Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

[LouderVol]

Just guessing, but Burma is an authoritarian state with an awful state-controlled education system. Building up an educated, loyal to America group could pay off down the road? I dunno, but with anything US Foreign Policy, there's always a reason. Keep China out?

why would they be loyal to us? I am willing to bet most of them probably wouldn't even know who really funded it.

I doubt it comes with any type information explaining the money, or the intent behind it for their to be something for them to latch their loyalty to.

just because there might be a reason doesn't make it a good reason that we should be doing.

 

[jwells]

why would they be loyal to us? I am willing to bet most of them probably wouldn't even know who really funded it.

I doubt it comes with any type information explaining the money, or the intent behind it for their to be something for them to latch their loyalty to.

just because there might be a reason doesn't make it a good reason that we should be doing.

Given the pressers and public info on it, I imagine they know who's footing the bill. Burma's ed is jacked. We were paying for them to get educated out of country. Again, I am just guessing, but nothing we do is without reason. The reason is debatable.

 

[ButchPlz]

Given the pressers and public info on it, I imagine they know who's footing the bill. Burma's ed is jacked. We were paying for them to get educated out of country. Again, I am just guessing, but nothing we do is without reason. The reason is debatable.

...you'd be shocked at how many aid/foreign investment projects are because a bureaucrat wants to visit a country on a trip, or has family there. I suppose that's a reason.

 

[jwells]

...you'd be shocked at how many aid/foreign investment projects are because a bureaucrat wants to visit a country on a trip, or has family there. I suppose that's a reason.

What concerns me is them cutting it because it's "dei" or "woke" isn't helpful to know what it was actually for. Same with condoms for Gaza...they get their clips, they get their "saved money", and the correction later about how wrong they were doesn't matter, as we've moved on to some other nonsense.

It's a cup game. Just keep moving them, and they don't have to have actual answers. On a personal level, I hate these guys, but on a civic-minded level, I hate all politicians who do this diversionary crap. Same with giant omnibus bills. If something is good, let it stand on its own. If you say it's bad...give us some information.

 

[walkenvol]

It's reasonable to question whether we should be acting as world police and world bully with military and economic tools.

It's unreasonable for people to cry about "woke ideology" and "DEI programs" like they are a drop in the bucket or have any quantifiable negative effects.

And what does this have to do with our tax dollars paying for non American citizens’ college education?

 

[jwells]

And what does this have to do with our tax dollars paying for non American citizens’ college education?

That the latter was used as justification rather than an explanation of the intention of the program and why it's not necessary. It's easy to scream "woke" and slash the budget item...but outside of pandering to the base, what's that get us? I want a transparent government.

 

[walkenvol]

That the latter was used as justification rather than an explanation of the intention of the program and why it's not necessary. It's easy to scream "woke" and slash the budget item...but outside of pandering to the base, what's that get us? I want a transparent government.

I said neither woke nor slash the budget?

Our discussion was only about funding college education for non-citizens. Either one is totally against it as is my position or one thinks there’s justifiable reasons to do so. If you believe the second then it’s simply an agree to disagree situation - not following a lick of everything else you said.

 

[jwells]

I said neither woke nor slash the budget?

Our discussion was only about funding college education for non-citizens. Either one is totally against it as is my position or one thinks there’s justifiable reasons to do so. If you believe the second then it’s simply an agree to disagree situation - not following a lick of everything else you said.

I'm saying it's fine to discuss whether we should fund education for non-citizens, but that the Trump Admin position was that they were slashing them for being "woke and dei." I think that's irresponsible and possibly just a wrong framing of what the programs were. Especially now learning that, despite Trump's little speech on condom bombs, that no condoms went to the ME....but instead were part of our very successful HIV/STI prevention efforts in Sub-Saharan Africa.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That the latter was used as justification rather than an explanation of the intention of the program and why it's not necessary. It's easy to scream "woke" and slash the budget item...but outside of pandering to the base, what's that get us? I want a transparent government.

LOL no you don't.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'm saying it's fine to discuss whether we should fund education for non-citizens, but that the Trump Admin position was that they were slashing them for being "woke and dei." I think that's irresponsible and possibly just a wrong framing of what the programs were. Especially now learning that, despite Trump's little speech on condom bombs, that no condoms went to the ME....but instead were part of our very successful HIV/STI prevention efforts in Sub-Saharan Africa.

