Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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GroverCleveland said:
Huh? What?

How in the world did you draw this conclusion? Talking about TDS and yours is bordering on lunacy.
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The DOJ has to know the reaction things would create. The Trump "woe is me, I'm a victim" crap and rallying people to the notion it's partisan.

They would not go down this road unless, objectively, it was clearly a crime and clearly very, very serious.
 
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hog88 said:
I have a hard time believing that this was a setup by Trump but do believe that the documents in question are meaningless. There are mountains of classified material that the reasons for their classification are asinine, I'd bet the house Trump didn't have the nuclear codes, battle plans, codes or anything of real danger to the country if it got out.

The raid was purely political theater in an effort to keep Trump from running again (which I hope he does not) no way the director of the FBI or the AG approved such an unprecedented move without top cover from the big guy's handlers.
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I wouldn't put it past Trump to wave the red flag in front of them and what he had amounted to nothing which will create a bigger mess. I hope he doesn't run again. Flat out tired of the circus that surrounds him that will not get any better.

Sure they had cover. but Washington is getting so detached from the rest of the country. I really felt the "ruling class" thought they were firmly in control at the end of Obama's second term with the coronation of Hillary and believe that is why they (including a lot of RINOs) went absolutely over the edge with Trump's election. We messed up their game.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The DOJ has to know the reaction things would create. The Trump "woe is me, I'm a victim" crap and rallying people to the notion it's partisan.

They would not go down this road unless, objectively, it was clearly a crime and clearly very, very serious.
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Garland and Biden's handlers are either so out of touch with the public or simply don't DGAS. Keeping Trump from running again is their only goal.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I wouldn't put it past Trump to wave the red flag in front of them and what he had amounted to nothing which will create a bigger mess. I hope he doesn't run again. Flat out tired of the circus that surrounds him that will not get any better.

Sure they had cover. but Washington is getting so detached from the rest of the country. I really felt the "ruling class" thought they were firmly in control at the end of Obama's second term with the coronation of Hillary and believe that is why they (including a lot of RINOs) went absolutely over the edge with Trump's election. We messed up their game.
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No question about that. Since 2016 they have made it their mission to keep anyone not approved by the establishment from running for POTUS.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Imagine if Trump did that. LG would be losing his mind.
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If this turns out to be another nothing burger, LG will be convinced Trump spent his evening flushing all the incriminating evidence down the toilet. But never fear, the proof is just waiting over the horizon.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There is absolutely no way Trump is a sleaze ball criminal…
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Many agree with your assessment of Trump. Many disagree. My comment was directed toward the notion that the current warrant must have been obtained in a most virtuous manner. It may well have been. But it is hard to disregard the blatant corruption the FBI has previously in matters related to Trump. Unfortunately, the FBI no longer warrants (no pun intended) a presumption of truth, honesty, and even-handed enforcement of the law.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The DOJ has to know the reaction things would create. The Trump "woe is me, I'm a victim" crap and rallying people to the notion it's partisan.

They would not go down this road unless, objectively, it was clearly a crime and clearly very, very serious.
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Just like every other time...
 
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hog88 said:
Yeah, they won.
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In the minds of some…Just don’t look at actual history. Trump supporters, following the lead of Trump himself, practice revisionist history, where if they say something enough they believe it. Btw, the rebels lost in their attempt to break up the nation last time.
 
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Per Fox:

"To get a warrant, prosecutors would need probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and that the search would turn up evidence or fruits of the crime at the location of the search," said Robert Leider, an assistant professor at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University.

Given Trump's status as a former head of state, Attorney General Merrick Garland likely would have to approve the search warrant. The warrant would have had to specify what crimes they believed Trump had committed."

Wonder if such a warrant is public domain.
 
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It's time we finally make clear our criminal laws only apply to the poor and minorities. Unbelievable that the law applied to a rich white guy.

 
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MontyPython said:
Yeah.

I think the real issue we all face is that most of us are now slaves to our own silos of news. And in our own silo, we hear what we want to - not what is really both sides to a news story.

This situation has created the divide amongst us of even what basic facts are these days.
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I do think there are more people that would like to be sensible, but we've seen extremes develop from D.C. elected and unelected, and a media fueling the divide. An abandonment of the norms. Little did we know GWB would start us down this path with the Patriot Act. Without ethics in media reporting it will be tough to reverse course. It starts with stringent requirements on journalism and communications students. I don't think it will happen.
 
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hog88 said:
Garland and Biden's handlers are either so out of touch with the public or simply don't DGAS. Keeping Trump from running again is their only goal.
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LG is taking his trolling and idiocy to the next level. These are the same people that waged war on parents for voicing their concerns at school board meetings. They don’t give a damn about public opinion.

And the idea that the people within this administration, many whom believe men can menstruate and redefining the term Recession will prevent us from being in one, can look at anything objectively is comical.
 
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MontyPython said:
Per Fox:

"To get a warrant, prosecutors would need probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and that the search would turn up evidence or fruits of the crime at the location of the search," said Robert Leider, an assistant professor at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University.

Given Trump's status as a former head of state, Attorney General Merrick Garland likely would have to approve the search warrant. The warrant would have had to specify what crimes they believed Trump had committed."

Wonder if such a warrant is public domain.
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Can't wait until the warrant goes public.
 
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MontyPython said:
Per Fox:

"To get a warrant, prosecutors would need probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and that the search would turn up evidence or fruits of the crime at the location of the search," said Robert Leider, an assistant professor at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University.

Given Trump's status as a former head of state, Attorney General Merrick Garland likely would have to approve the search warrant. The warrant would have had to specify what crimes they believed Trump had committed."

Wonder if such a warrant is public domain.
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Trump has a copy of it. He is free to release it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The DOJ has to know the reaction things would create. The Trump "woe is me, I'm a victim" crap and rallying people to the notion it's partisan.

They would not go down this road unless, objectively, it was clearly a crime and clearly very, very serious.
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You have a lot more faith in the government that most
 
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