Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

If Soros dedicated himself to cutting wasteful government spending and exposing fraudulent USAID, we would be cheering on Soros as well. You are being intentionally oblivious to why people are excited about what Elon and Doge are doing.
If Biden gave Soros access to Social Security and Medicare payments and the Treasury generally that he didn't have clearance for, and he put a bunch of teenagers in charge of reviewing it, he could say he was "cleaning up waste" all he wanted and it would still be an uproar (and rightfully so)
 
I mean, for people with any level of consistency it sucks either way, but a bunch of people who complained about Soros now cheer on Elon being much more involved. You essentially just admitted you're one of them
Elon is going after government. Soros goes after the American public and I mean ALL of them
 
If Biden gave Soros access to Social Security and Medicare payments and the Treasury generally that he didn't have clearance for, and he put a bunch of teenagers in charge of reviewing it, he could say he was "cleaning up waste" all he wanted and it would still be an uproar (and rightfully so)

Sounds like they are right over the target.
 
If Biden gave Soros access to Social Security and Medicare payments and the Treasury generally that he didn't have clearance for, and he put a bunch of teenagers in charge of reviewing it, he could say he was "cleaning up waste" all he wanted and it would still be an uproar (and rightfully so)
A bunch of woke teenagers were running the White House for at least a year
 

Elon Musk Unleashes Nerd Army Of College-Aged Engineers To Dismantle Government Waste With DOGE​

Six baby-faced men with little-to-no government experience have been handpicked by Elon Musk to help him dismantle America's foreign aid agency.

Now, Musk has taken over and enlisted a troupe of men aged 19-25 - three of whom are believed to still be in college - to fill high-powered engineering roles and cut costs.

At just 19, Edward Coristine is the youngest of the fresh-faced bunch taking on corporate America and longstanding government institutions.

According to WIRED, he's been dubbed an 'expert' in his field, and specifics about his role aren't yet clear.

Akash Bobba, 21, Ethan Shaotran, 22, and Luke Farritor, 23, along with Coristine, have reportedly been granted A-suite level clearance for their work, meaning they can work out of the agency's top floor with access to all physical spaces and IT systems.

Musk's DOGE has been rapidly growing in power and expanding its remit, most recently securing clearance to access to restricted parts of the General Services Administration buildings and IT systems.

The oldest of the bunch is 25-year-old Berkeley graduate Gavin Kliger, who while not identified as having top level clearance has already proven he wields significant power.

Finally, Gautier Cole Killian has been named for his role with DOGE, which is reportedly on a 'volunteer' basis at this stage.

After widespread criticism about the men's youth, Musk released a statement about the appointments.

'Time to confess: Media reports saying that DOGE has some of world's best software engineers are in fact true,' Musk wrote on X.

 
If Biden gave Soros access to Social Security and Medicare payments and the Treasury generally that he didn't have clearance for, and he put a bunch of teenagers in charge of reviewing it, he could say he was "cleaning up waste" all he wanted and it would still be an uproar (and rightfully so)

Sorry false analogy. You believe DOGE is not actually cleaning up wasteful spending and uncovering fraudulent payments despite all evidence and common sense to the contrary so no worth debating you. Carry on.
 
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Sorry false analogy. You believe DOGE is not actually cleaning up wasteful spending and uncovering fraudulent payments despite all evidence and common sense to the contrary so no worth debating you. Carry on.
On one hand, you have an actual practicing nazi (and the record to go along with it) with stated goals of national destruction.

On the other, you have a guy who was brought in to butcher wasteful government agencies and is doing precisely what he was brought in for.

It's a stupid comparison from a high school flameout.
 
Sorry false analogy. You believe DOGE is not actually cleaning up wasteful spending and uncovering fraudulent payments despite all evidence and common sense to the contrary so no worth debating you. Carry on.
Nothing wrong with the comparison, you just didn't have a response to it because there isn't one beyond being a fanboy for Elon. Some here would probably give him their credit card number if he said he was using it to cut spending
 
Nothing wrong with the comparison, you just didn't have a response to it because there isn't one beyond being a fanboy for Elon. Some here would probably give him their credit card number if he said he was using it to cut spending

Yet, he is saying you really shouldn't give anyone your credit card let alone the government.

Elon should be renting padded rooms.
 
On one hand, you have an actual practicing nazi (and the record to go along with it) with stated goals of national destruction.

On the other, you have a guy who was brought in to butcher wasteful government agencies and is doing precisely what he was brought in for.

