Film breakdown of JM's plays

[PreacherVol2]

Did Thornton play at all?

 

[LargeOrange1]

Do you think most QBs could? No. Hooker had a Heisman like season and you're putting him on a pedestal. There's no way he was going to put perform hooker.

I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere.

 

[NEO]

For the most part I agree but Keyton, Thornton are a complete disappointment and without those two playing .... of it they just do their job, Miltons stats look just a little better. They are all 3 a liability at this point. Milton isn’t going anywhere, so how about we see more of Nimrod and Webb along with using the TEs

Agree. I’d honestly even try being more of an option team and maybe even run two RB scheme. Our O can’t get much worse.

 

[How to Dooley]

Give me Gaston or Nico.

- Either one can pass for more than 100 yards
- Run OB on a free play and a 4th down
- Ran OB against Ole Miss in 2021 while the clock expires
- Terrible interceptions across the middle
- Easy routine over throws time and time again.

The lack of IQ has handicapped the passing O and playing calling.

 

[indian rick]

Just to help out with the conversation about JM.



"We do film study on every play from Joe Milton and the Tennessee Volunteers against the Texas A&M Aggies. Is Joe Milton to blame?"

~Bluechip Breakdown

IMO, JM has struggled at times, but he is not getting much help from his WRs. I would not bench him.

The Youtuber does a good job of breaking down Joe's plays. Worth the watch.

These guys do the best job of breaking down games I have seen so far. I enjoy their channel.

 

[EastTNVol423]

it's the low football IQ and lack of awareness for me....

 

[jarnol32]

Watching these receivers struggle to get separation, and then just flat out not catch the ball at times, I wonder if it was a smart move to let Walker Merrill transfer. He was one of Joe’s favorite targets during mop up duty last year, and ended up with 3 tds.

 

[KTrain]

Did Thornton play at all?

If you would watch this really good analysis of this game, you would see a pass hit Thornton in the Number 1 on his chest and carom off and be caught by #34 Castles for a substantial gain. He was also targeted again with fail.

 

[TCNC53]

As a whole they need to work on routes and catching Joe throwing them the ball all week

But, but, in the practice threads, it always said they looked great running ”routes on air….” Maybe if they would stop running routes on air and start running them on the damn field, they would get a lot better at catching balls that hit them right in the hands. But, that’s just me…. GBO

 

[Clutchman001]

How great would it be if we found out that the passing game play all year has been a part of CJH's master plan to ambush the cousin lovers in their own stadium, and "unleash the Kraken" that is JM's arm. So many balls hitting receiver's hands and dropped, that has to be the plan, right?

 

[lifeisdeep]

Played so well that he got drafted in the sixth round!

This is easily the dumbest post in the history of all message boards. It was his combine measurables that made him fall - he wasn’t fast in the forty, wasn’t muscular, etc. He was the starter his senior year at Michigan; he beat OSU that year in the regular season, then threw for 369 yards and four TDs to beat Bama in the Orange Bowl. He was 20-5 as the starter at Michigan.

Stupid, stupid post.

 

[barney]

Watching these receivers struggle to get separation, and then just flat out not catch the ball at times, I wonder if it was a smart move to let Walker Merrill transfer. He was one of Joe’s favorite targets during mop up duty last year, and ended up with 3 tds.

yeah wish we could have kept Walker. Our depth woulda been so much better this year.

 

[VolinWayne]

Just to help out with the conversation about JM.



"We do film study on every play from Joe Milton and the Tennessee Volunteers against the Texas A&M Aggies. Is Joe Milton to blame?"

~Bluechip Breakdown

IMO, JM has struggled at times, but he is not getting much help from his WRs. I would not bench him.

The Youtuber does a good job of breaking down Joe's plays. Worth the watch.

Thanks for posting this. He does an excellent breakdown of the passing plays and after watching that I've come to the conclusion that Joe's not quite as bad as I may have thought. It would certainly help if the refs would do their jobs and the receivers would start being dogs. We sure are going to miss Bru.

 

[Smokey7]

Think some of them wr's are afraid of his passes.

 

[VAVol85]

This is easily the dumbest post in the history of all message boards. It was his combine measurables that made him fall - he wasn’t fast in the forty, wasn’t muscular, etc. He was the starter his senior year at Michigan; he beat OSU that year in the regular season, then threw for 369 yards and four TDs to beat Bama in the Orange Bowl. He was 20-5 as the starter at Michigan.

Stupid, stupid post.

Relax...I am not insulting Brady. He is the goat. The question under discussion was whether great QBs had bad days in college. Brady did. He was not even initially a lock for the full-time role his senior year, though you might argue that was attributable to poor coaching decisions. If he was perfection in college he might have overcome his comical combine performance and gotten drafted earlier. The point of the discussion was that even great QBs are not obviously great all of the time from day one. Brady is the goat partly because he had his best performances when it mattered the most. And before anyone says it...no one is comparing Milton to Brady just making the case for not reading too much into a bad game.

