Donald Trump goes off

#76
#76
dduncan4163 said:
The Paradox of Birtherism.

Obama could go on tv tomorrow and show his original Birth Certificate and it wouldn't matter. Birthers would say that it is a Forgery.

He could then have professionals from around the world analyze, and testify to the authenticity of the paper to Congress, and the Birthers would say they are in on the lie.

That is the beauty of a good Conspiracy Theory. It can never been fully disproven therefore debate with a True Believer is meaningless. They want to believe it so bad that they will not be swayed by any debate. They have closed their mind off to any reasoning on the issue.

Plus it gives the believer a sense of Comfort and Self Importance to know that they have a discovered a secret that The "Dark Powers" that be want us to remain Ignorant too.

Conspiracy Theories are like a Drug to the Easily Manipulated, and people like Trump and Beck have huge Conspiracy Cartels.
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Getting a little cavalier presenting hypotheticals as reality there. I'm not on the foreign birth bandwagon, but the lengths Obama has gone to in order to conceal this raise questions. Personally, I think there's something else on the certificate he'd prefer to keep secret.
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kptvol said:
Getting a little cavalier presenting hypotheticals as reality there. I'm not on the foreign birth bandwagon, but the lengths Obama has gone to in order to conceal this raise questions. Personally, I think there's something else on the certificate he'd prefer to keep secret.
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Maybe it shows he was born in another galaxy far, far away.
 
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#78
kptvol said:
Getting a little cavalier presenting hypotheticals as reality there. I'm not on the foreign birth bandwagon, but the lengths Obama has gone to in order to conceal this raise questions. Personally, I think there's something else on the certificate he'd prefer to keep secret.
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Oh, this is gonna be rich. What's on the certificate that he wants to hide?
 
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kptvol said:
Getting a little cavalier presenting hypotheticals as reality there. I'm not on the foreign birth bandwagon, but the lengths Obama has gone to in order to conceal this raise questions. Personally, I think there's something else on the certificate he'd prefer to keep secret.
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He hasn't concealed anything. You are just making that up.

Here is recent confirmation from GOP-appointed head of this that birth certificate is real and the whole thing is nonsense, noting that Obama's computer generated short form is what everyone gets when asking for a copy of their birth certificate, that releasing the long form would just cause people to make up claims that it was faked, and how do you explain newspapers announcing his birth there?

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

It's just stupid.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He hasn't concealed anything. You are just making that up.

Here is recent confirmation from GOP-appointed head of this that birth certificate is real and the whole thing is nonsense, noting that Obama's computer generated short form is what everyone gets when asking for a copy of their birth certificate, that releasing the long form would just cause people to make up claims that it was faked, and how do you explain newspapers announcing his birth there?

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

It's just stupid.
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yes releasing the real version would certainly not help anything. are you serious?
 
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utvolpj said:
my birth was announced in Memphis but I was born in GA. I guess my parents are magicians
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Funny, mine are too. My sister was born in Guangzhou, China. Five months later, we adopted her. Her Certificate of Live Birth says her birthplace is Amarillo, TX.
 
#90
#90
His grandma says he wasn't born here but newspaper says he was. He spends a couple mil to keep records safe. Nope he is free and clear, no reason to question him. An honest man has nothing to hide.
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droski said:
yes releasing the real version would certainly not help anything. are you serious?
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It is 100 pct true that providing people with the original long form will not satisfy the birthers because their worry over this is totally feigned. They won't accept it because they don't want to, pure and simple.
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lawgator1 said:
It is 100 pct true that providing people with the original long form will not satisfy the birthers because their worry over this is totally feigned. They won't accept it because they don't want to, pure and simple.
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are you seriously arguing you don't see what the fuss is about? nothing strange at all with the situation?
 
#94
#94
How many have had family members say that they were not born here, thus, causing speculation?
 
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#95
Politically, it seems that producing the BC would be the smart move. Shuts people up and for those that still don't believe it they are shunned even more.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is 100 pct true that providing people with the original long form will not satisfy the birthers because their worry over this is totally feigned. They won't accept it because they don't want to, pure and simple.
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The knower of others' thoughts has once again spoken.
 
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#97
volinbham said:
Politically, it seems that producing the BC would be the smart move. Shuts people up and for those that still don't believe it they are shunned even more.
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Or, like the preacher in Gainesville, we could just go ahead and collectively agree to ignore the loons.
 
#98
#98
so it's your opinion that obama isn't releasing a $50 piece of paper just because he doesn't want to pander to the loons? isn't not releasing it pandering to the loons? would this pass your bs test if i changed obama to george bush?
 
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