Football and Capitalism...

I think that just because someone hasn't quit isn't evidence of their contentedness with their pay. Chinese sweatshop workers keep showing up so they must like it.

I do believe that executives would act in their own best interest. And since they direct the company, I have no problem in believing they would act in such a way to increase their own incomes. I would furthermore, seriously doubt that they would act in a similar manner on behalf of employees (not that they should). But I think blind protectionism of Wal-Mart is as unreasonable as wild fantasies about nefarious Wal-Mart money making plots.

the average walmart worker isn't going to starve if they quit. hardly a similar situation. america is not rural china.

the shareholders own and direct the company. it is not in their best interests to pay unwarrented salaries to the executives.
 
i see and you find these to be comparable? violating 200 years of us bankruptcy law is the same as exposing a cia operative?

meh, there's nothing I'll be able to present that will equal the sheer horror of what this President has done. Trail of Tears? childplay. Jim Crow...get over it. I've agreed that this would be egregious if true.

Can you agree that this isn't the first, or the worst bad thing a president has done?
 
meh, there's nothing I'll be able to present that will equal the sheer horror of what this President has done. Trail of Tears? childplay. Jim Crow...get over it. I've agreed that this would be egregious if true.

Can you agree that this isn't the first, or the worst bad thing a president has done?

Heck yeah!

Woodrow Wilson will forever be the most vile/nefarious/freedom hating president this country will ever have!

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meh, there's nothing I'll be able to present that will equal the sheer horror of what this President has done. Trail of Tears? childplay. Jim Crow...get over it. I've agreed that this would be egregious if true.

Can you agree that this isn't the first, or the worst bad thing a president has done?

it's the worst thing any president has done and gotten away with in my lifetime. i don't think you realize how much a treat this kind of behavior is to the core of our economic system. if people can't rely on laws and contracts what can they rely on? why would they invest in anything?
 
it's the worst thing any president has done and gotten away with in my lifetime. i don't think you realize how much a treat this kind of behavior is to the core of our economic system. if people can't rely on laws and contracts what can they rely on? why would they invest in anything?

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I'm still angry thinking about Woodrow.........
 
yeah and I really don't care for it. Any argument about the current admin that turns into a "Bush did it too" is not a good one to me

There is no argument for the current admin that would be a good one to you. So I submit the question, when are we supposed to care about a President doing something illegal? Certainly not the last one...but the one before him? But certainly the one before him. I just don't see the outrage when this administration does the same things the last one did.

It's not an argument in defense of wrongful action. It's an indictment on inconsistency of judgement.
 
it's the worst thing any president has done and gotten away with in my lifetime. i don't think you realize how much a treat this kind of behavior is to the core of our economic system. if people can't rely on laws and contracts what can they rely on? why would they invest in anything?

I understand the economic impact. Should we have gone to war with Iraq? How many sources have been killed over the release of a field agents identity? I feel like loss of life is far more important than loss of money, though one may lead to the other, taken individually there is no comparison.
 
I understand the economic impact. Should we have gone to war with Iraq? How many sources have been killed over the release of a field agents identity? I feel like loss of life is far more important than loss of money, though one may lead to the other, taken individually there is no comparison.

No, makes you wish Algore was president......... then we wouldn't have had Bush or Obama.

Algore would have assured a republican congress and gov't would have been more effective with the checks and balances.
 
even in your ridiculous link it doesn't show a single thing that bush did that was illegal.

pretty sure I posted one for Clinton too. and it is illegal to knowingly reveal the name of a CIA agent. It is also illegal to circumvent the judicial branch in any case. It is illegal to torcher, it is illegal to hold an American citizen in custody with no charge, it is illegal to silence by intimidation or defamation, it is simply wrong to lie the United States into war.
 
There is no argument for the current admin that would be a good one to you. So I submit the question, when are we supposed to care about a President doing something illegal? Certainly not the last one...but the one before him? But certainly the one before him. I just don't see the outrage when this administration does the same things the last one did.

It's not an argument in defense of wrongful action. It's an indictment on inconsistency of judgement.

if it's illegal it should be dealt with. What were the crimes W himself committed?

you're probably going to make the common mistake around here that anyone who thinks Obama is terrible backs everything Bush did. It's not the case for the vast majority of posters
 
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pretty sure I posted one for Clinton too. and it is illegal to knowingly reveal the name of a CIA agent. It is also illegal to circumvent the judicial branch in any case. It is illegal to torcher, it is illegal to hold an American citizen in custody with no charge, it is illegal to silence by intimidation or defamation, it is simply wrong to lie the United States into war.

Media Matters.... is that you?

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I understand the economic impact. Should we have gone to war with Iraq? How many sources have been killed over the release of a field agents identity? I feel like loss of life is far more important than loss of money, though one may lead to the other, taken individually there is no comparison.

there is zero evidence of misconduct with the iraq war when it comes to bush and zero evidence bush authorized the release of that agents name. zero. obama commited his crime in front of everyone. you don't see the difference between one thing that is debatable and another that is done in the open?
 
if it's illegal it should be dealt with. What were the crimes W himself committed?

you're probably going to make the common mistake around here that anyone who thinks Obama is terrible backs everything Bush did. It's not the case for the vast majority of posters

no, no, I've learned that not everyone is polar from one another. But I have also learned that people are fairly resistant of one another. I simply haven't seen the same outrage for other outrages acts is all. I think that alot of people that think the President is terrible have thought so since he was elected, and wouldn't let it go if he cured cancer with his magical perpetual energy producing money tree.
 

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