It's a stupid comparison from a high school flameout.
"High school flameout" from someone with worse grades, worse test scores and went to a worse school than me is funny
 
I don't think Elon is winning 'the left' back unless he completely flips on his values again, but it wouldn't be the first time
he did the one unforgivable thing you can do, sided with Trump after the Ds pushed him there.

they are all political animals, they will change their stripes and who they support accordingly. Elon has a public falling out with Trump and it will be all good for the Ds.
 
he did the one unforgivable thing you can do, sided with Trump after the Ds pushed him there.

they are all political animals, they will change their stripes and who they support accordingly. Elon has a public falling out with Trump and it will be all good for the Ds.
Damn near Trump's entire cabinet had public fallings out with him last time around, that doesn't mean they're all Dem heroes now. Elon loves to be liked though so him pandering wouldn't surprise me
 
Eh, I think that ship might have sailed, caught fire, and sunk.

I think you're right on the rest, though. There's a really good chance Musk winds up under a bus down the line.
you see how fast the right accepted Zuck and Bezos? the left will be no different. Elon throws in public support against Trump gives a couple million, and it will be water under the bridge super fast. there will be some new target of the left's hatred and they will forget Elon's sins.
 
you see how fast the right accepted Zuck and Bezos? the left will be no different. Elon throws in public support against Trump gives a couple million, and it will be water under the bridge super fast. there will be some new target of the left's hatred and they will forget Elon's sins.
I just don't see it. He loses MAGA and he's alone. Well, not alone as hill still have his Twitter sycophants. Some of the lines he's crossed are going to be difficult to recover. Its much more than supporting Trump.

Anything's possible, though.
 
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Damn near Trump's entire cabinet had public fallings out with him last time around, that doesn't mean they're all Dem heroes now. Elon loves to be liked though so him pandering wouldn't surprise me
Liz McCain is a McCain, remember how hated that was by Dems? Suddenly after she is publically against Trump they have her all over the place.

Musk is a bit more of a public figure than any of those old cabinet members. brings a few dollars with him. both things politicians want.

the two sides really aren't any different, its a very "what have you done for me lately" business. Musk was hated by the right, that changed. Musk was loved by the left, that changed.
 
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I just don't see it. He loses MAGA and he's alone. Some of the lines he's crossed are going to be difficult to recover. Its much more than supporting Trump.

Anything's possible, though.
he didn't have MAGA before he crossed the line.

He was/is an EV pushing leech on the government. none of that changed.

and I very much doubt its anything worse than supporting Trump. TDS is very very real. he could flop on everything else but his support of Trump and the left would hold the same line.
 
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he didn't have MAGA before he crossed the line.

He was/is an EV pushing leech on the government. none of that changed.

and I very much doubt its anything worse than supporting Trump. TDS is very very real. he could flop on everything else but his support of Trump and the left would hold the same line.
Supporting the AfD is way worse than supporting Trump. He's managed to alienate a good portion of the globe.
 
Supporting the AfD is way worse than supporting Trump. He's managed to alienate a good portion of the globe.
lol. most Dems in this country couldn't tell you what AfD is with a gun to their head. that is so far from relevant to public opinion in this country.

the Dems literally don't exist outside of their hatred for Trump. Look at this last election. look at anything they are supporting or doing now. its literally just a focus on Trump. ANYONE associated with Trump is toxic now. Bezos and Zuck got the same treatment to a different level. anything that would hurt Trump, like flipping one of his "partners" would be seen as a huge win and welcomed with open arms.
 
Exactly! I was an OG fan boy, but his antics over the cave dive incident initiated separation.

I still admire many of his companies, particularly SpaceX, but no longer him.
I doubt he had really changed. his normal just now impacts you in some negative manner, so he is no longer acceptable.

I have always held that he is the Bond villain we need.
 
lol. most Dems in this country couldn't tell you what AfD is with a gun to their head. that is so far from relevant to public opinion in this country.

the Dems literally don't exist outside of their hatred for Trump. Look at this last election. look at anything they are supporting or doing now. its literally just a focus on Trump. ANYONE associated with Trump is toxic now. Bezos and Zuck got the same treatment to a different level. anything that would hurt Trump, like flipping one of his "partners" would be seen as a huge win and welcomed with open arms.
I'm not talking Dems? I'm talking about people with functioning brains. Anyone whose paid a modicum of attention these past several years know. It's not just this country, the guy has tanked globally.

I think the Twitter purchase pushed him over the edge. He's a very smart guy with a developmental disorder. I believe the millions of sycophants fawning over his every word has led to him believing he's some sort of infallible godlike genius. This is much more than politics, there are stability issues here.
 
I doubt he had really changed. his normal just now impacts you in some negative manner, so he is no longer acceptable.

I have always held that he is the Bond villain we need.
I hear you on the Bond villian. Maybe he has always been the way he acts now, but falsely calling someone a 'pedo' while throwing a temper tantrum can make one reevaluate things. Especially when it continues to escalate.
 

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