Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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Orangeslice13 said:
Those don’t matter any more that the attempt to prosecute him.
It’s all theater.
I’m way beyond ready to move on from the same old crap from both parties. But we will probably be stuck choosing between two 80 year old white guys…..again.


I’d lose my mind if we wound up with a fresh start.
Something like TulsiG vs Tim Scott.
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I'm really hoping Scott gets some momentum going. He's got my vote as of right now
 
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volfanhill said:
Oh I agree. I am just challenging people who shat on Barr and now want to claim he has weight. Can't do both
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I think one could reasonably think Barr was brought in as a yes-man and certain behaviors were too extreme for even someone brought in as a yes-man to overlook.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I think one could reasonably think Barr was brought in as a yes-man and certain behaviors were too extreme for even someone brought in as a yes-man to overlook.
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I was responding to @volfanhill and started to say “same with Johnathan Turley…”

Then I realized they’re not at all the same and it illustrated his point.

I don’t respect Turley’s opinion, even when we agree. It doesn’t make me change my mind, but I’m not about to start citing him as having any weight.

So I stand by what I said about there being a path to Barr’s opinion having some weight for people who didn’t care for him before, but you have to be willing to concede that he is at least a serious person to give it weight.
 
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Principled - Legal Mind Barometer:

Bill Barr:

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Merrick Garland:

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The restaurant where I had lunch today had the tv on. The whole time I was there, all they showed on the screen was an aerial shot of the courthouse. It was like watching paint dry.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I was responding to @volfanhill and started to say “same with Johnathan Turley…”

Then I realized they’re not at all the same and it illustrated his point.

I don’t respect Turley’s opinion, even when we agree. It doesn’t make me change my mind, but I’m not about to start citing him as having any weight.

So I stand by what I said about there being a path to Barr’s opinion having some weight for people who didn’t care for him before, but you have to be willing to concede that he is at least a serious person to give it weight.
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I'm not disagreeing with you.
 
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volfanhill said:
Have you always valued what Barr thinks or just now?
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I have never liked the guy.

The point of citing Barr, is that he can't reasonably be described as being a "Never Trumper" or a "RINO." Barr was nothing but subservient to Trump as Attorney General .... until Trump wanted him to publicly say that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged. So, there are lines that Barr won't cross for Trump, but whatever your opinion of William Barr may be, he is definitely not biased against Donald Trump.
 
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Vol since 77 said:
I'm really hoping Scott gets some momentum going. He's got my vote as of right now
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He’s an excellent choice and would be the first major party candidate I voted for since Clinton. (The last guy the opposition party treated like they now treat trump)
Honestly the Democrat tried would just label him the black face of white supremacy….or something else equally as stupid
 
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volfanhill said:
Oh I agree. I am just challenging people who shat on Barr and now want to claim he has weight. Can't do both
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Didn't like Barr then, don't like or quote him now.

But you know what he does prove? That Trump didn't bring the best and brightest people into his administration, he hired sycophants. He just wanted people who would tell him he's great and do whatever he wanted. His Presidency was crap because he hired crap. Barr is just proof.
 
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AM64 said:
Have you ever heard of a lawyer who would turn down big money? Lawyers don't go down with the ship; they just walk away with the green.
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Dude can barely find people who are willing to take his money (in the event he actually pays the bill).
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I believe it’s time for me to break out my “nothing is going to happen “ posts from the HRC threads.
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I chuckled, you just have to keep raising the bar. A lot has happened since those days and more will happen in the future. The results may or may not be what someone wants, but something will happen. Personally I wish all the Characters in this play would just go away and resign but they would be replaced by more idiots from both tribes.

Bottom line: This will be going on after the Presidential Election and beyond. Nobody will let this go and both sides will never agree on who is to blame or let go. Until we cut the extremes out of the equation.

Congress and the media needs to be reformatted like a hard drive. The American people are the ones paying for all this BS.
 
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Is there any other case in history where after finding out the govt was weaponized to go after one man, that people would only a few years later then believe that same govt acted in good faith to go after that same man again?
 
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volgr said:
Is there any other case in history where after finding out the govt was weaponized to go after one man, that people would only a few years later then believe that same govt acted in good faith to go after that same man again?
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Not sure and in history, the political climate was completely different, so you would have different results. In today's environment we get a play by play, in the 70's we get a week to 2 week update. I am not sure any network covered the Senate Hearings in full coverage. I was there at the time so I saw it first hand. Today it would be on full coverage by multiple outlets and detailed commentary.
So the answer is yes and no regarding the govt weaponizing to go after a man depends on how you view it.

For example, see Nixon and the potential Republican Senate Vote regarding his impeachment. Goldwater told him he was gonna to be impeached if he did not resign. In today's political climate, Nixon would have never resigned. Trump may get convicted but will eventually get pardoned by a Democrat or a Republican.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Not sure and in history the political climate was completely different, so you would have had a different result.
For example, see Nixon and the potential Republican Senate Vote regarding his impeachment. Goldwater told him he was gonna to be impeached if he did not resign. In today's political climate, Nixon would have never resigned. Trump may get convicted but will eventually get pardoned by a Democrat or a Republican.
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No chance he gets pardoned by a Democrat.
 
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