Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

[gcbvol]

living ON Mars doesn't make much sense to me. living below the surface makes much more sense.

consider it another excuse to send oil rig workers into space to save humanity.

Asteroid and planetary mining are the game changers. Whoever gets that figured out might rule the world.

 

[Ttucke11]

I imagine most of these crazy expenditures Musk is exposing was pork put into Congressional bills and was signed into law by a President, probably Biden. That's how the system works. That's how Congress folks bring home the bacon. My question is this: once it's gone through all of that and signed into law, can Musk or even Trump "veto it" at this point? It can't be that easy to negate something passed into law

I think smaller bills are coming down the pipe. Preferably single issue bills. They should be digestible and concise enough for a decently intelligent person to understand.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

i don't think he was ever serious about living on mars. Unless we give it a magnetosphere and drag Pluto into its orbit to stabilize the planet its always going to be a hellscape worse than Antarctica in a winter storm

Terraforming sounds phkn awesome. Terraforming planets in the same fashion Weyland-Yutani corp did in Aliens.

 

[apevol]

I believe the idea is that we could create an atmosphere over the next 500 years, and then live there.

without a magnetosphere we're cooked alive. with a magnetosphere, everything else done to make the planet habitable will make it a magmatic hellscape with fetid toxic oceans without a suitably large enough body in orbit to stabilize the planet

 

[Grand Vol]

What are you talking about?

Like which agency or agencies should be "off limits" to DOGE getting involved?

Legitimate question and not argumentative.

 

[gcbvol]

without a magnetosphere we're cooked alive. with a magnetosphere, everything else done to make the planet habitable will make it a magmatic hellscape with fetid toxic oceans without a suitably large enough body in orbit to stabilize the planet

Yeah, as was mentioned, underground is only viable solution. Mars could only really be a type of port if/when we're capable of interstellar travel.

 

[LouderVol]

I believe the idea is that we could create an atmosphere over the next 500 years, and then live there.

yeah I don't see that working unless we create a magnetosphere some how. and that goes far beyond any "terra forming"that even science fiction touches.

 

[apevol]

omg, yall really need to stop minimizing actual Nazis.

These are nazis. He's welcomed the heat because he's immature and thinks its funny.

 

[LouderVol]

Huh?

anytime anyone attaches anything that isn't actually a Nazi action to Nazi's, ie the "neo nazi salute", minimizes what the Nazis actually did. it is not good precedence to minimize what those awful people actually did. tying to some Asperger's awkward AF wave is just ridiculous on face value.

the Nazis weren't a cartoon/meme. they won't be one if they come back. confusing the narrative on what actual Nazi's are is not helpful in any way.

besides its all just political bs.

 

[LSU-SIU]

All the Ukraine information should be made public including the CIA assets there, imo. Including the other eastern european countries as well.

USAID Funded Censorship, Smears of Americans

 

[LouderVol]

Terraforming sounds phkn awesome. Terraforming planets in the same fashion Weyland-Yutani corp did in Aliens.

ever since Neil Degrasse Tyson pointed it out, I can never see past the flaw in the thinking that terra forming a distant world will save humanity.

the idea is that we can take some foreign object, that doesn't have the same magnetosphere, mass, gravity, doesn't have the same orbit and sunlight, doesn't have the same lunar body, doesn't have water, an atmosphere, doesn't have access to any type of energy source we will be able to use; and turn it into an earth-lite is laughable considering that we apparently couldn't do the same "terra forming" to save earth.

we are going to turn Titan into Terra, but we can't turn Terra into Terra?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

ever since Neil Degrasse Tyson pointed it out, I can never see past the flaw in the thinking that terra forming a distant world will save humanity.

the idea is that we can take some foreign object, that doesn't have the same magnetosphere, mass, gravity, doesn't have the same orbit and sunlight, doesn't have the same lunar body, doesn't have water, an atmosphere, doesn't have access to any type of energy source we will be able to use; and turn it into an earth-lite is laughable considering that we apparently couldn't do the same "terra forming" to save earth.

we are going to turn Titan into Terra, but we can't turn Terra into Terra?

