'24 FL CB Cai Bates (FSU Commit)

[MarcoVol]

Why do all the shady handlers always steer kids away from Tennessee? Can we get a couple of shady handlers on our side?

We were told shady handlers steered kids to other places during Pruitt’s tenure, too. Didn’t mesh with our staff full of upstanding individuals

 

[DaddyChad]

It sounds more like FSU is paying the handler directly (or something akin to that) from Eric's post.

Florida kid, Florida influences around him.

Martinez chatter imo is just an excuse.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Kid wants TN, he’s got a shady handler that’s making this muddy.

More of an old school recruiting deal than new age NIL deal and with our NCAA issues we have trouble right now playing in that world.

That’s all I can really say hope it makes sense.

Last I checked, the kid is making the decision. If he wants Tennessee, then choose it!

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Last I checked, the kid is making the decision. If he wants Tennessee, then choose it!

Thats not how it works when you're 18.

 

[MarcoVol]

It sounds more like FSU is paying the handler directly (or something akin to that) from Eric's post.

 

[DaddyChad]

Thats not how it works when you're 18.

That is how it works when you’re 18. It’s his choice. If he chooses to allow other people’s choices trump his own it’s his choice. If he truly wanted to be at Tennessee he would be here this weekend and figure out where he wants to be.

It’s FSU though at this point. Is what it is. Doesn’t matter if it’s his choice or if someone else is choosing for him. Completely nuttless choice this weekend though, he will fit in well in the ACC.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

That is how it works when you’re 18. It’s his choice. If he chooses to allow other people’s choices trump his own it’s his choice. If he truly wanted to be at Tennessee he would be here this weekend and figure out where he wants to be.

It’s FSU though at this point. Is what it is. Doesn’t matter if it’s his choice or if someone else is choosing for him. Completely nuttless choice this weekend though, he will fit in well in the ACC.

It’s really not that simple. If your family wants you to do something, it can be hard to tell them no. I imagine most people that have good relationships with their family wouldn’t want to potentially irreparably harm that by going against their wishes.

Family dynamics are different for everyone, and it’s never as simple as just “Hey, I am 18. I’ll do what I want. Screw you!”

There is also just the possibility that he likes FSU more than Tennessee. Wild concept. I know.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

That is how it works when you’re 18. It’s his choice. If he chooses to allow other people’s choices trump his own it’s his choice. If he truly wanted to be at Tennessee he would be here this weekend and figure out where he wants to be.

It’s FSU though at this point. Is what it is. Doesn’t matter if it’s his choice or if someone else is choosing for him. Completely nuttless choice this weekend though, he will fit in well in the ACC.

Nookie mentioned, but it's not.
Most likely his handler is someone he knows and trusts, his family lives in Florida I'm sure they want him closer to home. If he respects them he will do what they want wether it's what he wants or not.

 

[KptVFL]

Kid wants TN, he’s got a shady handler that’s making this muddy.

More of an old school recruiting deal than new age NIL deal and with our NCAA issues we have trouble right now playing in that world.

That’s all I can really say hope it makes sense.

Gotcha! Guessing that:

-he wants to get paid but doesn't want to do anything for it.... i.e. ads, commercials, meet and greets, etc.

-needs for his handler to get paid as well

 

[vol_in_ga]

Gotcha! Guessing that:

-he wants to get paid but doesn't want to do anything for it.... i.e. ads, commercials, meet and greets, etc.

-needs for his handler to get paid as well

You know what they say happens when you assume

 

[Jackcrevol]

Gotcha! Guessing that:

-he wants to get paid but doesn't want to do anything for it.... i.e. ads, commercials, meet and greets, etc.

-needs for his handler to get paid as well

Well, he'll enjoy Tallawhackee FL then.

 

[drvenner]

Well at least we can fire Martinez now, right?

Clearly, it's all his fault

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Clearly, it's all his fault

Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not but the performance of our DBs this year and our DB recruiting is in fact his fault, because that’s his job.

 

[DaddyChad]

Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not but the performance of our DBs this year and our DB recruiting is in fact his fault, because that’s his job.

Banks decides what coverage they’re in; he also coaches safeties…. Not defending martinez bc this has been an ongoing thing but seems like a lot of this is the coverage we’re in.

 

[KptVFL]

You know what they say happens when you assume

 

[drvenner]

Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not but the performance of our DBs this year and our DB recruiting is in fact his fault, because that’s his job.

I was being sarcastic and referring to this post.

Here is my prediction.

If he signs here, WM gets none of the credit.

If he doesn't come here, WM gets all the blame.

 

[NighthawkVol]

He literally wrote that he was here 2 weeks ago.

Right. Why is no one mentioning this? AP said, "Cai slipped into town two weeks ago but he wanted it quiet so we obliged."

So he just visited Tennessee again. That seems like a good thing.

 

[Lars]

There is also just the possibility that he likes FSU more than Tennessee. Wild concept. I know.

Not even remotely possible, IMO.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

Right. That’s why we have the best class of DB commits that we’ve had in the last 20 years in the 2024 class.

Name one, just one, that Martinez has developed since he's been here.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

Willie Martinez is a great recruiter Vols need to keep him at least another year.

Who cares if he can recruit if he can't develop?

 

[MarcoVol]

Name one, just one, that Martinez has developed since he's been here.

Kamal Hadden

 

[MemphisVol3]

Kamal Hadden

Yep...Could also add Theo Jackson, and improved Alontae's stock as well.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

Kamal Hadden

Somewhat debatable but I'll give that one to you. Another?

 

[MarcoVol]

Name one, just one, that Martinez has developed since he's been here.

Damn bro, move those goalposts!

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

Damn bro, move those goalposts!

Because it's debatable. Not sure I'm call him elite.