Dooley Isn't going anywhere!

[Orange Daddy]

One of those fans emailed me Monday with the news that Gruden already has signed a contract with UT, though details have yet to be worked out. He heard that from a friend whose wife has a brother who works with a law firm that does athletic contracts.

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[Weezer]

Do I think Dooley needs to go? Yes! Is that relevant? NO! Because I don't give a sh*t who coaches the VOLS I'm supporting them. Its easy being a fan when we're on top, the real fans are the ones who stick around at a time like this.

Heaven forbid the road get a little rough. People on here fuss saying they see the team quit in the face of adversity well some of the responses on this thread appear hypocritical when you're doing the exact same thing!

So all of yall saying you won't buy anymore UT shirts or go to games next season... Good to hell with you! Just means more seating options when I buy my tickets, and more shirts in my size to chose from!

Let me spell this out, not necessarily for you, but for those who share your opinion. We have two entities. There is the Vol football team, and then there is Derek Dooley, who has the good fortune of being the Vols current HC. Derek Dooley is not the team, he is merely a coach, and coaches can be replaced.

Now, we as fans, who recognize Dooley's limitations and know our football team deserves better, have only one way to speak to the AD that he will listen to. He does not care about angry emails, he wouldn't care if we picketed his office, what he does care about is money. The only thing he will listen to is his wallet when finances start going south.

Does that mean we're not supporting the team? No. I will still root for the team to win, but I will not give my money to Hart so he can continue to employ a subpar coach. We are supporting the team by telling the AD these young men deserve a coach that can lead them to victory. They deserve a coach who can develop their talent and help them reach that next level. Dooley is not that man.

Going back to your first paragraph, you say you don't give a $h!t who coaches the Vols. As a fan, shouldn't you care whether these young men are getting the coaching they deserve? You say "real fans" are the ones who stick around during times like these. Who's left? We're all here passionately making our case for change. Not going to a game doesn't mean we won't watch them on TV and cheer for them to win. It's not my place to say who is or is not a "true fan", a term thrown around way too often, but it seems to me a fan wants what is best for his/her team. The fact you think Dooley should go at all says you do not believe him to be what is best for this team. So why accept it? Why not demand change in the only way the AD will listen. If revenues drop, Hart will know fans mean business when they say it's time for Dooley to go. If he wants our money, he needs to earn it, not give it away to a subpar coach.

If Hart cannot figure this out, then the next AD will.

 

[Weezer]

Honestly, I do not understand how people that support Dooley come hell or highwater can say they want what is best for the Vols. Dooley has shown he cannot put the talent together. The head coach is not the football team. The team consists of the young men who proudly don the orange and white. The coaches are the guys we pay to teach these young men how to play together and get better. If the coaches are failing, the team is suffering. Is that really so hard to understand?

 

[gr82batnvol]

First off let me say, no one is more in support about the whole Dools/Gruden switch at the top. You guys don't really believe a deal has been inked with Gruden, do you? There is NO way that has happened. I do believe Dooley will be fired. I do believe Jon Gruden will give us consideration, but there is nothing concrete about these rumors. They are just rumors. Hey, if Gruden does end up as Vols coach, I will be a happy fan. I just don't understand where all this talk is coming from. There's no deal yet.

 

[IngloriousBastard]

I think he is done. Period. But I'm behind him until it's official.

 

[JimVol]

Have an opinion. Do you think Dooley should stay, or should he go?

GruVol..

1 more year with CDD.. here is why

Dooley should have an opportunity to compete with his upperclassmen. His first full recruiting class will be upperclassmen next year (Jr's) with a few Sr's that he can claim.

Next season with several upperclassmen to his credit these close games should be W's

My opinion is that CDD gets next year to prove his coaching ability (3 and 1/2 full classes) as a HC. If he fails (no moral victories) next year then its time to move on..

My opinion is that Coach Sal gets canned at the end of the year. This hire has turned out to be a fail hire for Dooley. (yes the Sal hire is a direct reflection on Dooley)

 

[photovol]

My, how things have changed, it's now hip to be a loser!

 

[Brianchevy]

OP is wrong about 1 thing. CJG is wrong it's AJG for "announcer John Gruden", because that's all he wants to be boys. that hire is not going to happen.

 

[photovol]

Some of these fake pro-Dooley threads are entertaining...this one is just sad

I agree this one is delusional!

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

GruVol..

