Derek Chauvin trial

[BowlBrother85]

The Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been waging an intense 35 year competition to see who can get closest to the cameras in moments such as this... Al appears to be a little quicker these days. That weight loss has paid dividends, I guess.

 

[Orangeburst]

No s***

No **** to your no **** comment..jackass.

 

[Boston Vol]

The Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been waging an intense 35 year competition to see who can get closest to the cameras in moments such as this... Al appears to be a little quicker these days. That weight loss has paid dividends, I guess.

Benjamin Crump is giving them a run for their money these days.

 

[YankeeVol]

I see a lot of opinions here and I know I won't change anyone's mind. But try and think for a second. Say your closest loved one, whoever that might be, got into an altercation with a cop. Maybe they were rude, maybe they didn't comply, but something happened. The cop gets angry. He cuffs your loved one and puts them on the ground. After they are subdued the cop places their knee on that person's neck. (All while other cops stand around and guard).

Then as he applies more pressure your loved one is gasping for air. Your loved one screams out, "I can't breath" then dies right after. D

Do you feel the same? Do you blame your loved one? If you say yes I'll be honest you're a lot more callus than myself.

Today, imo, justice has been served and I have no doubt in that.

Is my loved one high on drugs?

 

[hUTch2002]

I see a lot of opinions here and I know I won't change anyone's mind. But try and think for a second. Say your closest loved one, whoever that might be, got into an altercation with a cop. Maybe they were rude, maybe they didn't comply, but something happened. The cop gets angry. He cuffs your loved one and puts them on the ground. After they are subdued the cop places their knee on that person's neck. (All while other cops stand around and guard).

Then as he applies more pressure your loved one is gasping for air. Your loved one screams out, "I can't breath" then dies right after. D

Do you feel the same? Do you blame your loved one? If you say yes I'll be honest you're a lot more callus than myself.

Today, imo, justice has been served and I have no doubt in that.

I get it. It sucks all the way around but given the same scenario with my loved one I wouldn’t say the cop was guilty of murder. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be angry and upset but if my loved one had heart disease, took a bunch of drugs, and then resisted I would agree that that person and the their health in some way contributed to the situation. Maybe I would say the cop should’ve known what was going on and acted so I could see manslaughter but being negligent and being intentional aren’t remotely the same.

 

[YankeeVol]

No **** to your no **** comment..jackass.

Water is wet is the point guy.

 

[RikidyBones]

Benjamin Crump is giving them a run for their money these days.

That dude is thirsty to be the new Al Sharpton.

 

[Weezer]

I mean for the love of Christ, Nancy Pelosi on the verdict:

So again, thank you George Floyd for sacrificing your life for justice. For being there to call out to your mom, how heartbreaking was that, call out for your mom, I can't breathe.”​

And that's the Speaker of the House. Politicians are idiots. I don't care if they're Republican or Democrat, politicians are idiots.

 

[Vol8188]

As he should be.

I’m curious if you’ve ever even heard the phrase “self defense” or are all white men just guilty?

He literally attempted to run from his attackers, was hit in the head with a skateboard, kicked in the head, etc.

I’ve never seen a better example of self defense in my life

 

[Rickyvol77]

Yes, random bystanders are who the police should listen to in such situations. That might be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen you post.

Its like listening to people who comment on Facebook

 

[hUTch2002]

One of his fellow policemen suggested he take his knee off his neck and Chauvin persisted. When Chauvin was later told that Floyd no longer had a pulse by his fellow policemen he still persisted.

Guess you missed that.

I actually did miss that but I’d have to see it in the context of everything. That still doesn’t equate to murder.

 

[Weezer]

Yes, random bystanders are who the police should listen to in such situations. That might be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen you post.

In this case, yes, they should have listened to the random bystanders. Floyd may not have been innocent, but he didn't deserve to die. Chauvin DID go too far. Like I said previously, if I understand the definition of the charge correctly, I actually agree with the third degree conviction.

Still not sure how it rises to the legal definition of second degree though.

 

[AirVol]

Y’all see Nancy look up to the heavens and thank George Floyd for dying? Sick m’fers.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So keeping a handcuffed man prone on the ground and holding a knee with half of your body weight on his neck for 9 minutes as he is pleading for his life and saying he couldn't breathe...thats not intentional harm?

No there wasn’t intentional harm. Stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Septic]

No there wasn’t intentional harm. Stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

LOL, the jury says different.

Mountain confirmed.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

 

[YankeeVol]

Not justice folks

 

[Weezer]

I see a lot of opinions here and I know I won't change anyone's mind. But try and think for a second. Say your closest loved one, whoever that might be, got into an altercation with a cop. Maybe they were rude, maybe they didn't comply, but something happened. The cop gets angry. He cuffs your loved one and puts them on the ground. After they are subdued the cop places their knee on that person's neck. (All while other cops stand around and guard).

Then as he applies more pressure your loved one is gasping for air. Your loved one screams out, "I can't breath" then dies right after. D

Do you feel the same? Do you blame your loved one? If you say yes I'll be honest you're a lot more callus than myself.

Today, imo, justice has been served and I have no doubt in that.

Floyd didn't deserve to die, but he's most likely still alive had he simply complied with the arrest and gotten in the back of the squad car rather than resisting it. If we're going to look at this logically, then let's look at it logically. It was a series of events in which George Floyd participated. Chauvin went too far, but it all began with the unlawful actions of Floyd. Floyd is not "innocent". Again, he didn't deserve to die, he should be alive, but not innocent.

 

[Ttucke11]

I’m curious if you’ve ever even heard the phrase “self defense” or are all white men just guilty?

He literally attempted to run from his attackers, was hit in the head with a skateboard, kicked in the head, etc.

I’ve never seen a better example of self defense in my life

All whites are guilty according to that clown.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[volinbham]

Not justice folks

FFS - she's a cartoon

 

[dovervolz]

All I need is toilet paper

Why? Because you’re full of ?

 

[Carl Pickens]

I wasn’t on the jury to hear everything presented.... and I’m not crying for Chauvin by any means...... but he was fried in the court of public opinion.

 

[hUTch2002]

In this case, yes, they should have listened to the random bystanders. Floyd may not have been innocent, but he didn't deserve to die. Chauvin DID go too far. Like I said previously, if I understand the definition of the charge correctly, I actually agree with the third degree conviction.

Still not sure how it rises to the legal definition of second degree though.

In hindsight of course but that’s not fair to say given the situation. How is a cop supposed to know when and when not to listen to bystanders who don’t know the whole situation? I believe 3rd degree fails because the act of restraint wasn’t one of eminent danger. That same position has been used many times without the same result so the move itself isn’t eminently dangerous and that would take 3rd degree off the table. With loose application, which was certainly used here, maybe you stretch your way to 3rd degree but apparently the law was even more loosely applied than that. Hell, what if murder 1 had been on the table? I’m sure they would’ve found some way to back into that too. When you have the POTUS and other politicians saying what the outcome should be then how could law be applied without prejudice?

 

[Weezer]

LOL, the jury says different.

Mountain confirmed.

The jury was probably scared shitless to come back with any verdict other than guilty. Again, I think Chauvin went too far(in case you haven't read that), but they were always going to find him guilty IMO. They're probably scared for their lives. Probably scared for their lives no matter which way they ruled, but they knew what the majority wanted. I'm not sure a "fair" trial was ever possible. At least not by jury.