Dave Hart Mr. Controversy

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Volfan2012 said:
The name can stay here. Lady Vols basketball is Lady Vol basketball forever and this is what this site is mostly about. Although I still call the softball team Lady Vols also and if I see the rowing team discussed here they will be Lady Vols also.
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No, it's not. Hart is now saying "for the foreseeable future." Prepare for name change.
 
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Hart can go to Hell, if he lets em change the name of our beloved Lady Vols basketball team,it is a shame to me that he has let the rest of the Lady Vols lose the name

and i see no way that he will stop from trying to do it in the future,he is just trying to advert a big he sucks for the name change now,i guess it is while CPS is still around,that is just a guess on my part
 
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Brianchevy said:
After many years, I'm going to take a break from VolNation for some time now. This Dave Hart thing with the Lady Vols has gotten out of hand and I'm quite frustrated with the whole UTAD, the secret meetings without minutes or notes being taken, and the casual way which the Board of Trustees is not addressing ANY of the issues in the AD.

I won't be back to debate you. This is my last post for 6 months, i just can't take the BS any longer. OH, and I tore up my donation check to the university, they can kiss my ass..
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LG, this is how you take your ball and go home
 
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All I know to do is keep fighting.....everyone who supports the name Lady Vols better step up now.....you can bet your bottom dollar the day Pat dies Hart will be changing the basketball team to vols
 
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Haven't been to hs in 43 years but I'm still a Midway fan....

The LADY VOLS will be remembered way past that idiot Hart.
 
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I havent followed this much, but could the Nike deal have something to do with the change ?
 
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My hope is that when Slive retires, Hart gets a job in the SEC office...he supposedly covets that, don't know if true.
 
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There are currently two women's teams in the Top25 who favor the label "Lady" - TN and Baylor. Thirty years ago there probably would have been 15 or 20. The "why" given for all of these institutions dropping the label has already been well documented and needs no further comment.

There is no groundswell of support for "Lady" from students or prospective students, no campaign, letters, marches - zip. I daresay the average age of the Lady-lovers is squarely in the middle-age range. Not unlike the canned music/band controversy on football Saturdays.

Get on board with the change, or not. Wear your blue shirts, chant whatever you like, shake your fist and make oaths - whatever. The rest of us will move through the 21st century untethered by that hackneyed nonsense.
 
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therealitytheory said:
There is no groundswell of support for "Lady" from students or prospective students, no campaign, letters, marches - zip. I daresay the average age of the Lady-lovers is squarely in the middle-age range. Not unlike the canned music/band controversy on football Saturdays.
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I don't hear a groundswell of support for doing away with the brand either. How do you know what students want? Not many people even know it is happening. Just curious, but how did you learn that the Lady Vols brand was being discontinued (if not from this message board)?

If you read the letters from former & current Lady Vols, they talk about wanting to be Lady Vols when they were kids.
 
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I started watching UT basketball in 1971. Three years before Pat became head coach, and five years before they were called the "Lady Vols". I have never called them the Lady Vols. They've always been the Vols to me, just like any other sports team at the University of Tennessee.

I have personally never understood why a school, whether it be TN or another school, felt the need to distinguish between women's and men's sports that way. They all represent the same school.
 
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VollyParton said:
I don't hear a groundswell of support for doing away with the brand either. How do you know what students want? Not many people even know it is happening. Just curious, but how did you learn that the Lady Vols brand was being discontinued (if not from this message board)?

If you read the letters from former & current Lady Vols, they talk about wanting to be Lady Vols when they were kids.
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Well Ms. Parton, this story has been in the KNS at least a half dozen times since December and there are multiple rebranding articles in the UT Daily Beacon. My wife and I are UT alumni, and our two sons are recent grads...we all got Power-T branding notices in our respective college newsletters.

Oh, and there are other information venues on the interwebs beside this message board. :biggrin:
 
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therealitytheory said:
Well Ms. Parton, this story has been in the KNS at least a half dozen times since December and there are multiple rebranding articles in the UT Daily Beacon. My wife and I are UT alumni, and our two sons are recent grads...we all got Power-T branding notices in our respective college newsletters.

Oh, and there are other information venues on the interwebs beside this message board. :biggrin:
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Thanks, that's why I was asking. I'm in Nashville and only heard about it through the message board chatter. I'm also a UTK grad, but I don't get a newsletter.

A half-dozen? Really? That's surprises me.
 
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therealitytheory said:
There are currently two women's teams in the Top25 who favor the label "Lady" - TN and Baylor. Thirty years ago there probably would have been 15 or 20. The "why" given for all of these institutions dropping the label has already been well documented and needs no further comment.

There is no groundswell of support for "Lady" from students or prospective students, no campaign, letters, marches - zip. I daresay the average age of the Lady-lovers is squarely in the middle-age range. Not unlike the canned music/band controversy on football Saturdays.

Get on board with the change, or not. Wear your blue shirts, chant whatever you like, shake your fist and make oaths - whatever. The rest of us will move through the 21st century untethered by that hackneyed nonsense.
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I don't see a rally in the streets supporting Hart's decision.
 
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Sandvol said:
I don't see a rally in the streets supporting Hart's decision.
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No rallies from the students, period - just quiet acceptance of the inevitable. Which speaks louder than the several dozen mostly middle-aged women who staged a protest event at Pat's Plaza.

My advice to the "Lady"-lovers would be to enlist support from the student body, otherwise you're just whistlin' Dixie. So to speak..
 
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