Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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SpaceCoastVol said:
After the last four years and the Soetoro regime before that, if it has a little revenge in it as well, I'm good with it.

"Elections have consequences"
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so you were good with Biden going after Trump? because that election had consequences too? Or what about the next election the Rs lose? You going to support the Dems going after Rs then?

I want it to stop. the revenge and pettiness is just childish and just leads to more and worse of the same actions we should be stopping.

yall are just political hacks who don't actually care about this country. you just want to get yours.
 
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gcbvol said:
Admin vs read only access to a critical softwate system is risky. Wanting caution there does not mean one is against the larger effort to identify and eliminate fraud. We might be jumping to some incorrect conclusions.
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Agreed, but an unnamed source from Wired does not confirm it is happening. The Treasury Secretary said they have read only access.
 
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CobbVol said:
Agreed, but an unnamed source from Wired does not confirm it is happening. The Treasury Secretary said they have read only access.
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Yeah. I'll bet several of us have worked around systems where someone has ****ed up and crashed it. So just hearing that raises flags. Access to payroll systems, specifically, was guarded like Fort Knox.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I would say its pretty obvious the funds are being used not only against political opponents but further to possibly circumvent U.S. law and international law but more work needs to be done. I would suggest we let them continue to do their work so that we can get to the bottom of it all, if possible. In the meantime, the more obvious things can be shutdown.
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Again, I said the system that dispersed the funds not the funds themselves. You keep claiming I said nothing while the actual system was compromised yet can't point out when that happened.
 
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utvolpj said:
Again, I said the system that dispersed the funds not the funds themselves. You keep claiming I said nothing while the actual system was compromised yet can't point out when that happened.
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Apparently this behavior has been going on for quite some time, when it all started I don't know.... maybe let them get to the bottom of it all i.e. transparency. For sane people these are not difficult concepts.

In the meantime, I doubt many cute dogs are harmed. Maybe go take a vacation or do some gardening.
 
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Sea Ray said:
A lot changes in 3 yrs. It's quite possible that this dept got out of hand in the past 3 yrs
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Rubio was a senator with access to and approval of the USAID budget during that time period, and the contracts were readily available for anyone to view.

I don't think he can claim ignorance, unless it was willful ignorance to maintain plausible deniability.
 
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Septic said:
Where was this energy when Donny was colluding to hide classified documents from the FBI and DOJ?
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You mean where they were raiding his house in all out panic because he might have evidence against their crimes? Time will tell on that.

Presidents have ability to declass at will, so any documents he had from when he was president were perfectly legal as was already established in a court case with Obama. Catch the f*** up.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
You mean where they were raiding his house in all out panic because he might have evidence against their crimes? Time will tell on that.

Presidents have ability to declass at will, so any documents he had from when he was president were perfectly legal as was already established in a court case with Obama. Catch the f*** up.
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Obama declassified before he took it off property. Trump tried to do it after the raid
 
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To all the hand-ringers. Where do you think this ends up? I mean just take one of these stories like the USAID funds that literally led to the creation of Covid-19. And these stories are coming out like 12 a day. Where exactly do you think this is going? This is what 2 weeks in? They haven't even gotten to the worst corruption yet, more and more is going to come out day by day. Wait till they start to go back and coups around the world get shown to be what everyone always suspected. These are things I am old enough to remember the classical liberals had a problem with. I can remember when the left didn't support a rogue CIA going around playing revolutionary. The more the left defends the corruption the more the left will forever be chained to it. Right now you guys are comitting political suicide by hitching yourself to defend the crimes of USAID. Especially as those crimes go international....and they already are. I have never seen so many friends that are generally left leaning get red pilled as fast as they have been over the last 7 days. Even left leaning nations are getting red pilled on how they have been manipulated.

But by all means keep up digging your own holes......I will dance on the DNC's grave. Maybe we can have a new 2 party system of MAGA vs RINO.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
To all the hand-ringers. Where do you think this ends up? I mean just take one of these storieslike the USAID funds that literally led to the creation of Covid-19. And these tories are coming out like 12 a day. Where exactly do you think this is going? This is what 2 weeks in? They haven't even gotten to the worst corruption yet, more and more is going to come out day by day. Wait till they start to go back and coups around the world get shown to be what everyone always suspected. These are things I am old enough to remember the classical liberals had a problem with. I can remember when the left didn't support a rogue CIA going around playing revolutionary. The more the left defends the corruption the more the left will forever be chained to it. Right now you guys are comitting political suicide by hitching yourself to defend the crimes of USAID. Especially as those crimes go international....and they already are. I have never seen so many friends that are generally left leaning get red pilled as fast as they have been over the last 7 days. Even left leaning nations are getting red pilled on how they have been maipulated.

But by all means keep up digging your own holes......I will dance on the DNC's grave. Maybe we can have a new 2 party system of MAGA vs RINO.
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Much larger amounts by dollar will be within statutory created and funded agencies. Yes, this is only the small potatoes.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
You mean where they were raiding his house in all out panic because he might have evidence against their crimes? Time will tell on that.

Presidents have ability to declass at will, so any documents he had from when he was president were perfectly legal as was already established in a court case with Obama. Catch the f*** up.
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The insane are sitting there with the old program, but the old program doesn't work in the new reality. So, you see that guy that doesn't even understand what he is saying isn't all that great for the people that previously programmed him at the present time. He has no ability to critically think of reality as it is today, he is living the lie he was told but he can't escape it.

He's probably going around the house yelling that the Orange man is in super duper big trouble now, because the alternative is he would have to address his own mental state.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
I’m not a CPA nor do I play one on VN, so I will defer this question to a tax professional.

Maybe the gator lawyer can answer your question. He is never ever wrong.
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My accountant already told me it's a no-go and I'd be cooked if I was audited.

If I was audited.

If.

I know plenty of people, including a CPA that are rolling that dice. I'm not there yet.
 
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apevol said:
this is the textbook definition of strawman
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You can call it whatever you want. (If you actually pay taxes) your money, just like ours, has been wasted on BS and it's getting exposed. Trump is doing exactly what he promised. How can that possibly upset any American other than the ones getting rich off of the scam? Is it just because the MSM (which, it appears, is also bankrolled by USAID) told you to be upset, or is it just your TDS?

You are actually winning here, too, and you don't even realize it.
 
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utvolpj said:
I never cared before? Can you point to where the systems were previosly compromised on this level and I ignored it? I've got lots of posts on this board that show you're grossly exaggerating or very likely lying.

I'm not going apeshit as you want to paint me. I realize it's actually important to your argument that you characterize me in that way but it really makes you look silly

If you approve of the way this project is being handled then you had nothing to do with dev or administering a system. At least not one that didn't run on punch cards
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...where the systems were previously compromised on this level....

You have got to be kidding.
 
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