ESPN thinks we go 4-8 next year

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#251
Anyone want to print a few copies of this article and put it in the weight room and where the actual players will see it? That would motivate me all day!
 
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Just for reference, ESPN predicted us to finish 5-7 last year, and everyone on here was bashing them then also, saying we would win atleast 6...
 
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jacobyvoln27 said:
Mssou, S. Carolina, Florida, Vandy and Georgia all winnable in my eyes. Still not ready for Alabama and Oklahoma. We will be closer to 8-4 then 4-8 my opinion 7-5. GO VAWLS
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We lost a lot on Defense. Let's hope somehow that our D is better than last year. We are much improved at the skill positions, a lot more young talent and competition than last years squad. I would doubt that we have a walk on crack the 2 deep in the secondary this season.
 
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NotoriousB-I-G said:
He didn't? He was 19-4 in his first two seasons after inheriting a team on probabtion. Won the SEC in year two if not for their probation. His worst season at UF was 9-4. What do you call winning rifght away?
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It was even more "immediate" than that: UF went 7-5 in 1989. Spurrier came in and not only went 9-2 but also 6-1 in the SEC which was the best conference record that year and would've won UF the SEC title - in Spurrier's very 1st yr at UF - if UF wasn't on probation and therefore excluded from any SEC titles, bowl game appearances and therefore national titles. UT was 2nd at 5-1-1 but was awarded the SEC title in lieu of UF's probation...

The next year - Spurrier's 2nd at UF - he'd lead the Gators to an undefeated conference record of 7-0 and the SEC title. So yes, 19-4 overall, and 13-1 in SEC play. And the race was on....


Although ever since then Spurrier was always the first to state that he was left a loaded roster of talent from the Galen Hall regime, UF was 26-21 overall and 13-13 in conf. play the previous 4 seasons prior to Spurrier's hire.

terrypedigo said:
We have got SC beat before we take the field we have gotten in there head, just like the Gators have gotten in our head, we could be 0 and 11 and either beat them or the game would come down to a field goal, we can thank the old ball coach for that, when he was at Florida he had our number now the tables have turned.
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How can you say UT is in USC's head? USC won the previous 3 gms and 4 of previous 5 gms before last season. It was unquestionably the worst performance of the season for USC, and was on UT's home field where the Vols had a bye week to prepare and coming off the excitement of playing UGA close to a victory. And it came down to North making a miraculous catch and UT kicking the winning FG with 00's on the clock to win it.

Give props to North and UT though: he was defended about as perfectly as one could be, but the throw was perfectly placed and North held onto the ball. But the Vols had everything set up for them as much as it could be...
 
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Dave1967 said:
Spurrier has never had a losing season at USC and his worst was 2006 when they went 6-6 and that's the only season where they didn't go to a bowl game.
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It was 2007...USC went 8-5 in 2006. In 2007, USC was 6-1 at one point and ranked as high as 6th nationally, then collapsed and lost their final 5 gms.

2007 was a weird year for college FB that most have forgotten. It started with the season-opening gm between #2-ranked Michigan Wolverines hosting lowly FCS Appalachian State, and went downhill from there. Every week it seemed, a top-10 team was being upset by some un-ranked opponent they were favored by 30+ pts over. USC was probably more deserving of a top-20 or top-15 ranking, but shot up to #6 because so many teams above them were being upset every week. At one point that year, even Kentucky was ranked in the top 10...

By the end of the season, there were TONS of teams that were bowl eligible at 6-6 or 7-5....so that despite the fact that we have a 1,000 of bowls every year, CFB actually ran out of available bowls to host all the bowl-eligibly teams. In the SEC, USC finished tied with Alabama at 6-6. Bama had lost it's final 4 gms of the season. The final available bowl for the SEC - The Independence Bowl - chose Bama over USC because Bama was closer to Shreveport and had the larger traveling fanbase, and because USC had played in the Independence Bowl 2 yrs prior in 2005.