 

[lifeisdeep]

Relax...I am not insulting Brady. He is the goat. The question under discussion was whether great QBs had bad days in college. Brady did. He was not even initially a lock for the full-time role his senior year, though you might argue that was attributable to poor coaching decisions. If he was perfection in college he might have overcome his comical combine performance and gotten drafted earlier. The point of the discussion was that even great QBs are not obviously great all of the time from day one. Brady is the goat partly because he had his best performances when it mattered the most. And before anyone says it...no one is comparing Milton to Brady just making the case for not reading too much into a bad game.

I was simply responding to the assertion that he was drafted in line with what he had shown in college, which he wasn’t. Trey Lance never for a second approached Brady’s college achievements but he got drafted in the top five because scouts fall in love with potential rather than results.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I was simply responding to the assertion that he was drafted in line with what he had shown in college, which he wasn’t. Trey Lance never for a second approached Brady’s college achievements but he got drafted in the top five because scouts fall in love with potential rather than results.

Actually at the time he was drafted accordingly. Not sure you know the game has changed to organizations wanting more mobile guys at the helm. That has as much to do with the speed of defenses as anything else. The problem with drafting on potential is that it increases the chances of a bust. As far as Lance is concerned, the 49ers obviously made a bad choice, BUT got rid of him while he's still on his first contract. It would be top shelf ignorance to criticize the management of that team. Of course, in your deluded mind, you know better

 

[BigALWiLson]

On the offsides in the first quarter resulting in a “free play,” he did not throw deep (1) and he scrambled out of bounds short of the first down before contact, when I think he could have made it (2). They ended up punting. On the 4th down try, he had the TE or FB wide open with his hands open demanding the ball late and he could have just hit him but held the ball and ran out of bounds or threw it away. These are plays that a D1 QB, especially one that has had 6 years of coaching and some playtime, should make yet he doesn’t. I think these are the things that bother most people (me too) about him. I could handle INT’s, they happen, but he has to make these plays.

While Im not disputing that Joe needs to play better as I agree. How do you justify wr's dropping the football when the ball is in their hands ? The whole passing game needs to be better and consistent. Not just Joe. Even on the worst day, these guys should be catching at minimal 70% of the passes they get 2 hands on. And every one of them where a defender isn't within 5 yards. No excuses for drops

 

[BigALWiLson]

Give me Gaston or Nico.

- Either one can pass for more than 100 yards
- Run OB on a free play and a 4th down
- Ran OB against Ole Miss in 2021 while the clock expires
- Terrible interceptions across the middle
- Easy routine over throws time and time again.

The lack of IQ has handicapped the passing O and playing calling.

The lack of Wr's hasn't helped.

 

[JRich]

While Im not disputing that Joe needs to play better as I agree. How do you justify wr's dropping the football when the ball is in their hands ? The whole passing game needs to be better and consistent. Not just Joe. Even on the worst day, these guys should be catching at minimal 70% of the passes they get 2 hands on. And every one of them where a defender isn't within 5 yards. No excuses for drops

There is no justification. I am very frustrated with the receivers as well.

Just pointing out that I think Joe would get more love if he just made some plays.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

I think Joe’s biggest problem may be hesitancy. It may be that with his arm strength, he was able to wait until receivers broke open in high school, and he’s never learned to put the ball in a spot and trust his guy to go get it. Loosen up and stop trying to play perfect…we’d all settle for “decent” at this point.

 

[BigALWiLson]

There is no justification. I am very frustrated with the receivers as well.

Just pointing out that I think Joe would get more love if he just made some plays.

Joe needs to make plays. However the plays he is executing they are dropping the football.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I think Joe’s biggest problem may be hesitancy. It may be that with his arm strength, he was able to wait until receivers broke open in high school, and he’s never learned to put the ball in a spot and trust his guy to go get it. Loosen up and stop trying to play perfect…we’d all settle for “decent” at this point.

I think you may be on to something with that. He has incredible arm strength and can put the ball about anywhere. Normal kids have to throw into a window, not sure Joe has ever really had to because of that arm.

 

[90 Vol]

How great would it be if we found out that the passing game play all year has been a part of CJH's master plan to ambush the cousin lovers in their own stadium, and "unleash the Kraken" that is JM's arm. So many balls hitting receiver's hands and dropped, that has to be the plan, right?

Yep! We've also been playing a vanilla offense so far. Just wait until Heupel opens up the playbook...

 

[lonelawyer]

We definitely don't have Hyatt or Tillman at receiver, but I'm not sure what's happened to Keyton. As far as Joe is concerned, he needs to trust what he sees and not wait so long on most of his passes.