Disrespect. Respect Earned. Motivation. We should be in Knoxville.

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Golfprovol said:
Because ND did not lose 2 games and we did. Not being held over our heads, it is a fact. We did lose 2 games and one was to Arkansas a 6-6 team. Northern Illinois is 7-5.
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Our other loss was to the SEC champion, again on the road at night. And let's not act like Northern Illinois and Arky are similar. Northern Illinois has losses to Buffalo, NC State (we beat), Toledo, Ball State, and Miami Ohio. You cannot tell me the two are comparable.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
I said we may not be in next year. Don't feel good about the Florida and Bama game on the road and we always seem to lose to someone we shouldn't
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That is exactly our M.O. for now. Always lose in the Swamp. Same with Alabummer on the road. Still haven’t figured out how to beat Georgia. AND we always find at least one inferior opponent to lose to.

Only one way to change that.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Our other loss was to the SEC champion, again on the road at night. And let's not act like Northern Illinois and Arky are similar. Northern Illinois has losses to Buffalo, NC State (we beat), Toledo, Ball State, and Miami Ohio. You cannot tell me the two are comparable.
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You are telling me that 1 loss is comparable to 2 losses?
 
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adam.vol said:
Their votes amount to nothing more than personal opinions. This is nothing but bias.

The committee has yet to prove that they stick to a criteria. This year’s committee has ignored precedent from committees of prior years. They haven’t stuck to their decisions from previous weeks.

The kindest description I can think to give this playoff committee is “whimsical”. In sincerity, I believe the whole group to be without morals for what they have done with strength of schedules, as well as the complete disregard for player talent in the “eye test” that I hear spoken of so frequently.
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Your "eye test" would be the subjective part. Comparing this years rules to last years is absurd. Rules are different, number of teams are different....

Do you think we would pass the "eye test"? If they used that as a major criteria, we would be out. We are 1-1 against teams ranked in the final poll. We didn't hammer any SEC team and didn't score in the first half for 3 straight games.

What decisions from previous weeks did they not stick to? Examples?

You say they have no morals, that is a pretty bold statement without having met any of them.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Our other loss was to the SEC champion, again on the road at night. And let's not act like Northern Illinois and Arky are similar. Northern Illinois has losses to Buffalo, NC State (we beat), Toledo, Ball State, and Miami Ohio. You cannot tell me the two are comparable.
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Not too sure "at night" means much. If our teams can't play at night then we have more issues than the #9 seed
 
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Golfprovol said:
You are telling me that 1 loss is comparable to 2 losses?
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No. I'm saying ND has the worst loss of anyone in the playoffs and they are hosting a game. SoS doesn't matter, we might be better off leaving the SEC and scheduling 12 cupcakes.
 
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We very easily could have lost at home in OT to a bad UF team that had to rally late to make a bowl game. I feel very fortunate that this team did just enough and took care of business to even get us in this thing. Anything more is a huge bonus.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
No. I'm saying ND has the worst loss of anyone in the playoffs and they are hosting a game. SoS doesn't matter, we might be better off leaving the SEC and scheduling 12 cupcakes.
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Suggesting to leave the SEC is almost the dumbest thing I have ever read on here. I bet you have the thought that we get recruits over west coast schools because we are in the SEC.

They may have the worst loss but they still only have 1 loss, so how does that show bias against us?
 
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Golfprovol said:
Your "eye test" would be the subjective part. Comparing this years rules to last years is absurd. Rules are different, number of teams are different....

Do you think we would pass the "eye test"? If they used that as a major criteria, we would be out. We are 1-1 against teams ranked in the final poll. We didn't hammer any SEC team and didn't score in the first half for 3 straight games.

What decisions from previous weeks did they not stick to? Examples?

You say they have no morals, that is a pretty bold statement without having met any of them.
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Which committee rules are different this year? Please show me. Why is comparing playoffs from this year to last year absurd, in your mind? Is this not the same sport and the same participating organizations? I cannot see any difference besides format.

How can you convince anyone TN would be out by comparing our results to teams ranked in the final poll? TN is one of 4 playoff teams who have bested another team ranked inside of the top 12. The Vols have a top 5 defense in both points allowed and yards allowed. What is an “eye test” in your mind? I need some explanation for that loose theory.

Clemson lost to South Carolina and Georgia before beating SMU at neutral site. Alabama beat both South Carolina and Georgia. The best comparison that anyone has to use between SMU and Alabama is 100% in favor of Alabama.

-Why was SMU dropped, yet just enough to stay ahead of Alabama?
-Why was Alabama ahead of Tennessee when they had lost to TN and they were each 2 loss teams?
- Why is Ohio State behind Penn State when Ohio State beat Penn State and they each have 2 losses?
- Why was Ohio State left ahead of Tennessee when Tennessee now has the higher Strength of Record and Strength of Schedule?
- Why is Texas ahead of Ohio State and Tennessee when they have zero wins against ranked teams? All three have two losses.
- How did Notre Dame prove that they belong among the top 12 when their best victory was against the 22nd ranked team?

None of this follows logic.

Bold? OK, sure.. The committee doesn’t have to be careful with their reasons, but I have to be careful with my condemnation of them.. I have no reason for holding reserve when speaking about a committee led by an AD who attempted to retain the head coach who was the center of the biggest College Football cheating scandal to date in this century. You defending this charade is the only stretch of imagination from where I sit.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Suggesting to leave the SEC is almost the dumbest thing I have ever read on here. I bet you have the thought that we get recruits over west coast schools because we are in the SEC.

