Dave Hart Mr. Controversy

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Orange Maniac said:
If you think that, then you are truly clueless as to what the Lady Vols brand is and what it stands for.
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What does the Lady Vols brand stand for? Female sports teams at Tennessee? Since when did female athletes become larger than the university? More feminazi bs being pumped through the airwaves. Without Tennessee there would be no Lady anything. We are one of the remaining schools that has this type of divide. It's a no brainer really except for the legion of the miserable who want something to be wrong. And here's another little chestnut for the fire, the masses really don't care near as much about Lady anything if the football team is doing well. That's the money maker. Roast away. But it still won't matter because you will be wrong.
 
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governmentmule said:
he backed into hiring Jones,which was a good thing,his vetting process seems to be slack at best,as in the Tyndall hire

why Nike doesn't want to sell Lady Vol gear,I have no idea,I'm sure Hart didn't see the backlash coming from that either or doesn't care,which seems to be how he operates
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Yeah, let's talk about bringing in Joe Scroggins, improving the athlete's APR scores, going to the BOT to challenge that ridiculous set up of the athletic department funding the academic department, challenging the amusement tax, the VFL program, the new facilities, etc. I could go on and on, but some of you minimally accomplished characters on here want to challenge a guy whose job you couldn't functionally do for 1/2 an hour. It's almost pure comedy to see the delusion of some of our fan base. I'm going to leave you guys to your 'man hating' estrogen filled board and go where there is some sanity left.
 
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ivyleague said:
More important to whom?
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I'd say a fairly overwhelming percentage of the population. May want to check out Tennessee's football history that starts with being 8th all time in wins and 6 national titles to boast before trivializing their existence to fit your agenda. I do find it humorous that you play down the importance of sports but feel offended if a name is added or omitted on a female jersey.

You even took a jab at Hart for being sleazy. What do you base that assessment on? A personal interaction? Hart hit on your life partner? Seems to me you bring a very condescending attitude about a non issue in most fans minds. I guess that's what happens when your parents drop a lot of money on a school loaded with fat toad like professors with delusional messiah complexes. You tend to think you are more superior than you really are.
 
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Brianchevy said:
After many years, I'm going to take a break from VolNation for some time now. This Dave Hart thing with the Lady Vols has gotten out of hand and I'm quite frustrated with the whole UTAD, the secret meetings without minutes or notes being taken, and the casual way which the Board of Trustees is not addressing ANY of the issues in the AD.

I won't be back to debate you. This is my last post for 6 months, i just can't take the BS any longer. OH, and I tore up my donation check to the university, they can kiss my ass..
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So did Dave Hart just cost the AD $50?
 
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VollyParton said:
The point is they did have full access to training facilities, even if they weren't as good as the men's. Now it sounds like they don't get access unless the men aren't using them. That's a step back.
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Sounds like ole 'Volly' likes to twist words. That's not very honest. You know the same traits you are bashing Dave Hart for not having.
 
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508mikey said:
Input from Nike preceded Tennessee's Lady Vols decision - ESPN I kind of figured Nike was the reason
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Well, nail in the coffin for the conspiracy theorists. These last 31 pages have been a great read. It was almost reminiscent of watching a soap opera with my grandma when I was a kid. Just view my commentary as me posting my thoughts as I was interweaving through every twist and turn. At the end of the day, the people who use emotion and their own dishonesty to attack someone else's character lose in the end. Keep believing those lies guys. If you keep saying them long enough they are bound to come true.

Great job Dave Hart and Go Vols!
 
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sanddune50 said:
What does the Lady Vols brand stand for? Female sports teams at Tennessee? Since when did female athletes become larger than the university? More feminazi bs being pumped through the airwaves. Without Tennessee there would be no Lady anything. We are one of the remaining schools that has this type of divide. It's a no brainer really except for the legion of the miserable who want something to be wrong. And here's another little chestnut for the fire, the masses really don't care near as much about Lady anything if the football team is doing well. That's the money maker. Roast away. But it still won't matter because you will be wrong.
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Like I said. If you don't know, you just don't understand or care. Why bring up football? Everyone knows that is the engine that drives all sports at UT and without Tennessee there wouldn't be any Vols, Lady Vols or anything else so your point is really silly in that respect. I just want the people that think Nike was the reason for the change explain to me why they were the reason when we began hearing of the name change years before Nike. It wasn't officially announced, but there was plenty of noise in the back channels way before Nike. This whole issue is like arguing with a snake handling preacher. Blinded by faith while ignoring the reality.
 
