Early signs of bad coaching in first 5 games.

[terrypedigo]

Yes its going to get brutal the dogs will use us for a toy bone, thats just the way it is and will be for this and next year, go on a vacation and come back in 2015.

 

[champyvol]

lol:lol:Simple we dont have enough SEC TALENT, and we want till 2 to 3 years every one on here knew that but you.

this just isn't true. we might mot be on the same talent levels as bama gerogia and other elite sec schools. we are with vandy UK and mizzou and they will all clock us. some of the problems we are having right now does have to do with the coaches on the sideline.

 

[photovol]

It's way to early to start this shat! Geez

 

[northknoxvol]

Whatever happened to getting the most out of the talent you have? If your system is not working then adapt. You say that this year doesnt mean anything....just throw it away. Tell that to people who bought season tickets or the Seniors on the football team that are playing their last year of football! You play to win every game you can! You dont hold anything back. Play the FROSH qbs Butch! Your a lost helmet or qb injury away from making your redshirt decision anyways!

 

[champyvol]

Whatever happened to getting the most out of the talent you have? If your system is not working then adapt. You say that this year doesnt mean anything....just throw it away. Tell that to people who bought season tickets or the Seniors on the football team that are playing their last year of football! You play to win every game you can! You dont hold anything back. Play the FROSH qbs Butch! Your a lost helmet or qb injury away from making your redshirt decision anyways!

i agree with this. at least it gives us a reason to watch.

 

[windrider]

Last years offense would have beat Florida

But we don't have last years offense.

 

[VOL6479]

Whatever happened to getting the most out of the talent you have? If your system is not working then adapt. You say that this year doesnt mean anything....just throw it away. Tell that to people who bought season tickets or the Seniors on the football team that are playing their last year of football! You play to win every game you can! You dont hold anything back. Play the FROSH qbs Butch! Your a lost helmet or qb injury away from making your redshirt decision anyways!

Don't you ever get tired of posting the same stuff over and over?

 

[Power T-Rev]

Aren't you that guy that mentioned bringing Kiffin back? Yikes!

I'm assuming you're talking about the moron that called in on the post game show. I wanted to reach through my radio and butch slap him. He said something to the effect of, "I would welcome lane kiffin back with open arm." Give me a break.

 

[Fightmaker]

I have no doubt that Butch and his guys can coach. I also have no doubt that there is a big learning curve for the kind of competition they are facing now, as well as the type of fan base they are dealing with. This year will be a bit on the ugly side due to the learning curve issues, as well as a really notable lack of talent to do battle with. But I do believe that if they can pull the talent in here consistently for 2 or 3 classes we will see a big difference. I trust them because of their past history. No, they havent had a rebuilding job like this to deal with before. It will be a climb but Butch will get us there.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Butch has put himself in a no win situation. If Worley does go down and one of the freshman come in and do really well, the the fans will be saying you should have be playing the guy all along. If he comes in and sux they'll be saying you should have gotten him some time earlier.

Who cares what the fans say? They are just that, uninformed fans, not coaches.

 

[92volalum]

IMO the single absolutely inexplicable move was keeping Peterman in after he began to decompensate (around the first play or so).

Close runner up is starting Peterman in the first place.

All the rest can be debated based on personnel, circumstances, etc.

this is the thing i cant.let go... shows potential issues with in game adjustments in the long run n just a stupid coaching decision on any level much less making 3m a year

 

[VOLINVONORE]

We run Pee wee plays. I know there are more plays to be seen, but right now it is what it is.

A coach runs plays which fit the talent and are most likely to score points. If that is Pee Wee plays, so be it.

 

[BlueHalo]

Lmao.

Criticizes coach for putting in 2nd string quarterback when Worley got sloppy.

Criticizes coach for not putting in 2nd string freshman when game is on the line.

You sir, are stupid.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Whatever happened to getting the most out of the talent you have? If your system is not working then adapt. You say that this year doesnt mean anything....just throw it away. Tell that to people who bought season tickets or the Seniors on the football team that are playing their last year of football! You play to win every game you can! You dont hold anything back. Play the FROSH qbs Butch! Your a lost helmet or qb injury away from making your redshirt decision anyways!

You guys are as if the coaches are trying to lose games. Why can't you understand that the coaches want to win much more than we do. Its their livelihood. Act as if you have just a little bit of intelligence and knowledge about the game of football.

 

[VolinWayne]

I'm assuming you're talking about the moron that called in on the post game show. I wanted to reach through my radio and butch slap him. He said something to the effect of, "I would welcome lane kiffin back with open arm." Give me a break.

That does sound like something Northknoxvol would say.

 

[Wizard of Orange]

I have no doubt that Butch and his guys can coach. I also have no doubt that there is a big learning curve for the kind of competition they are facing now, as well as the type of fan base they are dealing with. This year will be a bit on the ugly side due to the learning curve issues, as well as a really notable lack of talent to do battle with. But I do believe that if they can pull the talent in here consistently for 2 or 3 classes we will see a big difference. I trust them because of their past history. No, they havent had a rebuilding job like this to deal with before. It will be a climb but Butch will get us there.

I agree. Any criticism of the staff gets interpreted as a desire to fire Butch. He and the staff still have to make some progress of their own and the lack of talent hinders that progress.