1 more year with CDD.. here is why

Dooley should have an opportunity to compete with his upperclassmen. His first full recruiting class will be upperclassmen next year (Jr's) with a few Sr's that he can claim.

Next season with several upperclassmen to his credit these close games should be W's

My opinion is that CDD gets next year to prove his coaching ability (3 and 1/2 full classes) as a HC. If he fails (no moral victories) next year then its time to move on..

My opinion is that Coach Sal gets canned at the end of the year. This hire has turned out to be a fail hire for Dooley. (yes the Sal hire is a direct reflection on Dooley)

Moral victories are a crock, especially when season after season is nothing but "moral victories." Dooley hasn't beaten a single good team all season with this talented, experienced roster. I have no reason to believe next season would be any different. Fire Dooley and bring in a coach who won't let good talent go to waste.

 

[photovol]

How many years would Alabama or Georgia or Florida or LSU....put up with Dooley's SEC record?
That's right not very long.....oh.. we are Tennessee so lets give Dooley another year

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

How many years would Alabama or Georgia or Florida or LSU....put up with Dooley's SEC record?
That's right not very long.....oh.. we are Tennessee so lets give Dooley another year

Some people just cannot see the obvious.
His record should rightfully do him in this year.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

like it or not. doolsey isnt going anywhere. this program has to have stability and there is NO ONE worth a crap right now who will take this job especially gruden.

with that said, let it play out another year and wait for a big fish, a realistic fish.

thats reality folks. believe it.

.

 

[pharmDvol11]

Today was supposed to be the day.

Big huge announcement about CDD resigning and CJG being the next coach.

Well, we see how that went.

CDD is our HC. Simply not going to change this year or next.

Lets support our Vols and get behind the program.. enough with wanting Dooley's head and what not.

GO VOLS... BEAT TROY!!!!

We should've had a ban bet. 75% of this board would've been gone and the front page would've been bearable to read

 

[Stone6162]

So you admit that Gruden is unlikely to come here. Cool. Do you also admit the situation that Dooley took over was very difficult? I mean, being in the SEC and all? I'm not trying to be a smart azz. I also don't think, or feel that UT will be relegated to mediocrity if we keep Dooley. The players, to a man, made it publicly clear that they support our coach - their coach. If the players feel that they are being coached up and that he is doing the right thing for UT - then I have no reason to not support our coach. Dooley's W/L record sucks. No denying that. Call me a fool, sunshine pumper, whatever, but I've been around the block for 50 some odd years, and know a quality man when I see one. Dooley fits the bill.

Just because a guy is a quality man as you say, doesnt mean he should get to keep his job if he is not pulling his weight as a coach. I think he's a great guy as well, but i think he's garbage as a HC. He's in over his head and UT will be just ok while he is coach. When was the last time we as Vols fans had to worry if Vandy or KY was going to beat us? NEVER!! and here we are, at least myself wondering if we can pull the next four games off. It's just time to go in another direction and put this dumpster fire out.

 

[pharmDvol11]

GruVol..

1 more year with CDD.. here is why

Dooley should have an opportunity to compete with his upperclassmen. His first full recruiting class will be upperclassmen next year (Jr's) with a few Sr's that he can claim.

Next season with several upperclassmen to his credit these close games should be W's

My opinion is that CDD gets next year to prove his coaching ability (3 and 1/2 full classes) as a HC. If he fails (no moral victories) next year then its time to move on..

My opinion is that Coach Sal gets canned at the end of the year. This hire has turned out to be a fail hire for Dooley. (yes the Sal hire is a direct reflection on Dooley)

In Dooley's defense he had to hire like 8 coaches in the offseason. I know I know defending our Head Coach is frowned upon. Personally, I think the secondary is completely lost and I think I know why... Is it really necessary to have 2 coaches back there? (serious question) Conklin is a keeper though imo... Only judging by interviews

 

[loggervol]

Let me spell this out, not necessarily for you, but for those who share your opinion. We have two entities. There is the Vol football team, and then there is Derek Dooley, who has the good fortune of being the Vols current HC. Derek Dooley is not the team, he is merely a coach, and coaches can be replaced.

Now, we as fans, who recognize Dooley's limitations and know our football team deserves better, have only one way to speak to the AD that he will listen to. He does not care about angry emails, he wouldn't care if we picketed his office, what he does care about is money. The only thing he will listen to is his wallet when finances start going south.

