Final 3?

#26
#26
OrangeSuspenders said:
You are right - Woolridge hasn't showed us much, YET. But his junior year is one full season and two offseasons worth of improvement away. Woolridge would have been redshirted if Prince didn't have a minor injury at the beginning of the year and thus, he wasn't supposed to show much this year anyways. But it is obvious the talent is there and the size is always nice. Also, he seems very level headed. I don't see how anyone could rule him out being a good or potentially great in his junior and senior years.

Hopson - I'm not saying you are right or wrong. And I would have been fine with it if you said "I think Hopson will....." but instead you insisted "I know Hopson will...."
Everyone has their opinions and yours may or may not be right, but in this case, no one, not even Scotty, is sure of what he is going to do at this moment.
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People told some posters on here the same thing when they said Hopson wasn't one and done.
 
#27
#27
emainvol said:
No, I wasn't referring to shooting guard options.

You are right, I completely left Kenny Hall out. The frontcourt will still be dreadfully devoid of real talent.

Do you really think Crawford can play the point in a major conference? That's the only way I think UT should take him.
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Then what did you mean? That is the only thing I could see that statement referring to.

How is Hall and Negedu lacking talent? Both were four star recruits who look very promising. Also, you have to include whatever posts Bruce adds in the 2010 class.

And no, Crawford is a SG and UT should take him as such. We took Golden as a PG.
 
#28
#28
Woolridge talented and levelheaded? Wow. What's the skillset? Have you seen the rap?

Hopson is talented, but until his mental game moves and he shows serious effort, he's a Vol, which is good for us.
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#30
#30
BigPapaVol said:
Woolridge talented and levelheaded? Wow. What's the skillset? Have you seen the rap?

Hopson is talented, but until his mental game moves and he shows serious effort, he's a Vol, which is good for us.
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:lolabove:

Did you just compare his game on the court with his raps??

And yes, Woolridge is very talented. You can be talented and physically immature at the same time....
 
#31
#31
OrangeSuspenders said:
:lolabove:

Did you just compare his game on the court with his raps??

And yes, Woolridge is very talented. You can be talented and physically immature at the same time....
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No. The rap showed how levelheaded he isnt and I asked what skillset you're referring to in labeling him talented.

He can't defend, rebound, drive, handle or shoot. Other than that, he's a monster.

Given today's year round big competition AAU game and the fact that he is clearly already physically developed, what on earth makes you think he's going to magically transform. Freshmen aren't what they used to be. It's why Chism is still essentially who he was when he arrived.
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#32
#32
OrangeSuspenders said:
:lolabove:

Did you just compare his game on the court with his raps??

And yes, Woolridge is very talented. You can be talented and physically immature at the same time....
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Physically immature. His only strength is physical maturity.
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#35
#35
I'm pretty certain that a school can only sign 5 scholly's in one year.
Scotty will have to blow up to go pro after this year. He might have a better chance next year being the number 1 scoring threat after Tyler leaves.
Woolridge can't even score, pass, or defend in the RT league, I can't see him playing any kind of significant role at UT.
We may not need another PG in this class, but that will all depend on how well Goins turns out. We can get another quality PG in 2011 . If Goins is a bust, then definitely a bad recruiting move not getting 2. We will know by the Spring signing class if we need another PG. I'm sure we can find another Ramar/Maze/Goins this spring if needed.
I wouldn't mind getting another shooter. As you can see from last year, you can't have enough of those.
Williams lost another 20 pounds, so I'm sure he will be all SEC this year.
We definitely need to sign a quality PF and C this class.
 
#37
#37
OrangeSuspenders said:
Then what did you mean? That is the only thing I could see that statement referring to.

How is Hall and Negedu lacking talent? Both were four star recruits who look very promising. Also, you have to include whatever posts Bruce adds in the 2010 class.

And no, Crawford is a SG and UT should take him as such. We took Golden as a PG.
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Hall and Negedu are two guys... no depth and no wing.
 
#39
#39
hatvol96 said:
Funny how that's becoming a trend at UT. Can't imagine what's causing that to happen.
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Yeah, funny in that it's total crap. Chism has clearly improved since his freshman year.

I know this is my first post here, but I have read this site for a while. I do know this is the place where it's cool to slag on Pearl and the Vols, while still proclaiming to be some kind of fan, a concept I've never understood.

So, yes, I'm kind of missing this "trend". You're telling me JuJuan Smith, Chris Lofton, Dane Bradshaw, Scotty Hopson and others have not improved? Totally disagree. Hell, even a player like Ryan Childress improved until his knee gave way.

Anyway, no, I don't believe Pearl is the second coming of John Wooden (He lacks Wooden's bagman, for one), but I certainly have seen player development from Pearl in his four years he's been in Knoxville.
 
#40
#40
Unimane said:
Yeah, funny in that it's total crap. Chism has clearly improved since his freshman year.

I know this is my first post here, but I have read this site for a while. I do know this is the place where it's cool to slag on Pearl and the Vols, while still proclaiming to be some kind of fan, a concept I've never understood.

So, yes, I'm kind of missing this "trend". You're telling me JuJuan Smith, Chris Lofton, Dane Bradshaw, Scotty Hopson and others have not improved? Totally disagree. Hell, even a player like Ryan Childress improved until his knee gave way.

