Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

[NashVol11]

Screeeeeeeeech

Telling someone they should back up their own statements is not "screeching"; if anything, him running and hiding when asked for evidence is

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

For the last decade, we have spent <4% of our GDP on defense. Should it be below 3% of GDP or is the 3-4% acceptable?

Doesn't about half of that go to NATO? And last I heard, none of those member nations are paying 'their fair share'. There is some good cut right there. Let's go back to member average for NATO.

 

[n_huffhines]

What I find most interesting in the "marketing" Elon and DJT are doing is that it is grabbing people's attention. Some (maybe most) of the "fraud" that's been broadcast has been something that was already known according to other posters. Well, that my very well be true but we certainly weren't talking about it.
Personally, if they have to be bombastic and exaggerate what they are finding, or lie about it, I don't care. It is being introduced into conversations now because of how they are going about it.

I remain at 0% belief that any cuts to overall spending will happen, though.

I can't get with this. Lying is a means to an end but the end isn't cuts, it's just conversation? Conversation devoid of trust. What good is that?

We are spiraling head first further and further into the no-trust, fake news era, and that's not good.

 

[NashVol11]

What I find most interesting in the "marketing" Elon and DJT are doing is that it is grabbing people's attention. Some (maybe most) of the "fraud" that's been broadcast has been something that was already known according to other posters. Well, that my very well be true but we certainly weren't talking about it.
Personally, if they have to be bombastic and exaggerate what they are finding, or lie about it, I don't care. It is being introduced into conversations now because of how they are going about it.

I remain at 0% belief that any cuts to overall spending will happen, though.

Why not just say we spend $14 trillion a year on diapers for cheetahs in Zimbabwe? And then the other side can present their own complete falsehoods? After all, sparking conversation is the ultimate goal

 

[NashVol11]

So, when DOGE starts sending 20% of all the money saved back to the US Citizens, will those who oppose DOGE turn down the checks (roughly $5,000/person)?

"When" is an adorable level of faith

 

[volbound1700]

Why not just say we spend $14 trillion a year on diapers for cheetahs in Zimbabwe? And then the other side can present their own complete falsehoods? After all, sparking conversation is the ultimate goal

The receipts are posted here if you want to review:

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency.

doge.gov

 

[Orangeburst]

U.S. Department of Education Cuts Over $600 Million in Divisive Teacher Training Grants

The U.S. Department of Education today announced it has terminated over $600 million in grants to institutions and nonprofits that were using taxpayer funds to train teachers and education agencies on divisive ideologies.

www.ed.gov

 

[NashVol11]

The receipts are posted here if you want to review:

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency.

doge.gov

That page is just their Twitter feed, but the "receipts" in the Savings tab demonstrate that DOGE has no idea what it's doing

 

[Majors]

What do you mean now? Should we not know who runs it?

When did we care who was running things? This new found accountability by the left is remarkable. Welcome to the conservative side my friend, it takes some longer than others to want to want accountability. We are a few weeks removed from

Anita Dunn
Steve Richhetti
Mike Donilon
Jeff Zients
Ron Klain
Bob Bower
Jill and Hunter Biden
Obama team

Running the country and the left seemed to not mind.

 

[volbound1700]

Yeah and they demonstrate that DOGE has no idea what it's doing

First off, creating a webpage in less than a month for public consumption is a HUGE accomplishment. Try doing that at any company.

Second, I agree that DOGE may be rushing out reporting but this poster is still failing to actual state that this isn't waste. The programs are there and it is showing where the money is going. You can nit-pick on little facts but the corruption is in full view.

We can second guess what DOGE does with this information but you cannot second guess the waste and issues with the Federal Government that have been exposed and probably was knowledgeable for anyone that ever had to work with a Federal Agency. I do think some are more accurate/efficient than others. I have always had great experiences with IRS, for example.

 

[NashVol11]

First off, creating a webpage in less than a month for public consumption is a HUGE accomplishment. Try doing that at any company.

Second, I agree that DOGE may be rushing out reporting but this poster is still failing to actual state that this isn't waste. The programs are there and it is showing where the money is going. You can nit-pick on little facts but the corruption is in full view.

We can second guess what DOGE does with this information but you cannot second guess the waste and issues with the Federal Government that have been exposed and probably was knowledgeable for anyone that ever had to work with a Federal Agency. I do think some are more accurate/efficient than others. I have always had great experiences with IRS, for example.

Reporting an $8M contract as $8 billion in savings is more corrupt than anything DOGE has "exposed" so far (and if that weren't the case, again, we'd be talking about it in court and not on Twitter)

 

[n_huffhines]

That page is just their Twitter feed, but the "receipts" in the Savings tab demonstrate that DOGE has no idea what it's doing

Honestly, if their intent was to make themselves and their fanboys look dumb, they couldn't have done a better job so far.

