Derek Chauvin trial

#929
#929
PointGuard said:
Should a cop who thinks the grip of a taser is the same as the grip of her issued pistol serve on a police force?

Does she routinely have her taser where her pistol usually is on her uniform?

Let’s let the facts come out.

How many cars with white were pulled over that day for identical offenses?
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I agree. Let the facts come out. Google it and find out the number of white people pulled over for identical offenses, but that’s only a small part of the equation. Better question is how many of those knowingly had outstanding warrants and then chose to try to escape detainment, jump back into a car which is now a potential weapon, and drive off. The suspect created the chaos that ensued, there’s no escaping that fact. The cop screwed up and could likely get manslaughter of some degree. I suppose you’re looking for First or Second degree murder?? Are you wanting police to never again detain a POC even with outstanding warrants?
 
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I'm sick of this. I couldn't be an officer today. I'm not sure why anyone would. You are constantly forced into horrible situations by the worst of humanity.

Evidence produced so far says it was a horrible mistake, yet we have elected officials claiming murderous intent and being parroted by others here.

Sad all around. We'd rather pretend a violent felon was peacefully living his life and innocent here. He initiated these events. Play stupid games your only reward can be stupid prizes.

The officer should be held accountable and certainly never needs to wear a uniform again. But calling her a murderer is a real stretch. If that's the mentality we adopt we literally should just abolish all police and become some anarchist society where everyone is responsible for their personal safety and property.
 
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PointGuard said:
The tunes would change if it was black cops killing unarmed white people
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If it were a known white violent felon in this situation my opinion on the particulars of this case do not change. Tragic mistake initiated by the actions of an ignorant fool.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Not if they were also violent felons fighting or resisting arrest
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Therein lies one of the issues with you righties. Resisting arrest does not empower a rogue cop to be an instantaneous judge, jury and executioner for resisting arrest. The fact the dead person was a “violent felon” which fact comes out after the fact is still not an excuse to murder that person

You fools don’t want your guns to be taken away but a rogue cop can take away a human life and you’re ok with that. But you’re not racist. Right the racist are those accusing you all of being racist. Inverting definitions fools no one
 
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Vol737 said:
I agree. Let the facts come out. Google it and find out the number of white people pulled over for identical offenses, but that’s only a small part of the equation. Better question is how many of those knowingly had outstanding warrants and then chose to try to escape detainment, jump back into a car which is now a potential weapon, and drive off. The suspect created the chaos that ensued, there’s no escaping that fact. The cop screwed up and could likely get manslaughter of some degree. I suppose you’re looking for First or Second degree murder?? Are you wanting police to never again detain a POC even with outstanding warrants?
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“escaping detainment” would not result in a death sentence from a jury of his/her peers. A cop who acts as judge, jury and on the spot executes someone “escaping detainment” should be tried and if found guilty sentenced for that crime
 
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PointGuard said:
“escaping detainment” would not result in a death sentence from a jury of his/her peers. A cop who acts as judge, jury and on the spot executes someone “escaping detainment” should be tried and if found guilty sentenced for that crime
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The intent wasnt to shoot with a gun. You're not being honest with yourself.
 
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PointGuard said:
Therein lies one of the issues with you righties. Resisting arrest does not empower a rogue cop to be an instantaneous judge, jury and executioner for resisting arrest. The fact the dead person was a “violent felon” which fact comes out after the fact is still not an excuse to murder that person

You fools don’t want your guns to be taken away but a rogue cop can take away a human life and you’re ok with that. But you’re not racist. Right the racist are those accusing you all of being racist. Inverting definitions fools no one
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Of course it's not an excuse to kill them but it sure enhances their chances of coming out of the situation dead. All suspects would be well advised to cooperate with police. Both Wright and Floyd would still be alive today if they'd cooperated
 
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PointGuard said:
Therein lies one of the issues with you righties. Resisting arrest does not empower a rogue cop to be an instantaneous judge, jury and executioner for resisting arrest. The fact the dead person was a “violent felon” which fact comes out after the fact is still not an excuse to murder that person

You fools don’t want your guns to be taken away but a rogue cop can take away a human life and you’re ok with that. But you’re not racist. Right the racist are those accusing you all of being racist. Inverting definitions fools no one
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In the case of the recent shooting it was already established he was violent and a felon.
 
