Electric Vehicles

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NorthDallas40 said:
No you’ve been providing everyone with rose colored glasses tainted marketing brochures. You in fact provided actual marketing web links. 😂 You haven’t been an honest broker at any point in this discussion. And are thus treated as a dishonest broker.

And I’d advise you to read up on the technology also. Both the good and the bad. Not just the positive marketing cultish information you’ve clearly focused on thus far. Because you clearly have no damn idea what you’re talking about.
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Really? Regarding your comment on honesty, Please refer to what you're speaking of and allow me an opportunity to clarify if needed.

Note: We could probably start a new Thread in football forum, with survey: which UT sports player might TVA select, to market its future in EV --

"TVA is helping drive innovation in the Tennessee Valley and helping you drive the newest tech in transportation.

We are excited to be working with a broad coalition of partners to increase the use of electric vehicles (EVs) in the region. Our shared goal is to pave the way for more than 200,000 EVs on Valley roads by 2028."

Electric Vehicles (tva.com)
 
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UT-Rex said:
Note: it's NIL that needs "the marketing"

Please explain, what good does it serve, to keep referring to me by that name (and also alongside that emoji).

Here's a novel idea (as there is great focus on NIL all over the Board): we can ponder which UT sports player might TVA select, to market its future in EV --

"TVA is helping drive innovation in the Tennessee Valley and helping you drive the newest tech in transportation.

We are excited to be working with a broad coalition of partners to increase the use of electric vehicles (EVs) in the region. Our shared goal is to pave the way for more than 200,000 EVs on Valley roads by 2028."

Electric Vehicles (tva.com)
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What does this gibberish even mean?!
 
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UT-Rex said:
Really? Regarding your comment on honesty, Please refer to what you're speaking of and allow me an opportunity to clarify if needed.

Note: We could probably start a new Thread in football forum, with survey: which UT sports player might TVA select, to market its future in EV --

"TVA is helping drive innovation in the Tennessee Valley and helping you drive the newest tech in transportation.

We are excited to be working with a broad coalition of partners to increase the use of electric vehicles (EVs) in the region. Our shared goal is to pave the way for more than 200,000 EVs on Valley roads by 2028."

Electric Vehicles (tva.com)
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I’ve given you multple examples. They are there for you to see. I don’t care if you correct them or not and frankly I dont think you are capable. This TVA NIL gibberish non sequitur is a good example of that.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Needs and desired usage matters too. I’d buy one for the Red woman provided we had something else to travel in. But they’re nowhere close to a working operational work truck. I’m simi retired but I still play around as a handyman and taking care of properties. That requires an f250.
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A work vehicle, regardless of type, needs to be available 100% of the time and have minimized down time for maintenance and refueling. A BEV likely fits that role on maintenance as they are mechanically simpler than ICE vehicles. But it fails on refueling and range. A FCEV corrects the refueling and range issue while maintaining the simpler design for ease of maintenance. A FCEV is the better overall systems design clearly to me.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
A work vehicle, regardless of type, needs to be available 100% of the time and have minimized down time for maintenance and refueling. A BEV likely fits that role on maintenance as they are mechanically simpler than ICE vehicles. But it fails on refueling and range. A FCEV corrects the refueling and range issue while maintaining the simpler design for ease of maintenance. A FCEV is the better overall systems design clearly to me.
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If FCEV are superior to BEV, what's the hurdle? Seems like I started hearing about FCEV over 20 years ago.
 
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Fuel cell vehicle - Wikipedia
A fuel cell vehicle (FCV) or fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) is an electric vehicle that uses a fuel cell, sometimes in combination with a small battery or supercapacitor, to power its onboard electric motor.
As of December 2020, 31,225 passenger FCEVs powered with hydrogen had been sold worldwide.
Instead of requiring recharging, however, the fuel cell can be refilled with hydrogen.

A potential hurdle might be: limited accessible refueling centers

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Hydrogen Fueling Station Locations (energy.gov)
 
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McDad said:
If FCEV are superior to BEV, what's the hurdle? Seems like I started hearing about FCEV over 20 years ago.
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Hydrogen. Availability via distribution and cost as compared to fossil fuels with current generation methods. There are new technologies to solve both but they aren’t widely available. I’ve made a few posts over the last few pages on it if you’re interested. BEVs benefit from being able to just plug into the wall. But that just causes more issues if they become widely adopted. With a FCEV you gotta go to the gas station (literally in this case) to refuel. This is why I consider BEVs intellectually lazy they are short sighted on the burden to support them by the grid and they aren’t green if the power came from fossil fuel. If we are going to build infrastructure let’s do it once and be done with it.

