laws then new laws will only affect law abiding citizens and not the criminals already breaking existing laws.
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They no longer care about this story.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
One must wonder why you are so engrossed with me and what I say. Let me assure you, I'm happily married to a pain in the butt, yet wonderful woman. So I'm pretty happy and have no desire for a relationship outside our marriage. So shoo, fly, not interested. Turn your attentions elsewhere.
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I don't care what you say, but I'm just pointing out that you're lying. Nice deflection by not answering why though.
 
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BreatheUT said:
You appear to have switched gears from your initial posts in this thread. We should consider all of these acts just as egregious. The root cause is not guns but the myriad of breakdowns and easy access in society. At the center is a lack of core values and mental health.
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While true, you're ignoring people who love to hate. Born and raised in the South (the so-called Bible Belt) I witnessed this up close and personal. More effective killing guns have taken the place of lynching, shootings for sport, using cars run up on sidewalks and grassy areas, and more. We have lost core values, as you say, but hate mongers have always found an excuse to murder. Billy Holiday knew this too, and would sing her song despite death threats for doing so, because it was the truth. That truth continues to this day, from cops who have made this a favorite pastime of theirs to vigilantes like the Ahmaud Arbery killers. There is more to this mess than a lot of folks want to admit. So it gets bypassed, and even denied.

Nope, it's beyond a crying shame to see anything murdering, and me, especially the idiotic Black on Black murders. But instead of rightists, hypocritical self-righteous see, see, pointing, admit to the other half of the mess as well. It's a historical reality.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
5) Red flag laws to get the guns out of the hands of those mentally disturbed MAGA folks and 2A advocates...
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MAGA and 2A advocates aren't usually the mass shooters, so it's not direct. But, their irrational refusal to compromise is an incredible cause of a ton of it.
 
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Ol woody here is the typical old school democrat, racist as crap. It's no wonder he loves sleepy Joe. He's definitely projecting his feelings for black people on to anyone who doesn't vote democrat. Acting like every white person in the south hates black people. Hey woody, take your sheets and hood off, it's not the 50's anymore buddy. My son in law is black, there's two black kids in my house at this very moment. I'm a pale skin, and nobody here is freaking out. I bet if you were my neighbor, you'd be pitching a fit that there's black folks in the neighbors house. Though I'll give you credit, you'd do it online, or to your family. People like you, that's who you are, cause you'd get straight going to the neighbors, and complaining about some black people.🤣
 
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lawgator1 said:
MAGA and 2A advocates aren't usually the mass shooters, so it's not direct. But, their irrational refusal to compromise is an incredible cause of a ton of it.
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Compromise in what way? There's already background checks, waiting period, gun free zones. All the while, not one of you grabbers even suggest a way to disarm the people doing it. I'll agree, people who have mental health issues definitely don't need to buy a gun. The problem with your side, like the Nashville shooter, you won't dare restrict someone who doesn't even know what they are, because of politics. So what should we compromise on?
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
While true, you're ignoring people who love to hate. Born and raised in the South (the so-called Bible Belt) I witnessed this up close and personal. More effective killing guns have taken the place of lynching, shootings for sport, using cars run up on sidewalks and grassy areas, and more. We have lost core values, as you say, but hate mongers have always found an excuse to murder. Billy Holiday knew this too, and would sing her song despite death threats for doing so, because it was the truth. That truth continues to this day, from cops who have made this a favorite pastime of theirs to vigilantes like the Ahmaud Arbery killers. There is more to this mess than a lot of folks want to admit. So it gets bypassed, and even denied.

Nope, it's beyond a crying shame to see anything murdering, and me, especially the idiotic Black on Black murders. But instead of rightists, hypocritical self-righteous see, see, pointing, admit to the other half of the mess as well. It's a historical reality.
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The things you are discussing in the first paragraph are exceptions. The reality is you're never going to cure hate in this world. More true hate come from the ones who claim to be friendly - the soft bigotry of low expectations per se.

Depending on whichever version of the Bible you read Job 14:1 from the KJV says, "Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble."
 
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85SugarVol said:
So 1.04 deaths per mass shooting. That’s massive.
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Yes. It is. Especially in just 15 days. And it certainly wasn't from the lack of trying. Luckily most people who get shot live. Some of them don't fair very well though.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The things you are discussing in the first paragraph are exceptions. The reality is you're never going to cure hate in this world. More true hate come from the ones who claim to be friendly - the soft bigotry of low expectations per se.

Depending on whichever version of the Bible you read Job 14:1 from the KJV says, "Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble."
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You nailed it, hate is always going to be here unfortunately. I had a black friend here in Georgia years ago, he passed away, but he said something that kinda shocked me one day. I mean we know the history of slavery, segregation, etc, and how some white people were towards black people here. He told me one day that most of the people he knew (black folks), wouldn't like me around just because I'm white. He was older, and I get they lived through a time I didn't, and that caused their feelings. For me though, I felt like"why", because I haven't done anything to them. Sadly, there's still white people who are stupid. I had a guy I worked with for years who told me I shouldn't have let my daughter marry a black guy🤣, like it was even my choice. After our conversation, we're not friends anymore 👀🤣
 
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joevol33 said:
I don't care what you say, but I'm just pointing out that you're lying. Nice deflection by not answering why though.
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Still fixated on me. I must have my hooks in you real bad. And you haven't proven I'm lying, you just think so, must be because you crave my attention.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The things you are discussing in the first paragraph are exceptions.

Taurus dung.

The reality is you're never going to cure hate in this world. More true hate come from the ones who claim to be friendly - the soft bigotry of low expectations per se.

Nope, the one thing about hate mongers is, they are quite up front about their hatreds.

Depending on whichever version of the Bible you read Job 14:1 from the KJV says, "Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble."
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And sadly, that's the truth.
 
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