So despite being bowl eligible, USC had no bowl to play in that season. Although the way that season ended, IMO the Gamecock fanbase didn't think they deserved one...
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
We're going to be hot garbage if we don't throw the ball more effectively. Biggest question is still QB for me.
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Yup. Not gonna be much good if UT can't at least threaten with pass. Otherwise teams will just crowd the box and stop the run all day.
 
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MustafaRasta said:
sorry man, you're drinking Spurrier juice. It took him 6 seasons to reach double digit wins at USC jr. That's a program with 2 bowl wins and 3 winning seasons out of the 5 previous seasons before he arrived. He did a 1 game improvement year 1, managed to eek that up to 8 in his second year(Lou Holtz won 8 in his second year after going 0-11) and sunk back down to 6-6 in year 3. (Holtz won 9 in year 3) So pretty much he floated around par until his 7th year where he is now reeling off double digit wins consistently.

As for Duke he topped off at 8 wins and lost his only bowl game. Not exactly a world beater. I'd call Franklin's job at Vandy and Cut's job at Duke more than marginally better.
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Spurrier won at UF right away, that's what I was referencing. And he won the ACC at Duke. Minimize that all you want, but it hasn't been done before or since.

So some of you "Butch is Spurrier" dreamers seem to be hanging your hat in the fact that it took Spurrier a little longer to win at SC. Spurrier was 7 SEC titles and a national title deep before he even took the SC job.

Jones is averaging 5 losses a season in his 7 seasons as head coach at three different stops. By comparison, Spurrier is averaging 3 losses a seasons after 24 years at three different stops, with endless titles and Coach of the Year awards.

This Spurrier/Butch Jones comparison is absurd, and makes those making it sound like delusional idiots.
 
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ESPN gets it.

Butch is doing a nice job but this team still isn't anything more than bottom feeders on the league right now.

No set QB, no offensive line, unproven skill position talent on offense.

Year 3 of a bunch of mediocre dbs, turnover on the DL, and a solid but unspectacular group of LB's.

I bet half the fan base can't say who the kicker or punter is right now.

Expecting big things from this team this year is a fool's errand.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
spurrier did not start winning immediately.. while I do think he is a great coach.. and has done amazing work over his lifetime.. there is no need to exaggerate.. just sayin
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Spurrier won the SEC in his 1st year at FLA (no divisions then)
IN his 12 years at FLA, he never finished lower than 2nd in the SEC east
87-12 in the SEC overall

3 years to get Duke to 1st. Duke-the laughing stock.

1st year he got USCe to 2nd in the SEC east

Pretty quick to me.
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4-8

If this Bulletin Board material doesn't motivate the entire staff and team, nothing will, accept a new coaching staff and team. Go Vols
 
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CountVolcula said:
Chew on this for a second


If not for the upset of South Carolina, we would have been 4-8 last year
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And if the refs didnt call a ghost pass interference against Georgia, we might be 6-6


Btw that South Carolina game wouldve been in the bag a lot earlier in the game if Bajakian didnt get extremely conservative and let them come back
 
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utvolpj said:
you mean if we had lost a game instead of won it our 5-7 record would have gone to 4-8?

whoa, mind blown
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Should have added more

My point was that this team is no better than last year and it will likely take another upset to get us to 5-7
 
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triad280 said:
how many of those took over for the worst coach in their programs history? Butch's situation is totally different than those other coach's situations...
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Meyer took over for Zook who is more incompetent than Dooley ever thought of being. Richt replaced a series of unsuccessful coaches. Saban took over for Shula who was a major flop. Saban at LSU took over for Hallman then Dinardo two of the worst coaches the SEC has ever seen. Chizik? What program fires good coaches?

Dooley wasn't the man to lift the program out of the hole it was in. The program was no worse off and probably a little better when he left than when he arrived. That whole line of excuse for any failure now... is a FAIL.
 
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