They may have the worst loss but they still only have 1 loss, so how does that show bias against us?
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Notre Dame has nothing to sell but tradition. Why can't we? We have a better stadium and better town.
 
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Because this year has 12 teams, byes for conference champions and last years didn't. This year there are more teams in each conference and fewer major conferences. This year goes by how the committee ranks the teams 1-12 and then seeds them based off all the rules. Last year Arizona State would have had zero chance because of ranking but this year they won their conference so they get in.

We dominated no one, we didn't score in the first half of 3 straight games, and at times looks terrible on offense. Can you actually say that we looked like a top team in the country all year?

Transitive property doesn't work in football or real life for that matter. Alabama lost to OU, US, and Vandy, SMU only has 2 losses and one of those being a conference championship game, in which Alabama didn't participate in one.

-Because they have 1 fewer loss
-Alabama has a better win beating UGA, remember we only beat 1 team that finished in the top 25
-because OSU lost their last game to a 6-6 team
-OSU is 2-1 against teams finishing in the last poll, we were 1-1
-ND only has 1 loss, can only play the teams on your schedule

Comparing the committee reasons for ranking teams to your assessment they have no morals is absurb as well. You holding reserve about someone morals until you actually have information about their morals, know them, or have proof of them being immoral is just the right and godly thing to do.

Saying a sign stealing scam is worse than raping kids shows a lot about you.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Not sure what that has to do with the OP's complaint. Ohio State also lost 2 games.

For that matter, Texas lost two. Penn State lost two. Georgia lost 2.

Are you trying to say 2-loss teams should not host a first round game, and just be glad they made the playoffs at all? I think 8 of the 12 playoff teams lost 2 (or 3) games.

Note, I'm not with the OP, complaining. I'm good with our (very challenging) path to a national title. Just saying, you didn't do anything to invalidate his point.

Go Vols!
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I think he's saying when you lose 2 games, there is going to be some inherent subjectivity involved in distinguishing between them. There are some 2 loss teams not in the playoff.
 
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The resumes aren't even close. The "ESPN hates us" has turned into "everything that isn't going our way or praise means everyone hates us and is out to get us."
 
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WhenUrVolUrVFL said:
We should be hosting a game in Knoxville against Ohio State. We got absolutely disrespected. This should motivate Tennessee to crush Ohio state. If I’m Heupel I’m making it known to the team the disrespect our university received. And it’s time to make them pay for that disrespect, don’t even make this game close. Just beat the ever loving **** out of this team. Hit them hard, make them feel it. Make them feel the disrespect.
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How is it disrespect? They lost by 1 pm to the best and #1 team in the country and lost a 7-5 Michigan. Penn St is their best win, who is a 6 seed in the CFP. We lost by 14 to the #2 seed. Lost by 5 to a 6-6 Arkansas and our best win is Alabama, who didn't make the CFP. Not sure how we're being disrespected.
 
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WhenUrVolUrVFL said:
We had the same record as Ohio State navigating an SEC schedule. If you can’t see the disrespect there that we’re an SEC school with the same record as a big ten school that just lost to a 6-5 Michigan team they were a 3 score favorite—AT HOME—and can’t see the disrespect—you’re not intelligent or paying attention.
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They lost to 2 better teams and both games were close. One of ours was not and they have a better win than us. They beat #6 in the CFP, we beat a team that didn't make the CFP. Think you're the one dumb enough to not understand this.
 
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WhenUrVolUrVFL said:
We had the same record as Ohio State navigating an SEC schedule. If you can’t see the disrespect there that we’re an SEC school with the same record as a big ten school that just lost to a 6-5 Michigan team they were a 3 score favorite—AT HOME—and can’t see the disrespect—you’re not intelligent or paying attention.
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We were an 11 point favorite when we lost to Arkansas. We get what we get. Win the games and don't whine.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Ohio State beat PSU and Indiana and barely lost to undefeated Oregon. Their egg was Michigan and ours was Arkansas. Their resume is better to host. Our best win was Bama and second best win was Florida. I'm not sure why so many are griping. Im thrilled. Let's go!
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Florida stomps Indiana especially if they played now. Their egg was at home a week or two ago. The Vols egg was on the road months ago with a freshman QB making his 1st SEC road start. Yes the Vols lost to the SEC champion but GA probably eats the ducks alive. We will see how it plays out but their resume nor pedo states is better than the vols and the numbers have shown it. The only reason Indiana is still even in the playoffs was undoubtedly to boost the other 2-3 big10s resumes.
 
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Volwonder1 said:
Florida stomps Indiana especially if they played now. Their egg was at home a week or two ago. The Vols egg was on the road months ago with a freshman QB making his 1st SEC road start. Yes the Vols lost to the SEC champion but GA probably eats the ducks alive. We will see how it plays out but their resume nor pedo states is better than the vols and the numbers have shown it. The only reason Indiana is still even in the playoffs was undoubtedly to boost the other 2-3 big10s resumes.
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I was talking about OSU. OSU's resume on paper was better than UT's as far as hosting the game. You can argue that team A would beat team B all day long and that Indiana is over rated(they are), but they look at on paper.
 
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Golfprovol said:
I am sorry you dont understand how the seeding works.
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  • 12 teams will be selected to the Playoff field, with the five highest-ranked conference champions earning automatic bids
  • The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded 1-4 and each will receive a first-round bye
  • Teams seeded 5-12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team
My suggestion adheres to that, does it not?
 
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