Derek Chauvin trial

I had a friend make the point Floyd was incapacitated so it was excessive and could've raised to the level of assault because of it. I'm not sure the jurors were thinking that.
I get where they're coming from, but I think there is reasonable doubt on why that shouldn't stand.
 
The leftist commies are playing the long game to nationalize the police forces and your statement supports their efforts to replace the current personnel with ones loyal to their cause. Same thing is happening to the military.

Heard that from a few people and im starting to believe you're right......they are already implementing the national guard left and right and no one seems to be phased about it.
 
Everyone on the jury was scared to acquit.... regardless of the outcome
She has since deleted this but lol
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If you watched the trial you should not be shocked at the guilty verdict. The prosecution put on a convincing case. The defense did not. And for good reason. They had no credible defense to put on. The grasping of straws to create reasonable doubt flopped because of lack of credibility. Nelson seemed fairly inept but in fairness he really had nothing to work with. Chauvin is guilty. Period.

A unanimous verdict was reached as was required. 12 people found Chauvin guilty.

To claim the jury found Chauvin guilty out of fear of consequences of a “not guilty” verdict or the Judge was afraid implies you either didn’t watch the FACTS presented in the trial or your biases with respect to the law outweigh your ability to comprehend

I know nothing about 3 guilty verdicts under the MN laws. I do think it attests to the certainty of the opinions of 12 people
 
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I think he was guilty of manslaughter and should go to jail. I do believe that he didn’t intend to kill Floyd and it was an accident. I think the cop was guilty of being an A hole, power tripping and had no business being a police officer. All that being said I don’t think he should get 40 years in jail, 10 to 15 is more fitting for what he did. And Floyd certainly wasn’t no saint just a druggie deadbeat thug but certainly didn’t deserve to die.
 
You won’t hear me raising too much a ruckus either way. I believe he’s got to appeal all three counts separately and I don’t see how he over turns all three. The manslaughter should stick. I think either Harold Ford or Trey Gowdy that summed it up for me. The actions and force were justified until they went on too long and no longer were justified. I think that describes it well.

The irony is Mad Max may have assisted in undoing that which she claims she wanted so badly. But on second thought I believe winning on appeal fits her race warfare message better.
The second degree murder was the unintentional variety. I think there was sufficient evidence to support the verdict.

Best he gets out of Maxine is a second trial, but that’s probably a steep steep mountain to climb. Most states assume jurors followed the instructions without outside influence and have pretty strict rules that make it impossible to get around.

No idea if there were any other issues he can appeal.

PS - the judge not letting in the carbon monoxide evidence was probably the best hint of where this verdict was going. Judge not gonna rule against the side that’s clearly losing that late in the game unless they’re asking for a do-over.
 
Well we know what will happen going foward. The press and the fed will pressure any jury by threats if this happens agains. This should be appealed. Not saying the cop is innocent but the he shouldn't get what he got.
 
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Convict him of some lower charge. Check. Appeal gets a mistrial declared citing AntiFa Maxine and His Royal Highness King of the Insipid's comments. Errybody wins. Thugs can riot, and Cullers can keep her 4 houses.

She'll buy 4 more with all the donations She'll get next go around
 
You won’t hear me raising too much a ruckus either way. I believe he’s got to appeal all three counts separately and I don’t see how he over turns all three. The manslaughter should stick. I think either Harold Ford or Trey Gowdy that summed it up for me. The actions and force were justified until they went on too long and no longer were justified. I think that describes it well.

The irony is Mad Max may have assisted in undoing that which she claims she wanted so badly. But on second thought I believe winning on appeal fits her race warfare message better.

Also, I started looking up whether all three convictions stand (still unclear to me) but i saw nothing to indicate that the appeals are separate.
 
If you watched the trial you should not be shocked at the guilty verdict. The prosecution put on a convincing case. The defense did not. And for good reason. They had no credible defense to put on. The grasping of straws to create reasonable doubt flopped because of lack of credibility. Nelson seemed fairly inept but in fairness he really had nothing to work with. Chauvin is guilty. Period.

A unanimous verdict was reached as was required. 12 people found Chauvin guilty.

To claim the jury found Chauvin guilty out of fear of consequences of a “not guilty” verdict or the Judge was afraid implies you either didn’t watch the FACTS presented in the trial or your biases with respect to the law outweigh your ability to comprehend

I know nothing about 3 guilty verdicts under the MN laws. I do think it attests to the certainty of the opinions of 12 people
It's the second degree conviction that makes me believe you're wrong, and that the jury was afraid of finding him not guilty. Guilty of third degree and guilty of manslaughter, those make sense. I'm not convinced this satisfies the legal definition of second degree murder. But I do agree Chauvin is guilty of a crime.
 
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