Turns out, DOGE is the frauds.

 

[utvolpj]

When did we care who was running things? This new found accountability by the left is remarkable. Welcome to the conservative side my friend, it takes some longer than others to want to want accountability. We are a few weeks removed from

Anita Dunn
Steve Richhetti
Mike Donilon
Jeff Zients
Ron Klain
Bob Bower
Jill and Hunter Biden
Obama team

Running the country and the left seemed to not mind.

This post is just nonsense. You listed the exact reasons why we should know who is running things. Did you miss that?

I've wanted actual accountability for a long time but keep believing it makes your post stronger if you pretend I didn't. Difference is I want it from both sides and don't act like wearing the jersey of a political team is a positive

 

[volbound1700]

Reporting an $8M contract as $8 billion in savings is more corrupt than anything DOGE has "exposed" so far (and if that weren't the case, again, we'd be talking about it in court and not on Twitter)

Was the contract cancelled? If so, that is "arguably" savings.

I agree that their "savings" number is likely questionable. The sheer amount of time they have had to work, it is impossible to verify these savings.

However, that doesn't change the fact that they are still uncovering major issues in our Federal Government.

 

[utvolpj]

First off, creating a webpage in less than a month for public consumption is a HUGE accomplishment. Try doing that at any company.

Maybe in 1997 but it's not hard today. No need to fluff up accomplishments that a teenager could do

 

[Sandman 423]

That page is just their Twitter feed, but the "receipts" in the Savings tab demonstrate that DOGE has no idea what it's doing

Who is momentum chaser?

 

[NashVol11]

Was the contract cancelled? If so, that is "arguably" savings.

You may have missed the difference between the $8 million contract value and the $8 BILLION reported savings.

I agree that their "savings" number is likely questionable. The sheer amount of time they have had to work, it is impossible to verify these savings.

However, that doesn't change the fact that they are still uncovering major issues in our Federal Government.

Source: they said so. Everything they've "uncovered" was either already public, debunked or both

 

[Orange_Crush]

Cool Fact: The more you spend on the homeless the more of them you get

Chattanooga, TN is the poster child of this. Chattanooga bus station is now the drop-off point for many of the Eastern US's other cities. It's cheaper for them to buy bus tickets than deal with the issues.

 

[volbound1700]

Maybe in 1997 but it's not hard today. No need to fluff up accomplishments that a teenager could do

It is for a major organization because they have to run all information by teams like Procurement, Legal, etc. They have to make sure there are proper safe guards against hacking and the higher the traffic, the more strain a webpage take.

I created website back in the day on one of those cheap web makers. It isn't the same. If I had gotten a fraction of the traffic their website got, it would have crashed.

Also, from what I gather, it has already been hacked once.

 

[LSU-SIU]

You may have missed the difference between the $8 million contract value and the $8 BILLION reported savings.

Source: they said so. Everything they've "uncovered" was either already public, debunked or both

That's common sense, where would the source come from?

If you don't believe them, that is fine.

 

[utvolpj]

It is for a major organization because they have to run all information by teams like Procurement, Legal, etc. They have to make sure there are proper safe guards against hacking and the higher the traffic, the more strain a webpage take.

I created website back in the day on one of those cheap web makers. It isn't the same. If I had gotten a fraction of the traffic their website got, it would have crashed.

Also, from what I gather, it has already been hacked once.

You think they're running any of this through channels? The very questionable data shows there is little to no review before publishing

 

[hog88]

Maybe in 1997 but it's not hard today. No need to fluff up accomplishments that a teenager could do

Maybe per .gov rules they had to use the same webpage contractors Obamacare had to use?

 

[NashVol11]

It is for a major organization because they have to run all information by teams like Procurement, Legal, etc. They have to make sure there are proper safe guards against hacking and the higher the traffic, the more strain a webpage take.

I created website back in the day on one of those cheap web makers. It isn't the same. If I had gotten a fraction of the traffic their website got, it would have crashed.

Also, from what I gather, it has already been hacked once.

Yes, it's been hacked and everything has been haphazard so what makes you think they did all of this?

 

[n_huffhines]

Reporting an $8M contract as $8 billion in savings is more corrupt than anything DOGE has "exposed" so far (and if that weren't the case, again, we'd be talking about it in court and not on Twitter)

What about reporting the full $1B of a contract saved, when a bunch of that contract has already been fulfilled?

They are frauds or have no idea what they're doing. I'm going with the latter. It's hard to believe they would think they could sneak these errors/lies past the internet.

 

[volbound1700]

You think they're running any of this through channels? The very questionable data shows there is little to no review before publishing

That is just opinion on your part and you know it. Even critics of Trump like Rand Paul are staking their reputation on this and reporting it in Congressional Committees.

You guys are just in denial. You would argue with a fence post.