Well of course buddy but it is cool to think about. If the feat could be accomplished in the future, it most likely won't save humanity but would rather be for expansion purposes. Technology is obviously no where close to an achievement like that. Hell, I have to put a frozen waffle in my toaster twice for the desired amount of crispiness on level 2.

 

[apevol]

Well of course buddy but it is cool to think about. If the feat could be accomplished in the future, it most likely won't save humanity but would rather be for expansion purposes. Technology is obviously no where close to an achievement like that. Hell, I have to put a frozen waffle in my toaster twice.

we cant even make decent microwaves

 

[apevol]

or a charging cord that doesn't die in a couple months

 

[PEPPERJAX]

or a charging cord that doesn't die in a couple months

Does that prevent you from wondering about a selfie pic on Mars next to a large red rock?

 

[apevol]

Terraforming sounds phkn awesome. Terraforming planets in the same fashion Weyland-Yutani corp did in Aliens.

at least they're not ****ing each other over for a percentage

 

[apevol]

Does that prevent you from wondering about a selfie pic on Mars next to a large red rock?

i cant take a pic with my phone continuously at 4%

 

[Vol423]

I believe the idea is that we could create an atmosphere over the next 500 years, and then live there.

Right. The liberals are doing such a bang-up job trying to moderate Earth's temperature by 1-degree over about 50 years at a cost of trillions of dollars. I'm sure they'll pull off the creation of a livable atmosphere from scratch.

 

[n_huffhines]

Like which agency or agencies should be "off limits" to DOGE getting involved?

Legitimate question and not argumentative.

Are there any?

 

[Grand Vol]

ever since Neil Degrasse Tyson pointed it out, I can never see past the flaw in the thinking that terra forming a distant world will save humanity.

the idea is that we can take some foreign object, that doesn't have the same magnetosphere, mass, gravity, doesn't have the same orbit and sunlight, doesn't have the same lunar body, doesn't have water, an atmosphere, doesn't have access to any type of energy source we will be able to use; and turn it into an earth-lite is laughable considering that we apparently couldn't do the same "terra forming" to save earth.

we are going to turn Titan into Terra, but we can't turn Terra into Terra?

I know it's sci-fi, but I liked the idea Corey had in The Expanse series. Basically how the Mars citizens had built their own magnetosphere prior to trying to terraform the rest of Mars.

Saw a documentary on YouTube about the "how" it could be done as well. Apparently the technology exists. However, the methods to power said technology do not exist yet.

 

[n_huffhines]

anytime anyone attaches anything that isn't actually a Nazi action to Nazi's, ie the "neo nazi salute", minimizes what the Nazis actually did. it is not good precedence to minimize what those awful people actually did. tying to some Asperger's awkward AF wave is just ridiculous on face value.

the Nazis weren't a cartoon/meme. they won't be one if they come back. confusing the narrative on what actual Nazi's are is not helpful in any way.

besides its all just political bs.

I am not calling him a Nazi. I'm talking about what happened. In no way is that a commentary on actual Nazis.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

Ok. I'll give you some of it. But the federal DOE is a waste. Smaller federal everything is the ultimate goal here.

Local parents and school districts should decide. Some of the news and videos we’ve seen on local education departments and policies are pathetic, and ooze corruption…so much so the fbi felt the need to spy on the parents allegedly.
Bottom line if locals vote for DEI and Tranny story time that’s on them. America has obviously fallen well behind as a whole in recent times despite the Gov funding.

 

[gcbvol]

I know it's sci-fi, but I liked the idea Corey had in The Expanse series. Basically how the Mars citizens had built their own magnetosphere prior to trying to terraform the rest of Mars.

Saw a documentary on YouTube about the "how" it cities be done as well. Apparently the technology exists. However, the methods to power said technology do not exist yet.

Allegedly.

 

[Grand Vol]

Are there any?

I don't believe there are. Just seeing if you had something in mind.

The thing is, this is all "easy money" up front. Yeah, they are going to save a bunch on dumb projects like nixing creating trans comic books in Burkino Faso and whatnot.

But the real meat of government reform and "savings" is going to be the deep dive into government regulations.

This is easy up front. That's going to be the hard part. Reigning in those who just love to write things into policy.

 

[Orangeburst]

Planet Stacey is habitable.