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VollyParton said:
What are you talking about? I don't feel like I've been twisting words. The situation is bad enough without having to embellish.
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Not that hard to understand. You suggested that the ladies didn't have full access to the training facilities. When proven wrong, you slightly repositioned your stance and continued your 'Dave Hart' witch hunt. That in and of itself shows you're not real sure how things work and yet you still make definitive statements. Not real honest. Same issue you have Hart. Be better.
 
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Orange Maniac said:
Like I said. If you don't know, you just don't understand or care. Why bring up football? Everyone knows that is the engine that drives all sports at UT and without Tennessee there wouldn't be any Vols, Lady Vols or anything else so your point is really silly in that respect. I just want the people that think Nike was the reason for the change explain to me why they were the reason when we began hearing of the name change years before Nike. It wasn't officially announced, but there was plenty of noise in the back channels way before Nike. This whole issue is like arguing with a snake handling preacher. Blinded by faith while ignoring the reality.
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Lol. You guys and gals are great. So taking limited pieces of information and creating an entire story where mean ole Hart is picking on the women sports is reality? Maybe your reality which is nothing more than an ill informed opinion, but not reality. The AD was broke when he got here, which means he has to lower cost to build back up our reserve. That means having to make changes such as one logo have to be done. I think you guys should focus on learning more about how a business runs as opposed to watching TV detective shows. Just my opinion not reality.
 
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Sandvol said:
I just can't abide the athletic director being a liar. Every time I see him I see liar stamped on his forehead.
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So what exactly did Dave Hart lie about? Sounds like a lot of what you see is a figment of your own imagination.
 
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he lied about conducting a survey of UT women's team members to see if they wanted to be called "Lady Vols" or not.
 
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gule said:
he lied about conducting a survey of UT women's team members to see if they wanted to be called "Lady Vols" or not.
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Any proof of this? Meaning something more than hearing my neighbor's kid's teacher knows the janitor that spoke with Holly Warlick's gardener bs gossip.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Not that hard to understand. You suggested that the ladies didn't have full access to the training facilities. When proven wrong, you slightly repositioned your stance and continued your 'Dave Hart' witch hunt. That in and of itself shows you're not real sure how things work and yet you still make definitive statements. Not real honest. Same issue you have Hart. Be better.
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No, you have me wrong. I repeated what I was told & said so. I am not on a 'Dave Hart' witch hunt, I just want the Lady Vol brand/logo preserved. The statements I make are of what I know to be true. I'm not yet making up stuff, as are you.

Troll better.
 
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VollyParton said:
No, you have me wrong. I repeated what I was told & said so. I am not on a 'Dave Hart' witch hunt, I just want the Lady Vol brand/logo preserved. The statements I make are of what I know to be true. I'm not yet making up stuff, as are you.

Troll better.
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I'm not making up anything. And labeling me a troll because I challenged your assessment confirms you are being less than honest. So where did you hear your supposed information from? What is their tie in with the athletic department? So you would rather the athletic department to struggle a little longer financially to keep a logo that very few universities subscribe to? If so, your not a rationale person and there is no hope for you. Everything you are passing off as fact is hearsay. And fwiw your drinking buddies is not a credible source. Neither is the person knitting a quilt beside you at the Lady Vols game.
 
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gule said:
BRING BACK THE LADY VOLS | A COLLECTION OF LETTERS FROM CURRENT AND FORMER LADY VOLUNTEERS
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Doesn't exactly reflect that the majority of current or former Lady Vols are in on this.

"I have been working with a handful of other former Lady Vols to bring awareness to the Tennessee athletic department’s decision to remove the Lady Vol logo."

Maybe you guys can raise the difference it would cost the athletic department to have 2 separate brands. That way some of you Lady Vols fans can cheer for the Lady Vols and have a vested interest in them.
 
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What is the cost of two different and prestigious brands? Why sell shirts, hats, etc. for one brand when you can receive profit from two brands?
 
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sanddune50 said:
Doesn't exactly reflect that the majority of current or former Lady Vols are in on this.

"I have been working with a handful of other former Lady Vols to bring awareness to the Tennessee athletic department’s decision to remove the Lady Vol logo."

Maybe you guys can raise the difference it would cost the athletic department to have 2 separate brands. That way some of you Lady Vols fans can cheer for the Lady Vols and have a vested interest in them.
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People for doing away with the logo keep saying it's about cost except there has not been one shred of evidence showing it costs more. It's like if I say it enough they will believe it costs more. That logo is such a financial burden they may have to shut down the whole athletic department. :crazy:
 
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Orange Maniac said:
People for doing away with the logo keep saying it's about cost except there has not been one shred of evidence showing it costs more. It's like if I say it enough they will believe it costs more. That logo is such a financial burden they may have to shut down the whole athletic department. :crazy:
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To paraphrase a poster in this thread,

If you keep saying it long enough it is bound to come true.
 
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