Don't know if true but I'm not happy...(Memphis St series)

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MemphisCanes said:
Calhoun missed 2 years ago, and then won an NC. So what? Dixon is and always will be a mediocre coach. JT3 does just enough to keep the GTown alumnus interested.

Memphis sin't going to settle for intersparsed tournament appearances. If it turns out Pastner can't get more than that done, we'll find someone who can.
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those 2 guys have managed to do something pastner hasnt, win their conference. oh and make it out of the 1st round of the ncaa tournament.

and thats the big east not the c-usa joke memphis called a conference, yet couldnt even win it. pathetic.

i dont get how you can even defend this guys coaching ability, what has he done?

in 3 years he isnt even going to have won that conference. 1st year makes nit, 2nd year is a 12 seed and finishes 4th in conference, and this year will be lucky to make it in as a 9-12 seed. with the talent he has there that is absolutely pathetic.
 
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#152
#152
News break Memphis fell into the Mississippi River.The Big East will humble them probably help us more they won't have all these patsys to build there w's
 
#154
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bleedingTNorange said:
etsu, morgan state, montana, wofford, cornell, vermont, north texas, oakland, murray state, utep, lehigh, uc santa barbara, ohio, houston, new mexico state, n iowa, winthrop, robert morris, sam houston state, siena, arkansas pine-bluff, utah state, old dominion, saint marys.

that would be 25 teams less talented than memphis that year that made the tourney, even though you only asked for 20.
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At large teams, plz. There's always going to be a winner from the SWAC, NEC, etc.
 
#155
#155
bleedingTNorange said:
those 2 guys have managed to do something pastner hasnt, win their conference. oh and make it out of the 1st round of the ncaa tournament.

and thats the big east not the c-usa joke memphis called a conference, yet couldnt even win it. pathetic.

i dont get how you can even defend this guys coaching ability, what has he done?

in 3 years he isnt even going to have won that conference. 1st year makes nit, 2nd year is a 12 seed and finishes 4th in conference, and this year will be lucky to make it in as a 9-12 seed. with the talent he has there that is absolutely pathetic.
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I've not "defended Pastner's coaching ability" once. And he's winning his conference in his third year, something Martin won't do in his third. What has Martin done to make you guys excited about him? Fair question, right?

You seem to be the only one that thinks he'll be "lucky to get a 9-12 seed". I've reviewed Memphis' resume. Pretty solid.
 
#156
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MemphisCanes said:
At large teams, plz. There's always going to be a winner from the SWAC, NEC, etc.
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here's my original quote, i never said at large teams:"his goes back to me saying pastner didnt make the tourney his first year because his roster was depleted. im sorry but if you have 5 guys on your roster that are invited to work out for nba teams, thats not depleted. i guarantee i can go back to that tournament and name 20 teams that didnt have the talent that memphis did."

memphis couldnt win c-usa, what makes you think theyre better than half these other automatic qualifiers? as i said i could name 20 teams that made the ncaa tourney that were less talented, and i did.
 
#157
#157
MemphisCanes said:
I've not "defended Pastner's coaching ability" once. And he's winning his conference in his third year, something Martin won't do in his third. What has Martin done to make you guys excited about him? Fair question, right?

You seem to be the only one that thinks he'll be "lucky to get a 9-12 seed". I've reviewed Memphis' resume. Pretty solid.
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you think he's winning his conference his 3rd year, right now he's tied for 1st. how do you know martin wont win it his 3rd year, i guarantee if we played in a joke of a conference he would. im willing to bet in 5 years pastner will have never won the big east either.

uhm martin in his 1st year has exceeded expectations. im pretty sure pastners expectations were atleast a ncaa tournament appearance and c-usa title. memphis had won the c-usa title the previous 4 years, pretty sure thats an expectation when you take the job.
 
