Different camera angle on Pig Fumble. MUST SEE!

In those still frames, the white you see on his gloves are not his fingertips. You have to watch the whole video to see this. I agree with the poster above that the tv replay does create an illusion. I don't know if he had it or not, but I can clearly see how the argument can be made. Based on my review after at least 25 times, it appears that his left hand may be cupping the end of the ball. Then, and only then after reaching the plane, does his hand move down and the ball changes to a downward trajectory. If he had lost it at the one, then the ball would most likely not move down again unless he tipped it (which I guess is a theory).

But, people just see the immediate "loss" of the ball at the one and want to end the play. You have to watch the entire motion through the endzone, and you have to watch it a few times. Nothing will change the call, so using personal attacks is kind of ridiculous. Hopefully, we are all grown enough to have a meaningful discussion.
 
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Oh, you spoke to all of them, did you? Pffft. Typical Bamer. :loco:
 
In those still frames, the white you see on his gloves are not his fingertips. You have to watch the whole video to see this. I agree with the poster above that the tv replay does create an illusion. I don't know if he had it or not, but I can clearly see how the argument can be made. Based on my review after at least 25 times, it appears that his left hand may be cupping the end of the ball. Then, and only then after reaching the plane, does his hand move down and the ball changes to a downward trajectory. If he had lost it at the one, then the ball would most likely not move down again unless he tipped it (which I guess is a theory).

But, people just see the immediate "loss" of the ball at the one and want to end the play. You have to watch the entire motion through the endzone, and you have to watch it a few times. Nothing will change the call, so using personal attacks is kind of ridiculous. Hopefully, we are all grown enough to have a meaningful discussion.


This is the last place that's gonna happen, unfortunately.
 
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What's done is done most just want to move on......... Still done make it right!!!!!! BTW, your bama azz opinion don't mean shi!! to me or most of them either.......
Go ahead and say it bamaboy, baaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa
 
What's done is done most just want to move on......... Still done make it right!!!!!! BTW, your bama azz opinion don't mean shi!! to me or most of them either.......
Go ahead and say it bamaboy, baaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa

^Out of bullets, tries to throw gun, hits himself in the forehead.
 
No I've got plenty, sharpshooter marksman, and defiantly not a follower like you....

You're right. I'm a "follower" because I think Howard fumbled. You, along with 30% of VN, are part of the righteous minority that knows the truth and refuses to follow the pack. There is absolutely no way that your pack could be so small because it's pretty freakin' obvious that Howard fumbled. No! It's because you are some poor man's illuminati.
 
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You're right. I'm a "follower" because I think Howard fumbled. You, along with 30% of VN, are part of the righteous minority that knows the truth and refuses to follow the pack. There is absolutely no way that your pack could be so small because it's pretty freakin' obvious that Howard fumbled. No! It's because you are some poor man's illuminati.

Yea that's right!! You follow the majority which isn't always right.... I know this also........ You are puckering up because you know what's around the corner...... Butch Jones is turning this program around and The Big Orange coming after that azz!!
 
Yea that's right!! You follow the majority which isn't always right.... I know this also........ You are puckering up because you know what's around the corner...... Butch Jones is turning this program around and The Big Orange coming after that azz!!

What is with your weird use of bold text?

Am I supposed to think you're yelling?

Or are you doing it so that everyone knows you're being super cereal?
 
What is with your weird use of bold text?

Am I supposed to think you're yelling?

Or are you doing it so that everyone knows you're being super cereal?

No not weird.......

No not yelling.......

Yea, yea that's it bammaboy....... You got me.....
 
You're right. I'm a "follower" because I think Howard fumbled. You, along with 30% of VN, are part of the righteous minority that knows the truth and refuses to follow the pack. There is absolutely no way that your pack could be so small because it's pretty freakin' obvious that Howard fumbled. No! It's because you are some poor man's illuminati.

You know when you're in pack and the dog in front of you stops you know where your nose ends up?
 
Cute.

You know when you're wrong about something, and no matter how many times you're proven wrong you refuse to accept reality?

The reality is you ate jealous of all the attention the Vols are getting. The Bama boards are calling. Move along now.
 
What you keep ignoring ave the grip you keep comparing it to in those pics. He clearly doesn't have the same firm grip you keep acting like he does.

have you watched the goal line footage ? He has a grip on the ball , the ball travels with his hand. He releases his grip , you can see 4 fingers and thumb open. The ball falls almost straight down . At this point the ball is well over the goal line. He had control as the ball passed over the goal.

How would this not be a grip or fit the definition of control ? How would this be considered indisputable evidence to overturn a play on the field ?
 
have you watched the goal line footage ? He has a grip on the ball , the ball travels with his hand. He releases his grip , you can see 4 fingers and thumb open. The ball falls almost straight down . At this point the ball is well over the goal line. He had control as the ball passed over the goal.

None of what you just described actually happened.
 
I were watching the game in Hi Def on CBS. I'm guessing that you've seen nothing other than the GIFs posted on this message board.

Nah, guess my 42 inch plasma, is just not as good as yours or the other poster that had to mention his 44 inch Hi Def!
 
Are you serious? Please tell me that was just awkward sarcasm.

Slightly on that but not about you heading back to elephant turd land. How does it feel to hang out with folks that really could care less if you're around? (Rhetorical)
 
Nah, guess my 42 inch plasma, is just not as good as yours or the other poster that had to mention his 44 inch Hi Def!

Then we were watching the same thing. But I saw what the rest of the world saw, while you've desperately tried to convince yourself of something that didn't happen because it makes you feel better about the result. I understand.
 

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