Discussion of gay rights, religion, abortion...oh yeah, and Pete Rose

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#351
tnvolsfan85 said:
Really? So when the parents hear the heart beat of the baby it's not alive?
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By my definition of life, no. yes it has a heartbeat, and can distribute blood to it's body, but it can not survive as it's own individual being.

If that were the case, we'd all be a year older than we are, because our birthday would be the same day as our conception.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Wow, you are amazing!

:hi:

Even though you are a hippie lovin' government spendin' tax hike lovin' piece of garbage!
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I have changed my views on some things. I don't know a lot about politics like some of you guys, I'm still forming opinions on things. I've learned a lot on here actually. I did say a lot of stuff a year or so ago but I really didn't know much of what I was talking about.
 
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droski said:
so if i get hit by a car and can only survive temporarily by being on a resporator than i am really not alive?
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Yes, because you are capable of surviving without the support of another living creature. I'm talking strictly about a fetus here. Being struck by a vehicle and beingplaced on life support is irrelevent, because you were independently surviving before the incident.
 
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#356
vader said:
:hi:
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#357
Volingatorland said:
By my definition of life, no. yes it has a heartbeat, and can distribute blood to it's body, but it can not survive as it's own individual being.

If that were the case, we'd all be a year older than we are, because our birthday would be the same day as our conception.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree here! :)
 
#358
#358
Volingatorland said:
I thought he was?

Isn't Mark McGwire?

The message that sends is "I can pump roids to hit 75 home runs, but I can't place a little of my hard earned money on the team I'm playing against."

So gambling is a greater vice than drug use?
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I think he crossed a line when he placed bets on games he was involved with.

That said, I would put him on the ballot.
 
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615 Vol said:
I have changed my views on some things. I don't know a lot about politics like some of you guys, I'm still forming opinions on things. I've learned a lot on here actually. I did say a lot of stuff a year or so ago but I really didn't know much of what I was talking about.
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Don't say stuff like that, it makes me cry...

:cray:
 
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#366
Here's another topic if someone wants to throw their 2 cents in:

Lesbian couple wants to have a kid. They get the sperm of the man. Do you think it's right for the couple to bar the man from seeing the child. I know things can be worked out where that won't happen, but me and my lesbian friend had a hardcore discussion one night over this.

She said, personally, she wouldn't want the daddy around or the kid to even know who the daddy is, because she would want to raise it their way. While I said why the hell would you want the sperm of some guy that would agree to a union like that. It went back and forth pretty good.

I guess we'd need a lesbian here for this to work, but just another topic thrown out since this is the THREAD OF ALL THREADS
 
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#368
I also must say I can't wait to see what 3rd rate blog and Hank Williams Jr. song gsvol quotes in this thread to prove his point about something.
 
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#372
Business said:
I also must say I can't wait to see what 3rd rate blog and Hank Williams Jr. song gsvol quotes in this thread to prove his point about something.
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he has been on. apparently he hasn't done enough research yet to contribute.
 
#374
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Business said:
Here's another topic if someone wants to throw their 2 cents in:

Lesbian couple wants to have a kid. They get the sperm of the man. Do you think it's right for the couple to bar the man from seeing the child. I know things can be worked out where that won't happen, but me and my lesbian friend had a hardcore discussion one night over this.

She said, personally, she wouldn't want the daddy around or the kid to even know who the daddy is, because she would want to raise it their way. While I said why the hell would you want the sperm of some guy that would agree to a union like that. It went back and forth pretty good.

I guess we'd need a lesbian here for this to work, but just another topic thrown out since this is the THREAD OF ALL THREADS
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My wife and I have two lesbian friends who are foster caring two young boys. One is 3.5 and the other is 14 months.

Their mother and father are worthless but the state is considering giving them back to their parents because they completed government rehab.

The parents have petitioned three times to get their kids back and the court has ruled in favor of the lesbian couple and they have appealed. This will be their final appeal.

The kids going back to parents is wrong and utterly sick in my mind because the two boys will not have a chance to make it in life.
 
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#375
tnvolsfan85 said:
We are going to have to agree to disagree here! :)
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Yes we are, although I am not a fan of that statement.

This is a topic that will never be resolved, because people are affirmed in their beliefs, and that is probably the most difficult thing to change.

Frankly, you will believe what you do and I will believe what I do.

The same reason this doesn't change IRL.
 
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