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#158
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bleedingTNorange said:
here's my original quote, i never said at large teams:"his goes back to me saying pastner didnt make the tourney his first year because his roster was depleted. im sorry but if you have 5 guys on your roster that are invited to work out for nba teams, thats not depleted. i guarantee i can go back to that tournament and name 20 teams that didnt have the talent that memphis did."

memphis couldnt win c-usa, what makes you think theyre better than half these other automatic qualifiers? as i said i could name 20 teams that made the ncaa tourney that were less talented, and i did.
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I'm literally speechless at how stupid that is.
 
#159
#159
MemphisCanes said:
I'm literally speechless at how stupid that is.
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you're the one that then asked me to name them. the simpler point is this, memphis was more talented than utep, but utep won c-usa, inexcusable.

memphis: 5 4 4 4 4 3 3 3= 3.75 avg *

utep: 5 3 3 3 2 2 2 2= 2.75 avg *

memphis was clearly the more talented team at every spot.
 
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#160
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bleedingTNorange said:
you think he's winning his conference his 3rd year, right now he's tied for 1st. how do you know martin wont win it his 3rd year, i guarantee if we played in a joke of a conference he would. im willing to bet in 5 years pastner will have never won the big east either.

uhm martin in his 1st year has exceeded expectations. im pretty sure pastners expectations were atleast a ncaa tournament appearance and c-usa title.
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LOL, like the MVC. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
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#162
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OrangeBalls said:
LMFAO!

Lookit the Tiger High kid confusing pity with envy.

There isn't one thing that UT envies from Memphis. The city is the armpit of the great state of TN. There is nothing that UT envies from that joke of a school. Maybe the ribs, but that has nothing to do with the school. The academics and sports are below anything at UT.

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.
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of course there is...our basketball players...that's why UT spends so much time recruiting here...and we're not going to give you a game here to make your recruiting easier...
 
#164
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MemphisCanes said:
LOL, like the MVC. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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yea exactly in his 3rd year he won the mvc. lets see if pastner can do the same. and its sad that pastner cant do it with a bunch of 4* yet ccm did it in an equally strong conference according to the ncaa(c-usa 10th, mvc 11th) with 2* players.

thank you for making my point.
 
#165
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MemphisCanes said:
Martin shouldn't be losing games to Austin Peay then, right?
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just like pastner in his 3rd year at memphis shouldnt still be losing to conference members. the point of the utep comparison which you clearly are missing is that throughout the season he lost to them by his conference record, not just a one game loss to them.

there is no reason that pastner should not win the c-usa year in and year out, how can you even argue that? how can you lose 6 games in the c-usa last year with the talent that he had, please explain that to me?

the fact you're trying to compare pastner 3 years in c-usa to martins 3 years at msu is laughable. look at the talent difference and what each did with it...
 
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#166
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UofMemphis said:
of course there is...our basketball players...that's why UT spends so much time recruiting here...and we're not going to give you a game here to make your recruiting easier...
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we dont need the game anymore, as long as pastner keeps sucking it up, that will do plenty for us.
 
#168
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UofMemphis said:
Memphis = 17-7 (#18 RPI)

Tennessee = 12-12 (#134 RPI)

2 wins against UT for Memphis this season

and WHO is sucking it up...yeah...thought so.
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hahaha look at last year too genius...we spanked you last year and the year before.

recruits look at what a coach has done ya know. in pastners 2 years so far he has accomplished nothing:

1st year: doesnt meet expectations

2nd place in c-usa
2nd round nit loss

2nd year: doesnt meet expectations

4th place in c-usa
1st round loss in ncaa

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when recruits are used to 4 straight c-usa titles, and 4 ncaa tournaments in a row, and a championship game appearance, and then you go to a guy who cant even with the c-usa recruits see the trend. the memphis ship is going backwards it doesnt take a genius to see that.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
hahaha look at last year too genius...we spanked you last year and the year before.

recruits look at what a coach has done ya know. in pastners 2 years so far he has accomplished nothing:

1st year: doesnt meet expectations

2nd place in c-usa
2nd round nit loss

2nd year: doesnt meet expectations

4th place in c-usa
1st round loss in ncaa

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when recruits are used to 4 straight c-usa titles, and 4 ncaa tournaments in a row, and a championship game appearance, and then you go to a guy who cant even with the c-usa recruits see the trend. the memphis ship is going backwards it doesnt take a genius to see that.
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LMFAO...the days of Bruce Pearl and BBQ's in his backyard are long gone...