You care far more about the messenger and his message than the result. I care about the result. If Trump's bloviations result in reducing the spending of AMERICAN monies in foreign lands for whatever ******** program they are allegedly spending it on, I'm good with it.

 

[jwells]

You care far more about the messenger and his message than the result. I care about the result. If Trump's bloviations result in reducing the spending of AMERICAN monies in foreign lands for whatever ******** program they are allegedly spending it on, I'm good with it.

Oh, yeah...crazy me thinking that what the President says matters.
If President Trump is too damn stupid to speak and understand the topics he is making EOs on, he ought not to be president.

I certainly heard enough complaints about Biden mumbling to know this should be a bipartisan feeling.

 

[jwells]

LOL no you don't.

Why wouldn't I?

 

[LouderVol]

Oh, yeah...crazy me thinking that what the President says matters.
If President Trump is too damn stupid to speak and understand the topics he is making EOs on, he ought not to be president.

I certainly heard enough complaints about Biden mumbling to know this should be a bipartisan feeling.

you mean you heard it from only one side, and now those sides have mysteriously flipped, and you want "partisanship" because it helps you now.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[jwells]

you mean you heard it from only one side, and now those sides have mysteriously flipped, and you want "partisanship" because it helps you now.

Brother, I'm not a democrat. Biden should have never ran, at his age. And neither should have Trump at his.

Age limits for Federal offices would be a welcome sight.

 

[jwells]

Imagine calling Accessibility a problem.
Clownshow.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Brother, I'm not a democrat. Biden should have never ran, at his age. And neither should have Trump at his.

Age limits for Federal offices would be a welcome sight.

Then you would be discriminating against old people Mr. DEI warrior. Ageism is wrong brudda!

 

[hog88]

Imagine calling Accessibility a problem.
Clownshow.

It is a problem when dumbassery takes over and there is a metric ton load of dumbassery in these programs/regulations and rules.

 

[jwells]

Then you would be discriminating against old people Mr. DEI warrior. Ageism is wrong brudda!

Wrong. But I would expect nothing less.

DEI would argue you not exclude people who can do the job based on age....but it's obvious age is a hindrance to both Biden and Trump. Their mental acuity is ...not as it was.

DEI doesn't say hire old people who can't do the job as needed. It does say don't keep out the 55 year old because he's too close to retirement.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Oh, yeah...crazy me thinking that what the President says matters.
If President Trump is too damn stupid to speak and understand the topics he is making EOs on, he ought not to be president.

I certainly heard enough complaints about Biden mumbling to know this should be a bipartisan feeling.

LOL

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Wrong. But I would expect nothing less.

DEI would argue you not exclude people who can do the job based on age....but it's obvious age is a hindrance to both Biden and Trump. Their mental acuity is ...not as it was.

DEI doesn't say hire old people who can't do the job as needed. It does say don't keep out the 55 year old because he's too close to retirement.

The fact that you equate Biden's and Trump's mental acuity is clear demonstration that your own perceptive powers are suspect and confirms your partisan hackery. Couple that with your defense of DEI in ANY form just solidifies your position as leader of the forum court jester.

Soldier on. We enjoy the laughs

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Wrong. But I would expect nothing less.

DEI would argue you not exclude people who can do the job based on age....but it's obvious age is a hindrance to both Biden and Trump. Their mental acuity is ...not as it was.

DEI doesn't say hire old people who can't do the job as needed. It does say don't keep out the 55 year old because he's too close to retirement.

Wrong buddy!
The media ensured the great citizens of this country that during President Biden’s time in office he was sharp as a tack and with age, wisdom followed. Currently, the Orangeman is proving that he still has what it takes. Now please go back to the kids table and enjoy your chocolate milk while the adults sip on scotch. Papaw will give up his keys to the Cadillac when he is ready.

 

[Jxn Vol]

TDS folks don’t realize their affliction. That is where they begin any thought or conversation because they are stuck in a personal reality tunnel full of falsehoods.

 

[jmacvols1]

very nice...wonder what they will find...

 

[C-south]

Wrong. But I would expect nothing less.

DEI would argue you not exclude people who can do the job based on age....but it's obvious age is a hindrance to both Biden and Trump. Their mental acuity is ...not as it was.

DEI doesn't say hire old people who can't do the job as needed. It does say don't keep out the 55 year old because he's too close to retirement.

That doesn’t require dei it’s already a law just like other forms of discrimination. Dei is meritless based hiring practices that is actually discrimination. And don’t forget the tampons in the men’s bathroom.