Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

[NashVol11]

What about reporting the full $1B of a contract saved, when a bunch of that contract has already been fulfilled?

They are frauds or have no idea what they're doing. I'm going with the latter. It's hard to believe they would think they could sneak these errors/lies past the internet.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they realize that some of this money has already been spent, but still decided to report the entire contract value as "savings" to make things look better. They already seem to have abandoned the idea of savings per year and just use the biggest number

 

[Orange_Crush]

I'm all for revealing corruption and going after those responsible, beyond even just canning them from their jobs. However much of what I've seen as evidence of corruption has been "programs we don't agree with" which might be wasteful but unless folks were pocketing the funding and not doing what they were supposed to (which i'm sure there is plenty of as well) I think it's a dishonest claim.

If you're cutting funding for projects deemed unnecessary and wasteful of which i am sure there are numerous, communicating that message works well enough on its own. Instead it's the bigliest corruption. Post some real receipts instead of all this yapping.

"Programs that ... doesn't agree with" is almost as valuable. The fringe left is much smaller than they'd have us believe. If the VAST silent majority sees billions of their hard-earned tax dollars spent on sex changes in Latin America, Sesame Street in the Middle East, the studies of trans-gendered tortoises, etc.. Vocabulary becomes in large part a distinction without meaning. Especially now that that silent, vast majority isn't afraid not to be silent anymore. The days of being cow-towed against publicly expressing your opinion that this liberal lunacy is lunacy--is over.

Don't want to call it corruption? Doesn't matter. The taxpayers will see it that way, whether you define it that way or not.

Trump knows that.

 

[Majors]

This post is just nonsense. You listed the exact reasons why we should know who is running things. Did you miss that?

I've wanted actual accountability for a long time but keep believing it makes your post stronger if you pretend I didn't. Difference is I want it from both sides and don't act like wearing the jersey of a political team is a positive

Your record says you didn’t care two months ago. So no, I didn’t miss anything. Never once saw you mention those names I provided you with but here you are asking about DOGE.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

What is a "covid denier"? Just so we are clear.

I don't know anyone who denied the WuFlu existed. But there is plenty of legitimate controversy as to:
1) how it was created.
2) how it was released.
3) who was responsible for 1 & 2... (we all really DO know, some just won't acknowledge it)
4) was the "vaccine" truly 'safe and effective'.
5) was #4 even a legitimate treatment.
6) who funded this experiment

I'll rephrase it.

Do you think people who disagreed with the shutdowns/restrictions tore up their stimulus checks?

 

[volbound1700]

Yes, it's been hacked and everything has been haphazard so what makes you think they did all of this?

Because it is pretty standard practice for any organization to do this request. Also, even with the safeguards, websites and companies get hacked all the time.

With all the political motivation against this group, it is no surprise that it was targeted.

 

[NashVol11]

Because it is pretty standard practice for any organization to do this request. Also, even with the safeguards, websites and companies get hacked all the time.

With all the political motivation against this group, it is no surprise that it was targeted.

It's also standard practice to take a quick look at the contract that represents your biggest evidence of "savings" before you misrepresent its value by a factor of 1,000, or to verify things before alleging MASSIVE FRAUD!!! every few hours, and yet...

 

[n_huffhines]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they realize that some of this money has already been spent, but still decided to report the entire contract value as "savings" to make things look better. They already seem to have abandoned the idea of savings per year and just use the biggest number

Yeah, and I guess Musk is smarter than me in that he realizes there are no consequences to his lies, ever. Why wouldn't he inflate the numbers in ridiculous ways. It's just so difficult for me to wrap my mind around this reality. The post-truth world is real.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yeah, and I guess Musk is smarter than me in that he realizes there are no consequences to his lies, ever. Why wouldn't he inflate the numbers in ridiculous ways. It's just so difficult for me to wrap my mind around this reality. The post-truth world is real.

Because you're not in reality.

 

[n_huffhines]

Because you're not in reality.

I can call a lie a lie. Can you? Is Elon Musk/DOGE lying about their numbers?

Don't be a coward.

 

[MercyPercy]

"Programs that <the electorate> doesn't agree with" is almost as valuable. The fringe left is much smaller than they'd have us believe. If the VAST silent majority sees billions of their hard-earned tax dollars spent on sex changes in Latin America, Sesame Street in the Middle East, the studies of trans-gendered tortoises, etc..