yup, recruits look at what coaches do...and 12-12 is not "getting it done"
 
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how does this look to a recruit:

05-06: elite 8
06-07: elite 8
07-08: championshp game
08-09: sweet 16
09-10: NO APPEARANCE
10-11: 1st round loss
11-12: possible NO APPEARANCE

the trend is clearly downward fall, if you dont think recruits notice that they you're dumber than d rose
 
#171
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UofMemphis said:
LMFAO...the days of Bruce Pearl and BBQ's in his backyard are long gone...

yup, recruits look at what coaches do...and 12-12 is not "getting it done"[/QUOTE]

heres what you're not realizing...

ccm first year expectations by media were to have a losing record and finish last in sec. right now he is exceeding expectations; therefore it looks good to recruits.

pastner first year was expected to atleast win c-usa and make tournament. he didnt win c-usa, missed the tournament, and was embarassed by a 2nd round loss in nit. that looks bad to a recruit.

see the difference? one coach is exceeding expectations, therefore it appears to the recruit the school is on the uprise. that being UT

the other coach is dissapointing and not meeting expectations therefore it would appear the school is on the downfall. that being memphis.

its really very simple
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bleedingTNorange said:
how does this look to a recruit:

05-06: elite 8
06-07: elite 8
07-08: championshp game
08-09: sweet 16
09-10: NO APPEARANCE
10-11: 1st round loss
11-12: possible NO APPEARANCE

the trend is clearly downward fall, if you dont think recruits notice that they you're dumber than d rose
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:lolabove: Memphis will make the tourney baring a total collapse.
 
#173
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bleedingTNorange said:
UofMemphis said:
LMFAO...the days of Bruce Pearl and BBQ's in his backyard are long gone...

yup, recruits look at what coaches do...and 12-12 is not "getting it done"[/QUOTE]

heres what you're not realizing...

ccm first year expectations by media were to have a losing record and finish last in sec. right now he is exceeding expectations; therefore it looks good to recruits.

pastner first year was expected to atleast win c-usa and make tournament. he didnt win c-usa, missed the tournament, and was embarassed by a 2nd round loss in nit. that looks bad to a recruit.

see the difference? one coach is exceeding expectations, therefore it appears to the recruit the school is on the uprise. that being UT

the other coach is dissapointing and not meeting expectations therefore it would appear the school is on the downfall. that being memphis.

its really very simple
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no, it wasn't...you don't lose Wall, Dodson, Henry, and Cousins while expecting to make the NCAA's

Conzo has done nothing to impress...for every good win, a worse loss.
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UofMemphis said:
:lolabove: Memphis will make the tourney baring a total collapse.
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StatSheet Projects Memphis as NCAA Tournament 10 Seed: 02/10/2012 - Memphis Basketball - Every Man A Tiger

this article is as of today. they are projected a 10 seed and are pretty close to the edge, one or 2 bad losses and you will be sweating it out. if memphis takes care of business as they should have the last 2 years they'll be in, but as pastner has proven he is more than capable of losing games in c-usa, and not winning the conference.


they are far from a lock.
 
#175
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UofMemphis said:
bleedingTNorange said:
no, it wasn't...you don't lose Wall, Dodson, Henry, and Cousins while expecting to make the NCAA's

Conzo has done nothing to impress...for every good win, a worse loss.
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yes it was. pastner was expected to win the c-usa, he had the most talented team in the conference by far. had a 5* and about 5 4* on his roster, he had plenty of talent on the team. media expected a c-usa title, and ncaa appearance.

as i already stated cuonzo has already more than exceeded expectations of everyone in the country. recruits realize that he has exceeded expectations, and that pastner has not even met expectations.

you're gonna tell me that when pastner was hired you memphis fans said well in 3 years we expect to have no c-usa titles, 1 ncaa appearance, and 0 ncaa wins? no i dont think so, there for the last 3 years have been a dissapointment.
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