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PointGuard said:
“escaping detainment” would not result in a death sentence from a jury of his/her peers. A cop who acts as judge, jury and on the spot executes someone “escaping detainment” should be tried and if found guilty sentenced for that crime
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Okay, I don't disagree and the cop will be judged for their actions. I don't believe the intent was to act as judge and jury. Wright did not comply. Disagree?
tvolsfan said:
Yes. Unfortunately the fool was a cop.
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The cop apparently made an egregious mistake if in fact they thought they were reaching for their taser. Do you not concede at all that Wright created the situation by resisting and attempting to flee and that forced the situation to a chaotic next level?
 
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PointGuard said:
Should a cop who thinks the grip of a taser is the same as the grip of her issued pistol serve on a police force?
She was poorly trained one way or another, and made a split second decision without thinking, she likely didn't think at all and was scared and somehow made the mistake. She's not on the police force and her firing was appropriate. Doesn't mean she was wanting to kill a black guy just because, especially after watching her reaction on the video
Does she routinely have her taser where her pistol usually is on her uniform?
I don't know, this is a good question I.E. training
Let’s let the facts come out.
Ok, and you believe there are facts not said which proves she intentionally wanted to murder a black guy just because?
How many cars with white were pulled over that day for identical offenses?
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I am sure that white people were also pulled over for traffic stops as well. The question is how many had violent active warrants and tried to resist and fight from custody?
 
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PointGuard said:
Therein lies one of the issues with you righties. Resisting arrest does not empower a rogue cop to be an instantaneous judge, jury and executioner for resisting arrest. The fact the dead person was a “violent felon” which fact comes out after the fact is still not an excuse to murder that person

You fools don’t want your guns to be taken away but a rogue cop can take away a human life and you’re ok with that. But you’re not racist. Right the racist are those accusing you all of being racist. Inverting definitions fools no one
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These criminals aren't shot in a vacuum, if an officer KNOWS someone is a violent criminal with a history of robbery, domestic assault, running and waving guns at police and likely has a weapon AND that person punches and kicks them and tries to either escape or get back in the car for a possible gun, they will defend themselves. That's not "murder" or being an "executioner". It's like pulling someone over for speeding and that person gets out and starts shooting at police and gets killed, they didn't get "executed" for speeding.

Most logical thinking intelligent people understand this
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Daunte Wright shooting: Ex-Minnesota police officer Kim Potter to be charged with second-degree manslaughter

This is new breaking news ..... female cop shooter ^^^^^ her charges are as follows ......
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Any guess to how much time she serves?

The charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, according to The Associated Press. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune, KSTP and Minnesota Public Radio all reported Orput's expected charging announcement.
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My guess is less than 5
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
My point is that this is blown way out of proportion for the sake of racial division. Nothing more. Democrats and the race baiters are laughing their asses off at what's going on.
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I’m laughing my a$$ of at the predictable replies to my posts by the same predictable posters lol
 
#949
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KB5252 said:
I'm sick of this. I couldn't be an officer today. I'm not sure why anyone would. You are constantly forced into horrible situations by the worst of humanity.

Evidence produced so far says it was a horrible mistake, yet we have elected officials claiming murderous intent and being parroted by others here.

Sad all around. We'd rather pretend a violent felon was peacefully living his life and innocent here. He initiated these events. Play stupid games your only reward can be stupid prizes.

The officer should be held accountable and certainly never needs to wear a uniform again. But calling her a murderer is a real stretch. If that's the mentality we adopt we literally should just abolish all police and become some anarchist society where everyone is responsible for their personal safety and property.
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yea well not too many jobs where you can retire at age 50 with a pension so I think we'll be okay finding new officers

I'm more concerned about finding GOOD ones, cause obviously these officers in Minnesota were terrible at their jobs
 
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