Derek Chauvin trial

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hUTch2002 said:
True, any and all doubt is different than reasonable doubt but when a man has more than the average lethal dose of fentanyl in his system plus many other drugs then it is reasonable to think there’s a chance that could have killed him whether he was on the ground or in the car. Floyd even said he would die in the car and that he couldn’t breathe before he ever had a knee on his back.
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All of that is true. But all the hypotheticals didn't occur. Floyd died with Chauvin's knee on his neck, and two MEs ruled it a homicide. I mean, Chauvin could have pulled out a knife and stabbed Floyd in the neck and Floyd would have been just as likely to OD, but surely you wouldn't be arguing reasonable doubt.
 
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Septic said:
Well, if anyone expects 1st they're certainly going to be disappointed since it's not in the table.
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Well, I have my doubts that those who were calling for first degree this summer, and there were some, im not saying it was all. Are going to be informed enough to know its not on the table.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It’s always the people who have never been in law enforcement, in healthcare, or in court that think they are FB experts lol
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How many time do I need to remind you that making photo stickers at the "security" desk for hospital visitors isn't law enforcement or healthcare?
 
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bamawriter said:
All of that is true. But all the hypotheticals didn't occur. Floyd died with Chauvin's knee on his neck, and two MEs ruled it a homicide. I mean, Chauvin could have pulled out a knife and stabbed Floyd in the neck and Floyd would have been just as likely to OD, but surely you wouldn't be arguing reasonable doubt.
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Because then there’d be absolutely no doubt. The ONLY reason the MEs ruled that way is the video but the video doesn’t 100% show how Floyd died. They suspect Floyd died due to asphyxiation but even they said there’s no evidence of it. It’s literally a guess, an educated guess, but a guess.
 
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Septic said:
How many time do I need to remind you that making photo stickers at the "security" desk for hospital visitors isn't law enforcement or healthcare?
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Still don’t know what this is supposed to mean since I’ve never done this nor does the Hospital I work for do it now. The only uniform I wear is a suit LOL. Better stick to selling out to taking $ from pharmaceutical companies because you failed at nursing 😂 which is hilarious
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Still don’t know what this is supposed to mean since I’ve never done this nor does the Hospital I work for do it now. The only uniform I wear is a suit LOL. Better stick to selling out to taking $ from pharmaceutical companies because you failed at nursing 😂 which is hilarious
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Wait do they let you pretend to be a police person at your group home then, between snack time and gluing pasta on construction paper?
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
It was in the autopsy.
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Not only that septic as usual didn’t educate himself on Floyd’s 40 plus recent ED visits for the usual frequent flyer drug addict/homeless/criminal variety and his previous health issues. Weird for a failed RN not to understand that. Guess there’s a reason he pushes drugs for Big Pharm now
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Not only that septic as usual didn’t educate himself on Floyd’s 40 plus recent ED visits for the usual frequent flyer drug addict/homeless/criminal variety and his previous health issues. Weird for a failed RN not to understand that. Guess there’s a reason he pushes drugs for Big Pharm now
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I don’t know what his reason was for switching, I do know that cardio pulmonary process has never changed and will never change. You get it or you don’t.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
It was in the autopsy.
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The process that killed him was asphyxiation and an MI, which was secondary to 10 minutes of continuous neck and chest compression. That was the ruling by the three pathologists that conducted the two autopsys.

Otherwise this wouldn't have been ruled a homicide. You get that, right?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Not only that septic as usual didn’t educate himself on Floyd’s 40 plus recent ED visits for the usual frequent flyer drug addict/homeless/criminal variety and his previous health issues. Weird for a failed RN not to understand that. Guess there’s a reason he pushes drugs for Big Pharm now
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Sit down security guard, take your lumps and move on. Venting your butthurt and lashing out over constantly getting b-slapped isn't a good look.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It’s always the people who have never been in law enforcement, in healthcare, or in court that think they are FB experts lol
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It's the same in education. It's always the people who have zero first hand experience that feel they have some sort of unique knowledge or perspective.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
They literally said they guessed based on watching the video. They didn’t use the word guess of course but that’s what they are saying. If the same things happened only there was physical evidence like brushing or damage to the upper back and neck, the ME watched the video, and said they ruled it as an OD then you’d be all up in arms because you wouldn’t believe the ME.
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You take a lot of liberties with the truth 😆
 
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Hey this last page was fun to read. Sepsis is a nurse and RickyVol is a security guard and they traded barbs. Oh and I forgot Luther jumped in to side with the non-participants in their worlds are losers.
 
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Septic said:
The process that killed him was asphyxiation and an MI, which was secondary to 10 minutes of continuous neck and chest compression. That was the ruling by the three pathologists that conducted the two autopsys.

Otherwise this wouldn't have been ruled a homicide. You get that, right?
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I haven’t had enough coffee for this but I get the whole thing. People drop dead every day with those autopsy findings alone. Add a buttload of fentanyl and the cocktail of drugs he already had in his system and you’ve got a minute to minute time bomb. They found metabolites of fentanyl on autopsy drug screen. Meaning whatever he swallowed had time to start metabolizing into his system.
Traumatic lethal asphyxiation causes telltale physical findings on an autopsy yet those telltale signs are absent from the autopsy report. They did not highlight his physical condition as primary contributor to his death. They didn’t link his swallowing drugs as secondary to his death. They did however link the event involving chauvin as primary cause of death by homicide. I’m looking at what’s there and what’s not there.
Do I feel strongly that gf was a walking dead man after he ate the drugs in conjunction with the amount of disease process in his body, yes I do.
 
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