Florida vs. air

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#101
I can't speak for the accuracy of that with regard to this upcoming season but that's funny.

:)
 
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#103
I will say this. Anyone who thinks Florida will be down for long is hoping and not being realistic. They will be back eventually just like us. They also will have to build a roster first and hope their coach works out just like us. They have better resources than both Florida State and Miami.

That being said it will still be more difficult for Florida than in the past with FSU being hot right now.

I look forward to the days when the Florida vs Tennessee game was the biggest game in the east Every Single Year!
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
He made a terrible argument and an erroneous statement. When I called it out he became upset. It has been 15 years since all Florida schools ranked top ten at the same time. The landscape was different when they were.

Ultimately, a strong FSU hurts Florida significantly. If Miami gets their crap together it will become even more difficult.
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It's laughable to suggest the state of Florida can't support multiple national title contenders at the same time...or that an "up" FSU makes it significantly difficult for UF to be successful also.

It happened when UF, FSU and Miami all had the right coach. See the 90s and early 00s. The landscape hasn't changed, our demographics aren't changing.

Just because it hasn't happened in a while doesn't mean it won't happen again...take you guys being really good in football for instance. :)

It's all about who's in charge.

Recently, when UF had the right coach (Meyer), FSU did not (retiring Bowden). And when FSU's had the right coach, UF did not (Muschamp).
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
It's laughable to suggest the state of Florida can't support multiple national title contenders at the same time...or that an "up" FSU makes it significantly difficult for UF to be successful also.

It happened when UF, FSU and Miami all had the right coach. See the 90s and early 00s. The landscape hasn't changed, our demographics aren't changing.

Just because it hasn't happened in a while doesn't mean it won't happen again...take you guys being really good in football for instance. :)

It's all about who's in charge.

Recently, when UF had the right coach (Meyer), FSU did not (retiring Bowden). And when FSU's had the right coach, UF did not (Muschamp).
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I can see two but not all three.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I can see two but not all three.
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Thanks for the validation.

Over the past 30+ years you can point to the FSU-Miami game or UF-FSU game playing a direct role in the national title picture on at least eight occasions.

The Texas schools can't say that. The California schools can't say that.

Yet based on the misguided opinions of some here we are to believe that UF's football program is toast?

It's absolutely insane to suggest that UF is at some sort of major disadvantage, or in some sort of unrecovable competitive position because FSU is back to being a perennial national title contender.

It sure as hell didn't hurt FSU when Meyer nearly had us playing for three national titles over a four year span. If FSU can bounce back, so can we.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Thanks for the validation.

Over the past 30+ years you can point to the FSU-Miami game or UF-FSU game playing a direct role in the national title picture on at least eight occasions.

The Texas schools can't say that. The California schools can't say that.

Yet based on the misguided opinions of some here we are to believe that UF's football program is toast?

It's absolutely insane to suggest that UF is at some sort of major disadvantage, or in some sort of unrecovable competitive position because FSU is back to being a perennial national title contender.

It sure as hell didn't hurt FSU when Meyer nearly had us playing for three national titles over a four year span. If FSU can bounce back, so can we.
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you can do it!
 
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Forever151 said:
When was the last time all three Florida schools were all good at the same time
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It depends on your definition of "good".

In the late 90s/early 00s all three schools were legit national title contenders, which by anyone's definition is better than "good".
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Thanks for the validation.

Over the past 30+ years you can point to the FSU-Miami game or UF-FSU game playing a direct role in the national title picture on at least eight occasions.

The Texas schools can't say that. The California schools can't say that.

Yet based on the misguided opinions of some here we are to believe that UF's football program is toast?

It's absolutely insane to suggest that UF is at some sort of major disadvantage, or in some sort of unrecovable competitive position because FSU is back to being a perennial national title contender.

It sure as hell didn't hurt FSU when Meyer nearly had us playing for three national titles over a four year span. If FSU can bounce back, so can we.
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It's called and opinion. And yes, it surely did hurt FSU when Florida was good. FSU was a shadow of itself then and so was Miami.

BTW, who's saying Florida is dead? That's stupid. The path back might be more difficult but I don't think anyone actually believes you'll be down for good.

Of course, if you keep giving them the reaction they want the instigation is bound to continue.
 
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At the end of the day, it takes the right coach. We are quite optimistic that Butch is the right one. If McElwain is the right guy then FL will be back. If either of us is wrong then we may be an 8-9 win team consistently until that's not good enough (Zook, Fulmer) & they are pushed out in search of one that can compete for national titles. I think there are only about 10-20 of those guys in the country.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
It's easily the worst of the three when you factor in minimal support from the university's administration, apathetic alumni base and no facilities to speak of.
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Not when recruiting and amenities are considered. The administration will change soon enough as the boosters are at a point that they've had enough.

You're right about facilities though. They suck.
 
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99bubble said:
At the end of the day, it takes the right coach. We are quite optimistic that Butch is the right one. If McElwain is the right guy then FL will be back. If either of us is wrong then we may be an 8-9 win team consistently until that's not good enough (Zook, Fulmer) & they are pushed out in search of one that can compete for national titles. I think there are only about 10-20 of those guys in the country.
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Yep.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Not when recruiting and amenities are considered. The administration will change soon enough as the boosters are at a point that they've had enough.

You're right about facilities though. They suck.
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Their fan support sucks, and relative to UF and FSU their booster organization is an absolute joke.
 
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Looking at this Gators offense (which looks worse and worse all the time) How can the Gators realistically score enough points against Tennessee? I mean that O-Line looks like a worse dumpster fire than Tennessee's was last year, plus only one game breaker on offense (Robinson) and poor QB play? I mean come on!
 
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norrislakevol said:
Looking at this Gators offense (which looks worse and worse all the time) How can the Gators realistically score enough points against Tennessee? I mean that O-Line looks like a worse dumpster fire than Tennessee's was last year, plus only one game breaker on offense (Robinson) and poor QB play? I mean come on!
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Funny thing about the OL is UF is breaking in new guys so the jury is still out. UT is returning the majority of that train wreck.

#letsjustbehonest
 
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HialeahGator said:
Funny thing about the OL is UF is breaking in new guys so the jury is still out. UT is returning the majority of that train wreck.

#letsjustbehonest
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In fairness UT'S line last year had zero experience. I expect them to be a lot better this year.

We, on the other hand .... ugh.
 
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Why don't we all agree that our OL's are both question marks. I think both have a few studs and a bunch of freshmen and unknowns.

Like LG said, our OL at least improved as year went on and had game experience before entering offseason. I think it's safe to say we'll both lose a game or two we should win as a result of this.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
It's called and opinion. And yes, it surely did hurt FSU when Florida was good. FSU was a shadow of itself then and so was Miami.

BTW, who's saying Florida is dead? That's stupid. The path back might be more difficult but I don't think anyone actually believes you'll be down for good.

Of course, if you keep giving them the reaction they want the instigation is bound to continue.
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Wait, in the 90s?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Thanks for the validation.

Over the past 30+ years you can point to the FSU-Miami game or UF-FSU game playing a direct role in the national title picture on at least eight occasions.

The Texas schools can't say that. The California schools can't say that.

Yet based on the misguided opinions of some here we are to believe that UF's football program is toast?

It's absolutely insane to suggest that UF is at some sort of major disadvantage, or in some sort of unrecovable competitive position because FSU is back to being a perennial national title contender.

It sure as hell didn't hurt FSU when Meyer nearly had us playing for three national titles over a four year span. If FSU can bounce back, so can we.
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Are we just talking the biggest, brand name schools or all of them?
 
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