Does that mean we're not supporting the team? No. I will still root for the team to win, but I will not give my money to Hart so he can continue to employ a subpar coach. We are supporting the team by telling the AD these young men deserve a coach that can lead them to victory. They deserve a coach who can develop their talent and help them reach that next level. Dooley is not that man.

Going back to your first paragraph, you say you don't give a $h!t who coaches the Vols. As a fan, shouldn't you care whether these young men are getting the coaching they deserve? You say "real fans" are the ones who stick around during times like these. Who's left? We're all here passionately making our case for change. Not going to a game doesn't mean we won't watch them on TV and cheer for them to win. It's not my place to say who is or is not a "true fan", a term thrown around way too often, but it seems to me a fan wants what is best for his/her team. The fact you think Dooley should go at all says you do not believe him to be what is best for this team. So why accept it? Why not demand change in the only way the AD will listen. If revenues drop, Hart will know fans mean business when they say it's time for Dooley to go. If he wants our money, he needs to earn it, not give it away to a subpar coach.

If Hart cannot figure this out, then the next AD will.

our off. deserves better.we have made great improvements in our off.our oline is the best in the sec.our running game is a complete turn around from last year and we have a good passing game.that's three areas of improvement.they deserve better.

our def.is awful.is it because of scheme?is it because of coaches?or,is it because of the players?we have 2 players that have played more than 2 years in the sec.quality depth,is that the problem?i can't argue about the def.they should be getting better.we keep seeing the same mistakes every week.

now,there is improvement in the off.so does dd get appreciation for the off?i know he gets the blame for the def.put the w's and l's to the side and look at the product as a whole.is there improvement on the team?just a question.

 

[utfan72408]

Today was supposed to be the day.

Big huge announcement about CDD resigning and CJG being the next coach.

Well, we see how that went.

CDD is our HC. Simply not going to change this year or next.

Lets support our Vols and get behind the program.. enough with wanting Dooley's head and what not.

GO VOLS... BEAT TROY!!!!

Ugh.... You know, I'm all for supporting the program, and I appreciate the optimism and all that...

But there's something that bothers me about this post. You sound... you sound almost HAPPY that we're stuck with Dooley. There's no way to be happy about that. Sorry.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Bleed orange my ass. You just gave the very definition of a bandwagon fan.

Don't worry, you can hop back on at your convenience.

Uh Tennessee has won 1 sec game in the last 2 years, haven't beaten a ranked team since 09. I'm pretty sure no one can be called a bandwagon fan of a team who hasn't had a winning record since 09

 

[FlVols]

Uh Tennessee has won 1 sec game in the last 2 years, haven't beaten a ranked team since 09. I'm pretty sure no one can be called a bandwagon fan of a team who hasn't had a winning record since 09

We were ranked this year before the Florida game.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

In Dooley's defense he had to hire like 8 coaches in the offseason. I know I know defending our Head Coach is frowned upon. Personally, I think the secondary is completely lost and I think I know why... Is it really necessary to have 2 coaches back there? (serious question) Conklin is a keeper though imo... Only judging by interviews

Why do you think he had to hire those 8 coaches in the offseason? That's not a defense of Dooley, that is another indictment.

 

[GKSS 61]

Today was supposed to be the day.

Big huge announcement about CDD resigning and CJG being the next coach.

Well, we see how that went.

CDD is our HC. Simply not going to change this year or next.

Lets support our Vols and get behind the program.. enough with wanting Dooley's head and what not.

GO VOLS... BEAT TROY!!!!

Gonna be tough for him to retain his job. His record against the rivals is damning.

 

[BornAllVol]

And if he starts to win? What if Dooley is standing on the sideline at the SEC championship next year directing the Vols? Still going to not support the program?

I am not happy with mediocrity.. not happy at all...

But...

I will take being a mediocre SEC team over a top level ACC or WAC or Big team ANY DAY..

We compete with the BEST College football teams in the nation week in and week out...No moral victorys but our peers are not bottom feeders...

We couldn't compete in the ACC or WAC with Dooley coaching...

 

[GmanTN]

Our front end SEC schedule is not going to change, 0-15 is not going to get it done. If you love the Vols than 0-15 should tell you it is time for a change. I have been a fan for over 40 years and I have never seen such a lousy conference record for consecutive years in my lifetime.

 

[TNVolSoldier]

About how I expected this type of thread to go lol.