Are there billions being spent on these things? I have seen some wild claims with little evidence.

Vocabulary becomes in large part a distinction without meaning. Especially now that that silent, vast majority isn't afraid not to be silent anymore. The days of being cow-towed against publicly expressing your opinion that this liberal lunacy is lunacy--is over.

Don't want to call it corruption? Doesn't matter. The taxpayers will see it that way, whether you define it that way or not.

By all means, feel free to speak your mind. No cow towing here. I don't agree that words don't have meaning though. Although with Trump and the constant stream of consciousness coming from him I can see why many might come to that conclusion.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I can call a lie a lie. Can you? Is Elon Musk/DOGE lying about their numbers?

Don't be a coward.

I don't know. When they get done, you could do a FOIA for all their work. Spend 1000s hours on it and post your results.

I don't know about the coward part, what do you want me to do exactly? Nobody is requiring you to melt, melting is a cowardly act, imo and a serious mental symptom.

 

[utvolpj]

That is just opinion on your part and you know it. Even critics of Trump like Rand Paul are staking their reputation on this and reporting it in Congressional Committees.

You guys are just in denial. You would argue with a fence post.

They recently reported a savings of $8bil when it was $8mil. There have been multiple reports where quantities were doubled/tripled/etc

It's not an opinion

 

[LSU-SIU]

They recently reported a savings of $8bil when it was $8mil. There have been multiple reports where quantities were doubled/tripled/etc

It's not an opinion

Its not very material either way at this stage.

I would have given the vast majority of the IRS personnel their walking slip already, I mean we could pretend for this return season that they are actually paying taxes.

 

[utvolpj]

Your record says you didn’t care two months ago. So no, I didn’t miss anything. Never once saw you mention those names I provided you with but here you are asking about DOGE.

The record would show I called it out years ago. Quit making stuff up to look tough

 

[Jxn Vol]

No, we saw how public trust in gov't was lost during COVID

But the last administration were basically anti Constitutional socialists that put Trannys over our women and children.

Apple and Orange………man

 

[hog88]

I'll rephrase it.

Do you think people who disagreed with the shutdowns/restrictions tore up their stimulus checks?

Why would people throw their own money away?

 

[dovervolz]

What do you mean now? Should we not know who runs it?

Do you know who was running the country from Jan 2017 to Jan 2025?

 

[Jxn Vol]

Telling someone they should back up their own statements is not "screeching"; if anything, him running and hiding when asked for evidence is

Please continue. This is great. Never change and be prepared to lose every election all the way down to dog catcher.

Losers seem to know how to lose

 

[utvolpj]

Do you know who was running the country from Jan 2017 to Jan 2025?

No and I said it was wrong then. How is this so different that it requires a foia request

 

[LSU-SIU]

No and I said it was wrong then. How is this so different that it requires a foia request

Executive privilege in the case of asking those questions, as a generalization. We may never know what was going on.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

The record would show I called it out years ago. Quit making stuff up to look tough

Flexing is off the charts today.

 

[Matt2496]

Classic.

USDA accidentally fired officials working on bird flu and is now trying to rehire them

An Agriculture Department spokesperson told NBC News that officials are "working to swiftly rectify the situation."

www.nbcnews.com

I get the impression that they're doing stuff pretty haphazardly.

There does need to be a proper peer review process established for this, to prevent this sort of thing.

I also wish they'd primarily go after the MIC, especially with the audits the Pentagon has been failing.

 

[Majors]

The record would show I called it out years ago. Quit making stuff up to look tough

For this exercise on accountability of “who’s running it” , we will need you to show your work on those names mentioned or feel free to add to the ones that have already been established. If you can’t, just say that. Seems we both know the answer…it’s not making it up if you can’t provide it.

 

[utvolpj]

For this exercise on accountability of “who’s running it” , we will need you to show your work on those names mentioned or feel free to add to the ones that have already been established. If you can’t, just say that. Seems we both know the answer…it’s not making it up if you can’t provide it.

This site has a robust search tool or you can use google. Knock yourself out

 

[Majors]

This site has a robust search tool or you can use google. Knock yourself out

So we will put you down as a new found accountability patriot who couldn’t back up what they said before . No problem, welcome.