Honestly I think we will see both types of EVs coexisting in the long term. And they share the same electric final drive.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Hydrogen. Availability via distribution and cost as compared to fossil fuels with current generation methods. There are new technologies to solve both but they aren’t widely available. I’ve made a few posts over the last few pages on it if you’re interested

Honestly I think we will see both types of EVs coexisting in the long term. And they share the same electric final drive.
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Do you think the public's perception of hydrogen (Hindenburg disaster) has anything to do with the hurdles?
 
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McDad said:
Do you think the public's perception of hydrogen (Hindenburg disaster) has anything to do with the hurdles?
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No idea but the average idiot never ceases to amaze me. Look what Three Mile Island did for nukes. And people are running around with equivalent amounts of energy in gasoline in their tanks right now but they don’t even think of that.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No idea but the average idiot never ceases to amaze me. Look what Three Mile Island did for nukes. And people are running around with equivalent amounts of energy in gasoline in their tanks right now but they don’t even think of that.
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I thought hydrogen is much more reactive/ volatile than gasoline??
 
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McDad said:
I thought hydrogen is much more reactive/ volatile than gasoline??
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In its liquid form gas is stable. We call vaporized gasoline a fuel air bomb🤷‍♂️

The current technology uses composite high pressure vessels for crash safety and there is a good deal of study in the reliability of those vessels. Personally I don’t see it as an issue.

Edit: yes hydrogen is reactive. It also is the most abundant element on earth and provides the highest energy density per unit mass I believe.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
In its liquid form gas is stable. We call vaporized gasoline a fuel air bomb🤷‍♂️

The current technology uses composite high pressure vessels for crash safety and there is a good deal of study in the reliability of those vessels. Personally I don’t see it as an issue.

Edit: yes hydrogen is reactive. It also is the most abundant element on earth and provides the highest energy density per unit mass I believe.
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How's your eye doing? For real.
 
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McDad said:
How's your eye doing? For real.
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Much better thank you. I have decent vision in both eyes. Not good but decent. I have good vision in my good eye but it tires from doing all the work. As soon as I start dumping drops in the bad eye every morning my vision degrades. It’s a strong corticosteroid. And I’ll be on them likely till end of September I’d guess.

Being blind in one eye for a week and a half is scary as hell. I can’t fathom full blindness that terrifies me.
 
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UT-Rex said:
As a nation (as Vols or any nation), we ought to consider,

as to what good would this do to our neighbors, families, properties and economy as whole (including diesel/fuel pumps; diesel mechanics, etc) in such event. IMO, it's interesting that this type of forward looking thinking received any Likes.

These are just my opinions (based on past experience and education / reading and watching folks around).
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I really don’t like talking to you.
I’m not looking forward to the collapse. That’s sarcasm. But I think you knew that. That was a backwards way of saying the grid won’t support the additional load and there’s no plan to upgrade
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I really don’t like talking to you.
I’m not looking forward to the collapse. That’s sarcasm. But I think you knew that. That was a backwards way of saying the grid won’t support the additional load and there’s no plan to upgrade
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I find it hilarious he necro’ed a year old post to try and sound like a pompous self righteous hypocrite when you look at his own posts. I think you owe him rent money too 😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I find it hilarious he necro’ed a year old post to try and sound like a pompous self righteous hypocrite when you look at his own posts. I think you owe him rent money too 😂
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To be fair, I was relentless it taking him to task. So yes he’s pissed at me. Which is fine. I’ll never start a conversation with him. All he has to do is ignore me.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
To be fair, I was relentless it taking him to task. So yes he’s pissed at me. Which is fine. I’ll never start a conversation with him. All he has to do is ignore me.
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This exchange started with him coming at me too with a bunch of badly thought out EV marketing hype and no substance. I’m not inclined to buy into his Rodney King “why can’t we all just get along” BS plea at this point. F$&@ him.
 
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"In another legal move that will likely go a step further in making Tesla’s electric vehicle charging infrastructure the de facto system in the United States, Texas has approved a plan ....
At stake is disbursement of part of $5 billion in funding set by National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program; Texas is the largest recipient of the grant."

Texas mandates new EV charging stations use the Tesla NACS plug (yahoo.com)
8/20/23
 
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