Butch will get us back. How quickly he does so may depend on how flexible he is based on the talent he has on hand.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Exactly. You shouldn’t have to run a fake FG against a team that (1) is in their first full year in FBS; (2) lost to Southern Utah this year; and (3) was playing Hargrave Military Academy a few years ago. This team has not progressed enough to take on this upcoming schedule. I like Coach Jones, but disappointed his staff didn’t make key adjustments to the attack put on in the second half by USA. I hope that they can get it figured out this week from Sunday to Friday so that it shows on Saturday.

you don't call a fake field goal or punt for a certain game or team unless you seem something on film that makes you think it will work, they saw something on film and it would have worked if not for a false start.

Im sure they have other fake field goal plays and if they see something on film and think it will work they will call it.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Whatever happened to getting the most out of the talent you have? If your system is not working then adapt. You say that this year doesnt mean anything....just throw it away. Tell that to people who bought season tickets or the Seniors on the football team that are playing their last year of football! You play to win every game you can! You dont hold anything back. Play the FROSH qbs Butch! Your a lost helmet or qb injury away from making your redshirt decision anyways!

did you ever think that they are getting the most out of it?

did you ever think that may be the reason that the FR QB's are not playing is because Worley gives the team the best chance to win? I know for a fact this staff and team is trying to win as many games as possible. If CBJ had given up on the SR's we would have seen a FR QB and started working toward next year.

Dobbs was CBJ's guy if he was ready he would be playing.

 

[f77f00]

I can not say bad coaching, but there are some problems here. Either our system is too complicated for the 2 freshmen or our staff has failed to simplify it to allow the QB's and receivers to grasp the system.

With the quality of QB play that we have to this point I can see only one more possible win on the schedule, Kentucky. But even the Wildcats have gotten better from the beginning of the season to this point.

The thing is, it doesn't appear to be complicated at all.

 

[lonelawyer]

Since this board has the reincarnated spirits of Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry and Bear Bryant on it; I really want to hear some specifics. What plays would you run? What specific personnel decisions would you make? Have you watched practice?

 

[HARTUPM]

I will concede that game 1 versus Austin Peay was a well played no penalty football game. Everyone saw that Worley was going to struggle. Nobody got meaningful snaps at back up qb.

game 2 Worley continues to show signs of not performing at sec levels and still nobody gets meaninful snaps at qb.

game 3 you absolutely got hammered by a much better opponent and worley continued to show he could not make it happen....Peterman gets mop up duty vs Oregons 3rd string.

game 4 in the swamp you finally decide it is time to change qb......but you havent given the back up any meaningful playing time.......it backfires and you not only get burned you hold your hand to the fire the entire first half when a Florida team was begging for you to beat them.

game 5 the team starts off great and has a 31-7 lead in the first half...your qb throws 3 picks and gives the little South Alabama team life....then you try a fake field goal which looks like it would have worked but your team didnt execute. You have to punt the football in that situation. Palardy has been good to this point and by that decision you prolly destroy his confidence and give the other team great field position.


Summary we are 3-2 and all of us thought we would be 3-2.........but guys I dont see a football team that is improving from week to week.........we seem to be getting worse and the next few games are going to be brutal.

Well that's a ground breaking analysis. Why don't you call Dave Hart and tell him you are more qualified than Coach Jones to be the head coach at Tennessee! Better yet, see if Hart will let you bring Lane Kiffin/Dave Clawson as co-OCs, Dooley as WR coach, Orgeron as recruiting coordinator, and Sal Sunseri as DC!! Now that would be a heck of a staff that could most definitely figure it all out!!!

 

[jtlhotspot]

Not bad coaching, poor execution. We are having poor execution because of the lack of talent/depth on our roster. Right now we have walk ons playing everywhere. What else can you expect with the team? We all knew we should be 3-2 at this point, and we are. Last years team would have lost to South Alabama down the stretch. This team didn't, we are better disciplined and BETTER COACHED

 

[rlstone11]

I find myself agreeing with northknox on some points. We could play to the strengths of the offense and play a spread pass attack vs this read option. I think it gives us a better chance to win now. Worley is a much better drop back passer where he can set his feet and scan the whole field. When your running left or right you are only playing half the field and when you are not a natural runner its hard to stop and set and deliver. If you want an example of changing the system to meet your personnel see Urban Meyer with Chris Leak. He adjusted and won, then when Tebow came along (ala Ferguson or Dobbs) he began running his offense. I'm not a coach but I am a people manager and you play to the strengths of your people until you build your own team. Its frustrating to me the bullheadedness of this offensive staff. I am very pleased with the defensive coaching.

 

[jtlhotspot]

I find myself agreeing with northknox on some points. We could play to the strengths of the offense and play a spread pass attack vs this read option. I think it gives us a better chance to win now. Worley is a much better drop back passer where he can set his feet and scan the whole field. When your running left or right you are only playing half the field and when you are not a natural runner its hard to stop and set and deliver. If you want an example of changing the system to meet your personnel see Urban Meyer with Chris Leak. He adjusted and won, then when Tebow came along (ala Ferguson or Dobbs) he began running his offense. I'm not a coach but I am a people manager and you play to the strengths of your people until you build your own team. Its frustrating to me the bullheadedness of this offensive staff. I am very pleased with the defensive coaching.

A SPREAD PASS ATTACK???? You nuts?

 

[wolfe]

I agree with the OP. The biggest failure by Jones is not playing the freshmen. Redshirting is only useful if you have a decent starter at QB,WE DON'T! Jones is trying his best to prove he is incompetent. It's working.