Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

[clarksvol00]

I refer you back to the HRC threads.
They’re exactly the same with the sides and arguments flipped.

with me saying “nothing is going to happen “ mixed in

I wasn't around for those, but I can only assume that my comment applies to those too.

 

[Septic]

Seriously??

Yes seriously.

 

[allvol123]

I don't gamble or share my Netflix password, but I'm curious as to the criteria you would apply to decide which laws we should or shouldn't enforce.

You’re missing the point. You have broken federal laws. I am confident of that.

We should have substantially less laws and enforce those. The criteria now appears to be….wield power and you can find the law broken by the person or people you dislike.

 

[BreatheUT]

Maganistas, what does this even mean?

This question is the reason why some people only deserve $12.50 per hour.

"Mr. Jones you got a first class package down here in the sweatbox."

 

[Orangeslice13]

I wasn't around for those, but I can only assume that my comment applies to those too.

Naw. You’d be saying the opposite of the things you say now

 

[Vol8188]

Seems to be an awful lot of speculation in this. What documents did Trump keep and did he declassified them before he became a former president?

I'm not sure what he kept nor have I speculated on it. Idk nor do you if he declassified it. Seems these questions should be answered before you get an FBI search warrant don't you think?

 

[clarksvol00]

You’re missing the point. You have broken federal laws. I am confident of that.

We should have substantially less laws and enforce those. The criteria now appears to be….wield power and you can find the law broken by the person or people you dislike.

What federal law have I broken?

 

[volinbham]

This board defended an FBI investigation into Hillary's emails two weeks before an election...

I don't recall there being an outcry about precedent and a bias in government when that happened.

not exactly how it went down. the investigation had happened considerably earlier and was public knowledge with announcement of findings of wrong doing but no intent to charge - what happened 2 weeks prior was the discovery of more emails from the investigation (I believe from Weiner's laptop that his wife used) and Comey was kind of in a rock/hard place about acknowledging it or not. Still there was considerable hand wringing about the appropriateness of his going public

 

[clarksvol00]

Naw. You’d be saying the opposite of the things you say now

Nah.

 

[VolStrom]

Is there a law against Netflix password sharing? I dumped that POS service 10 years ago, but I'm really curious.

 

[volinbham]

What federal law have I broken?

I can almost guarantee you've filed false tax returns if you've ever done the 1040 long form.

 

[clarksvol00]

I'm not sure what he kept nor have I speculated on it. Idk nor do you if he declassified it. Seems these questions should be answered before you get an FBI search warrant don't you think?

I think FBI needs to prove to a judge that they have probable cause to get a warrant and you and I don't have any idea what they presented as probable cause to get their warrant.

 

[Vol8188]

Are you conflating the media and partisan congressional narratives of "collusion" and what the DOJ found to be absolute fact, Russian interference?

I think folks like to shoehorn those two very distinct things together and hope no one notices.

Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III Makes Statement on Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election

Russian interference is a pretty low bar given it occurs in basically all US elections. The entire Steele dossier can be seen as Russian interference.

 

[zeppelin128]

on the topic of too many laws - this book is entertaining


Have you ever clogged a toilet in a national forest? That could get you six months in federal prison. Written a letter to a pirate? You might be looking at three years in the slammer. Leaving the country with too many nickels, drinking a beer on a bicycle in a national park, or importing a pregnant polar bear are all very real crimes, and this riotously funny, ridiculously entertaining, and fully illustrated book shows how just about anyone can become—or may already be—a federal criminal.

Funny is that this means some dude actually tried to import a pregnant polar bear. Lol

Is it Tennessee where you can be hanged for stealing a horse? A teacher told us that in high school, I wonder if it is still technically on the books.

 

[volinbham]

Is there a law against Netflix password sharing? I dumped that POS service 10 years ago, but I'm really curious.

I imagine it is considered theft by violation of the contract you signed saying you would not do it.

 

[Vol8188]

I think FBI needs to prove to a judge that they have probable cause to get a warrant and you and I don't have any idea what they presented as probable cause to get their warrant.

I know what they presented the time they got a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, Clinton campaign Russian disinformation.

So why should I trust them this time?

 

[hog88]

I agree with you that it's theater, but if they push this and a grand jury decides there is probable cause he violated a federal law, what do you think do you think should happen?

He should stand trial

 

[Orangeslice13]

Nah.

 

[clarksvol00]

He should stand trial

First direct answer to my question. I like it.

 

[zeppelin128]

The investigation happened 2 weeks before the election because of bias in government that drew tremendous public interest. The fbi knew about the email issue and had ignored it until the public outcry forced their hand.

Surely you remember that part right?

There was an investigation that concluded in Summer 2016, July if I remember correctly. They started a second investigation in late October.

I remember it well. And both investigations being vociferously defended on this board.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Ha. You don't argue or discuss. You just lash out like a 12 year old.

I don’t waste my time with folks that do what you do. I just barrel through. If you don’t like it sorry. But what I said is exactly what you do.

Extract Argue Tangent. That is what you do. It’s a one trick pony every freaking time.

 

[clarksvol00]

I know what they presented the time they got a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, Clinton campaign Russian disinformation.

So why should I trust them this time?

Your level of trust in the FBI is not my problem, it's not Donald Trump's problem, it's not the FBI's problem, it's not a grand jury's problem, it's not the problem of a judge who has to rule on the sufficiency of the warrant, and it's not a trial jury's problem. But so far we've had somebody grant this warrant knowing it is going to create a complete shitstorm.

 

[Vol8188]

There was an investigation that concluded in Summer 2016, July if I remember correctly. They started a second investigation in late October.

I remember it well. And birth investigations being vociferously defended on this board.

Yes. The second investigation started because of public outcry about the lack of an initial investigation. So if the FBI had acted in a non-partisan way and done their jobs initially, there would have been no investigation 2 weeks before the election.

So you're attempting to claim it was right wing bias on their part, but it was the opposite. The justice department's job is to uphold the law, they didn't in the case of Clinton. That's a simple fact. Now that another democrat is in office they're openly making statements against the supreme court.

The public has 0 confidence in them and 0 reason to have confidence in them.

 

[0nelilreb]

He should stand trial

Put him under oath , stick a camera in his face and let’s start asking some questions . I want to see just how fast the wheels of justice can grind to a halt . Lol

 

[RockyTop85]

I can almost guarantee you've filed false tax returns if you've ever done the 1040 long form.

That statute contains a culpability standard that is higher than negligence.