Doug Matthews On Tennessee Vols 2015 Recruiting Class

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Morpheus said:
Thanks OP thats a nice summary.

I almost made a similar post yesterday but didn't want to get into a numbers discussion or speculate on who would be cut loose. But it looks like Mathews sees things playing out about like I do, except for the Atkinson kid, who I haven't followed at all.

Of the 5 definite takes, I think 4 will be Vols, but still see McGraw as long shot at this point. But they will take 4 total DBs, IMO.

I have assumed Jackson is OL all along, so Richmond will get the last spot there.

Never thought Gibson would be in this class and still don't.

I do think theres an outside chance of an additional player not mentioned by Mathews getting a spot, depending on how things shake out. Guys like Simmons, Jones, Tuttle, Love come to mind. And of course Sweat, if we could get him.

It won't be a top 5 class, but it will mix well with the 2014 class to continue the foundation we need. And I love the ST additions.
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I think it would be a top 10 class and I still think we at least land Jones or Tuttle.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I think it would be a top 10 class and I still think we at least land Jones or Tuttle.
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Better yet and more important than a class ranking, Butch Jones will have filled the team's needs better than anyone could have imagined. That is what recruiting iix really about-filling needs.
 
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SDV said:
What's the relevance here?
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Credibility of Matthews. Goes from being a reasonably accomplished assistant football coach, to being in business and failing while leaving others holding the bag, to now being a football "expert" on all things UT. In reality if he was a really good coach, he would still be coaching. If he was a good businessman, he would still be in business. All that was left was for him to trade on his alleged "insider" status through Fulmer in the UT program. Great. Buy all of it you want - if it is still a good ole boy system you will get nothing but inside stuff without having to pay for it through VQ.
 
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k-town_king said:
He lives near JJ and has been to a bunch of games. I'm sure he could have heard it from a local coach or family friend of the Jennings. That doesn't mean he heard it from someone in the Vol program. He says the whole thing today was not based on things he heard from people on the Hill. Why would he lie? He didn't have to state it wasn't from someone on the Hill if it was. He could have just said what he heard and not claimed any source if he was protecting some top secret insider info.
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You're trying too hard to live in a world where our dreams can be reality. Only an idiot would reveal his source anyhow.
 
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Vols4us said:
Credibility of Matthews. Goes from being a reasonably accomplished assistant football coach, to being in business and failing while leaving others holding the bag, to now being a football "expert" on all things UT. In reality if he was a really good coach, he would still be coaching. If he was a good businessman, he would still be in business. All that was left was for him to trade on his alleged "insider" status through Fulmer in the UT program. Great. Buy all of it you want - if it is still a good ole boy system you will get nothing but inside stuff without having to pay for it through VQ.
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He may be a bad business man. It doesn't mean he is not connected at UT. It also doesn't mean he lacks credibility except when or when not to take out loans.

This is too specific for him not to be getting it from someone. Recruiting is, however, fluid and by October it may be completely different.
 
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Vols4us said:
Credibility of Matthews. Goes from being a reasonably accomplished assistant football coach, to being in business and failing while leaving others holding the bag, to now being a football "expert" on all things UT. In reality if he was a really good coach, he would still be coaching. If he was a good businessman, he would still be in business. All that was left was for him to trade on his alleged "insider" status through Fulmer in the UT program. Great. Buy all of it you want - if it is still a good ole boy system you will get nothing but inside stuff without having to pay for it through VQ.
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I am not going to hold his business failures against him if that is what it was. I am in the legal field, and lawsuits are filed all of the time. I didn't read about a settlement or a disposition in the case, and the plaintiff doesn't always get what they want. Even so, I know good, smart people who have failed in business ventures. I think I have read about your business success so you know that timing and other things go into it. You have to have people who are willing to take those chances in business, otherwise, we don't have the system that we enjoy. Bottom line is that a failed business does not mean that he doesn't know people and have good information. JMO.
 
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BonesVol said:
Man, the TG supporters will have to start a support group after he doesn't come to UT.
I DO believe that Bruce will be a part of this team. He is not listed as a slot or rb by this staff. He is listed as a baller. :) CBJ will find a place to use him even if only a special teams guy.
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Whew--you are right about the TG supporters. They remind me of the Grudenites. I admit that I would have taken TG or Gruden until I look at what Butch has done and now the squirrely stuff that TG does. I think I will stick with the Butch Jones, JJ and Dormady selections.

As for TG, I would like to see us get him set up at a friendly JUCO to get his grades up and grow up some. Maybe a couple of years will set him straight.
 
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Whenever someone mentions Doug Matthews, I feel like the monkey....


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Thanks, Tux for taking the time to type all that out. That was a lot of work.

There is some great info there. I haven't really listened to Matthews much, but I will say that I listened to him leading up to NSD last year, and he ended up being spot on with some predictions that were really out of step with the general consensus at that time.

The only thing I worry about after reading all of this is that I really want us to take another OT in addition to Richmond. I just think we desperately need some numbers and depth there. I've been very skeptical of all the D. Jackson to OT talk, but maybe the coaches really do think that's a possibility.
 
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Tux said:
Doug Matthews hosted an interesting show on college football recruiting and focused in on the Vols 2015 recruiting class. Matthews used his background as a coach to create a picture of what takes place in recruiting and used his contact information to discuss the Vols 2015 recruiting class. This was definitely his best dow to date.

I have highlighted what he discussed, which you can listen to by pulling up his podcast.

104.5 The Zone Big Orange Sunday With Doug Matthews 6-29-14 Podcast
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"According to Matthews, UT will not accept the commitment of Torrance Gibson should he commit. He said that Gibson has some character concerns and that UT has told Jauan Jennings that he will be the only dual threat QB that UT signs in this class and that UT has told both Jennings and Dormady that they will be the only 2 QBs signed in this 2015 recruiting class."

Let the meltdown commence. :machgun:
 
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I'm not saying he is wrong, but if he is saying we won't take another QB JUST BECAUSE we told Jennings we won't, then i don't think that's set in stone. We also told Ferguson we weren't going to take another QB
 
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mrorange211 said:
Whenever someone mentions Doug Matthews, I feel like the monkey....


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LOL! You gotta love the unnecessary censorship gifs.

For those curious, go to the 3:52 mark...I know, it takes all the fun out of it...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrH_zkWGIHM#t=233[/youtube]
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I'm not saying he is wrong, but if he is saying we won't take another QB JUST BECAUSE we told Jennings we won't, then i don't think that's set in stone. We also told Ferguson we weren't going to take another QB
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Dooley said we would not take another QB. Jones did not make that promise.
 
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k-town_king said:
Yea and you and a few more are steadily sinking in it. Mathews himself said he didn't get this from anybody in the program and doesn't really follow recruiting. So that makes him know more than those who whole job is recruiting and have inside info that say we are after Gibson? Ok sure.
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What was he gonna say? Do you think he would say I got all of this info from Bob Welton and this is straight from his mouth. No, he would never say that because that would ruin his relationship.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
I'm not saying he is wrong, but if he is saying we won't take another QB JUST BECAUSE we told Jennings we won't, then i don't think that's set in stone. We also told Ferguson we weren't going to take another QB
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That is exactly what coaches say to recruits, especially with top QB recruits. Like it or not, that's how it works.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
May also have played into why Riley never fully bought in to what the coaches were selling and helped in his decision to walk away. JMO of course.
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That is something that crossed my mine when they both signed with Tennessee. You may be onto something here LV. It's water under the bridge now, but it is something that this star need not repeat down the line. Thats why most teams only recruit one QB in a class.
 
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