Anyway, no, I don't believe Pearl is the second coming of John Wooden (He lacks Wooden's bagman, for one), but I certainly have seen player development from Pearl in his four years he's been in Knoxville.
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How has Hopson imroved (he has only been here one year, you know)? How has Chism improved. Where does Chi show any consistency or any player deceloent where we need it? Smith? Bradshaw? The spent limited time in this system and Bradshaw's game continued south while Smith thrived in the tempo and remained a streaky 3 point shooter.

What has happened with Tyler Smith? How about Ramar? Both went south?

I want Pearl to win, but pretending player development is a strength is silly.
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#41
#41
BigPapaVol said:
How has Hopson imroved (he has only been here one year, you know)? How has Chism improved. Where does Chi show any consistency or any player deceloent where we need it? Smith? Bradshaw? The spent limited time in this system and Bradshaw's game continued south while Smith thrived in the tempo and remained a streaky 3 point shooter.

What has happened with Tyler Smith? How about Ramar? Both went south?

I want Pearl to win, but pretending player development is a strength is silly.
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Hey, don't forget the development of Duke Crews and Cam Tatum. That's the epitome of coaching.
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#42
#42
Players do not get any better from their sophomore year going forward, in fact most get worse. They can put on muscle mass and improve their conditioning between freshman and sophomore year, but do not believe for a second when Hopson says he has focused on refining his 3 point shot. If you can shoot, you can shoot. Bottom line, if Pearl is able to press and run this year without being burned for layups coming back the other way like the beginning of last years season then this team will be top 10 again. If not expect about the same as last year.
 
#43
#43
hatvol96 said:
Hey, don't forget the development of Duke Crews and Cam Tatum. That's the epitome of coaching.
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You mean the guy who had a heart condition and missed about half his second season as well as the guy who has only played one year following a serious (actually two) knee injury?

Yeah, you really got me there.
 
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#44
#44
BigPapaVol said:
How has Hopson imroved (he has only been here one year, you know)? How has Chism improved. Where does Chi show any consistency or any player deceloent where we need it? Smith? Bradshaw? The spent limited time in this system and Bradshaw's game continued south while Smith thrived in the tempo and remained a streaky 3 point shooter.

What has happened with Tyler Smith? How about Ramar? Both went south?

I want Pearl to win, but pretending player development is a strength is silly.
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Bradshaw thrived in Pearl's system when healthy. And Smith spent 3 years under Pearl, going from a walk-on to All-Conference. How much time did he need in Pearl's system for Pearl to get credit?

Ramar loved the weed more than b-ball, nothing you can do there, except show him the door. Chism has shown lesser improvement than, say, a Smith, but he is clearly better on the low post and has developed into a solid player that, yes, has some issues with consistantcy, not unusual at the college level.

As far as Tyler, his outside shooting is better, but he's also a guy that has pretty much hit his ceiling. As far as Hopson, this year will demonstrate his progress, but he definitely became more comfortable and productive as the season wore on.
 
#45
#45
fromtheparkinglot said:
Players do not get any better from their sophomore year going forward, in fact most get worse. They can put on muscle mass and improve their conditioning between freshman and sophomore year, but do not believe for a second when Hopson says he has focused on refining his 3 point shot. If you can shoot, you can shoot. Bottom line, if Pearl is able to press and run this year without being burned for layups coming back the other way like the beginning of last years season then this team will be top 10 again. If not expect about the same as last year.
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It's not that Hopson can't shoot. It's just the arch he used to put on the ball was absurd.
 
#46
#46
Unimane said:
Bradshaw thrived in Pearl's system when healthy. And Smith spent 3 years under Pearl, going from a walk-on to All-Conference. How much time did he need in Pearl's system for Pearl to get credit?

Ramar loved the weed more than b-ball, nothing you can do there, except show him the door. Chism has shown lesser improvement than, say, a Smith, but he is clearly better on the low post and has developed into a solid player that, yes, has some issues with consistantcy, not unusual at the college level.

As far as Tyler, his outside shooting is better, but he's also a guy that has pretty much hit his ceiling. As far as Hopson, this year will demonstrate his progress, but he definitely became more comfortable and productive as the season wore on.
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The first sentence of your post is very helpful. It allows me to ignore anything else you ever post without fear of missing something insightful.
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#47
#47
Unimane said:
Bradshaw thrived in Pearl's system when healthy. And Smith spent 3 years under Pearl, going from a walk-on to All-Conference. How much time did he need in Pearl's system for Pearl to get credit?

Ramar loved the weed more than b-ball, nothing you can do there, except show him the door. Chism has shown lesser improvement than, say, a Smith, but he is clearly better on the low post and has developed into a solid player that, yes, has some issues with consistantcy, not unusual at the college level.

As far as Tyler, his outside shooting is better, but he's also a guy that has pretty much hit his ceiling. As far as Hopson, this year will demonstrate his progress, but he definitely became more comfortable and productive as the season wore on.
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For real? I guess Jordan Howell thrived too.
 
#49
#49
Hat, a few questions about Crawford and this class...

1) Can he play point at the D1 level?
2) Will he even qualify?
3) Is he worth a scholarship or are people still creaming over the two shots he made in Vegas?
4) Would continuing to pursue Vander Blue or hoping for good news on the Selby front be a better idea than signing Crawford?
5) How many frontcourt players should UT focus on in this class?
 
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