Do you know what I find peculiar?

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Lofton4Three said:
I stated that there were people that act like UT had no history before Bruce stepped foot here. Those people, like you, are full of **** and serve no purpose in life. All while giving him credit for taking us to where we have never been.
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tell me more about Tennessee's pristine basketball history. full of legends and final 4's.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
What does it matter if they like Pearl or not, as long as they support the program. The program is what people cheer for and not a single individual. One person is not bigger than a basketball program, no matter how hard anyone tries to argue that. UT basketball was around(and making sweet 16's) long before Pearl, and probably will be doing the same after Pearl leaves. Getting attached to a single coach is just a repeat of the Lane Kiffin debacle


Thats really the whole point. If you like tennessee basketball than you should like bruce pearl. You support the program and want them to win and now Bruce pearl wins at a higher level than anyone ever has and you still dont like him. Once again 2 sweet 16 ever before pearl. Thats not good that TERRIBLE, PATHETIC
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You could save yourself a lot of typing by utilizing the quote button.
 
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bam15 said:
How comical.

The same individuals who defend Pearl's impressive resume quickly move to defame Tennessee's tradition.

Yep, enjoy Pearl's next gig.
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Give me a history lesson, I'll admit I haven't read up on my UT basketball history. I know of Mears, but was there any period in UT basketball where it was more successful than it is under Pearl? I don't believe Pearl created UT basketball by any means, but he's raised the bar.
 
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chavisut said:
What tradition? Was there any period in UT basketball where it was more successful than it is under Pearl? I don't believe Pearl created UT basketball by any means, but he's raised the bar.
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There is a distinct difference between raising the bar and erasing multiple years of history.
 
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chavisut said:
Give me a history lesson, I'll admit I haven't read up on my UT basketball history. I know of Mears, but was there any period in UT basketball where it was more successful than it is under Pearl? I don't believe Pearl created UT basketball by any means, but he's raised the bar.
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I have no problem with that statement. I do have a problem with people belittling everyone that had anything to do with UT basketball before Pearl arrived.
 
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IPorange said:
I was born in 1984, dude. I have an autographed picture of KO, and was one of practically a dozen students to attend basketball games at the end of the Buzz era. A lot of things happened in this world before you (or me) were born. One of them was basketball. If Pearl has been successful before this year, so have other Tennessee teams by the same standard. Even if they hadn't been, we shouldn't slander our past.
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Did you read my post? I clearly stated that we had been rolling the ball out there for 100 years, which by my count 100>27 so yes, you're obviously correct. UT basketball was around BEFORE I was born.

I also said that I have suffered through the majority of MY life with uninspired, underachieving, and boring basketball. If you feel that is SLANDER in some way, I would like for you to present the arguments against it.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The issue in this debate isn't hard to follow. I don't like stupidity. To act as if Tennessee was The Citadel before Pearl arrived is beyond stupid. If people don't know anything about a given history, it strikes me as reasonable that they wouldn't comment on it.
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I think most people under 40 are as happy with the program as they have ever been.

So, it offends you that people don't have a better understanding of Tennessee history and aren't thrilled with the past 30 years of basketball -- and in turn that's Pearl's fault?

Why not educate people instead? I'll start.

Justus was a great player from what I've read. I never saw him play, it was before my time as it was yours. But I can certainly appreciate what he accomplished on the court. Mears coached some really good teams and the three years that Justus played were certainly solid.

For everyone's benefit, I looked up the Tennessee's record during Justus' career.

1966 21-7
1967 20-6
1968 21-7

Very impressive indeed.
 
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Freak said:
I think most people under 40 are as happy with the program as they have ever been.

So, it offends you that people don't have a better understanding of Tennessee history and aren't thrilled with the past 30 years of basketball -- and in turn that's Pearl's fault?

Why not educate people instead? I'll start.

Justus was a great player from what I've read. I never saw him play, it was before my time as it was yours. But I can certainly appreciate what he accomplished on the court. Mears coached some really good teams and the three years that Justus played were certainly solid.

For everyone's benefit, I looked up the Tennessee's record during Justus' career.

1966 21-7
1967 20-6
1968 21-7

Very impressive indeed.
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Hark! There indeed WAS basketball history before Pearl. I'll alert the media.
 
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IPorange said:
I have no problem with that statement. I do have a problem with people belittling everyone that had anything to do with UT basketball before Pearl arrived.
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Can you give some specific examples of this? I haven't seen this and I'd be interested to read exactly what people were belittling.
 
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Freak said:
I think most people under 40 are as happy with the program as they have ever been.

So, it offends you that people don't have a better understanding of Tennessee history and aren't thrilled with the past 30 years of basketball -- and in turn that's Pearl's fault?

Why not educate people instead? I'll start.

Justus was a great player from what I've read. I never saw him play, it was before my time as it was yours. But I can certainly appreciate what he accomplished on the court. Mears coached some really good teams and the three years that Justus played were certainly solid.

For everyone's benefit, I looked up the Tennessee's record during Justus' career.

1966 21-7
1967 20-6
1968 21-7

Very impressive indeed.
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Where did I say people should be happy with Tennessee's results between '85 and '05? Where did I say people's historical ignornace was Pearl's fault?
 
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Freak said:
Can you give some specific examples of this? I haven't seen this and I'd be interested to read exactly what people were belittling.
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See toxicdonut's posts. Referring to UT's history as a "----ing joke" is belittling it.

And he's not the only one.
 
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What's happening is this:

The people that absolutely love Pearl are saying that he essentially created basketball at UT...which is obviously wrong.

The people that are responding to that are, for some reason, dissing Pearl of his accomplishments while praising UT's history...which is wrong and is sparking these kinds of arguments in every damn basketball thread.

I find it extremely annoying that these kinds of arguments come up in pretty much every basketball thread I open these days.

The bottom line is this: Tennessee has had a good basketball history, not a great one. It's hard to argue how great UT's history has been when we haven't reached an Elite 8 before this year. Of course, there are other factors to base a program's success on, but in the end day, college basketball is a post-season sport. In addition to having a good basketball history, Pearl has revived the program in a very big way over the last five years. There is absolutely no arguing that. I can see an argument for why he still isn't the best coach in UT history, but that argument can go both ways.
 
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IPorange said:
See toxicdonut's posts. Referring to UT's history as a "----ing joke" is belittling it.

And he's not the only one.
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as opposed to acting like our history is anything other than dime-a-dozen basketball history at multiple other schools.
 
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So i guess if you think tennessee basketball was so good from 1908-2004 you should be thrilled about the last 5 years right?
 
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IPorange said:
See toxicdonut's posts. Referring to UT's history as a "----ing joke" is belittling it.

And he's not the only one.
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Now tell me, do you somehow considered it "belittling" to UT history by saying that UT basketball was a generally poor experience for the past 25 years before Pearl arrived?
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
So i guess if you think tennessee basketball was so good from 1908-2004 you should be thrilled about the last 5 years right?
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Why is this an "either/or" deal? Why can't I be thankful for the tradition and history we have, which IS richer than many other schools even if it isn't elite, and still enjoy our current upswing of success?
 
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