For the Fire Fulmer Crowd

#76
#76
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 19, 2005 10:26 PM
That's what most of us are saying.
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That's right. Most of us are saying that. But many in that camp are dropping out because of Fulmer not acting when he should have. Inaction makes people question whether he can manage his own position. I'm willing to wait to see what is done as far as the rest of the staff, see who's hired, and see what changes happen with the attitude next year. But if Fulmer plays footsie here and leaves the staff change at just the OC and moves on the same path, he's probably going to have one more calling for his head on a platter....and we're talking a big helping of the poo poo platter at that.
 
#77
#77
Look . . . I can believe in giving CPF time to right the ship without being a sheep. I could just as easily say that the sheep are all the jackals that come out after every single loss and call for a coach to get canned.
 
#78
#78
Fulmer deserves 2 more years to turn it around. After that it will be a decade without an SEC championship and some pitiful bowl games where we got blown out.

I dont think Fulmer can turn it around though.
Losing the heart of the defense, the only real good players returning are Foster and a few DB's, Hefney, Wade, and DMO.
The sad thing is, next year is a rebuilding year losing half the starters on offense and defense, off a 5-6 year.
 
#79
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Originally posted by oklavol@Nov 19, 2005 9:30 PM
Fulmer deserves 2 more years to turn it around.  After that it will be a decade without an SEC championship and some pitiful bowl games where we got blown out.

I dont think Fulmer can turn it around though.
Losing the heart of the defense, the only real good players returning are Foster and a few DB's, Hefney, Wade, and DMO. 
The sad thing is, next year is a rebuilding year losing half the starters on offense and defense, off a 5-6 year.
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What is "turning it around"? Peach Bowl? Beating Vandy? Going to SEC C'ship game? I just think the prognosis is poor. I have not been impressed with Fulmer"s hires of assistants the past few years!!
 
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People like myself have gone to great lengths to dispell the myth that this is a new problem. That has been so hard to do until recently that we've had to sream it to be heard. Then, we usually get the typical response of "he's te winningest active..." horse manure speech.

My point is that while CPF deserves the right to get it turned, we were arguing for this a long time ago. Now he's wasted that time until we got so bad we lost to Vandy. So the clock has already started.
 
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 19, 2005 10:47 PM
So the clock has already started.
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Do you mean the clock counting down the self-destruct? I think the timer went off today.
 
#82
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Nov 19, 2005 11:36 PM
What is "turning it around"? Peach Bowl? Beating Vandy? Going to SEC C'ship game? I just think the prognosis is poor. I have not been impressed with Fulmer"s hires of assistants the past few years!!
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I agree with you, the expectations are dramatically lower. But UT has had only 2 HC in the last 27 years and counting. It takes a lot to get fired from UT as a HC. Thats why I think he's got 2 more years. But next year rebuilding the team, I just cant seem him winning a championship. The next year a little bit better and then Fulmer is probably forced to retire.
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 19, 2005 10:48 PM
Do you mean the clock counting down the self-destruct? I think the timer went off today.
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Well...that's one way to look at it. :biggrin2:
 
#84
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I wonder if Buzz Peterson will show up at the Kentucky game for moral support for Fulmer.
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Nov 19, 2005 6:03 PM
Honestly guys..the next coach will be a sacrificial lamb..you know what Fulmer can do..you dont know how far the next coach might pull the program down.

BTW who would want to coach at a Universtity that fires a coach for one bad yr outta 13? THis would be like Nebraska all over..you'd fall even further behind.
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Well it has not been just one bad year. Coach Fulmer has done a good job. "Good is the biggest enemy of great"
We have been a "also ran" ever since the 98 championship. Majors was fired for less.
 
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If MH comes out with a vote of confidence, I know things are getting really bad over there.
 
#87
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 19, 2005 9:47 PM
People like myself have gone to great lengths to dispell the myth that this is a new problem.  That has been so hard to do until recently that we've had to sream it to be heard.  Then, we usually get the typical response of "he's te winningest active..." horse manure speech.

My point is that while CPF deserves the right to get it turned, we were arguing for this a long time ago.  Now he's wasted that time until we got so bad we lost to Vandy.  So the clock has already started.
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Liper your genius is not fully apappreciated on this board yet, but it will one day my friend!
 
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:lol: I can't help but laugh at the irony. Alot of the people calling for Fulmer's head now are the same ones who were saying he should get a lifetime contract in the offseason :lol:
 
#90
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Originally posted by 21VOL@Nov 20, 2005 8:44 AM
if Phil got fired, i would like to have  Jeff Fisher
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Yeah, he's settin the world on fire with those Titans this year :lol:
 
#91
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Fisher is a good coach... but I don't know why he'd go down to the college ranks. If the Titans get rid of him for struggling through their post-salary cap destruction, I'm sure he'll latch on somewhere else in the NFL and be successful.
 
#93
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im going to be honest. i just want anyone who can just let the talent play out and have the team win it. not the strategy.

if you dont know what i mean i mean 2001 miami.

larry coker was a first eyar coach, im not even sure how much coaching he did. i just think he let the talent play out and they rolled over everyone. that is what happens when you have a lot of talent. just don't ruin it.
 
#94
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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Nov 20, 2005 7:51 AM
Yeah, he's settin the world on fire with those Titans this year  :lol:
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Let's hold out for Jon Gruden. I think he married a UT cheerleader from K'towm?
 
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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Nov 20, 2005 8:51 AM
Yeah, he's settin the world on fire with those Titans this year  :lol:
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Weren't you just making fun of people for being reactionary and making rash decisions?

I'd say Fisher's overall track record is pretty good.

The difference between he and Fulmer is that the Vols were picked to contend, while everyone knew the Titans were rebuilding.
 
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Nov 20, 2005 3:04 PM
Let's hold out for Jon Gruden. I think he married a UT cheerleader from K'towm?
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Jim Leavitt @ U. of South Florida is a hell of a football coach and an absolute competitor. They will be playing W. Virginia on 12/3/05, winner goes to the Sugar Bowl. He started from scratch to build that program. He kicked Petrino's ass earlier this year and came close to beating Penn State on the road. He is in the running for the K-State job. I would take him in a heart beat. He dosen't screw around, straight forward and doesn't make excuses. His teams are well coached and well prepared, they have to be for USF's program to have come as far as it has.
 
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 20, 2005 2:20 PM
Weren't you just making fun of people for being reactionary and making rash decisions?
]I'd say Fisher's overall track record is pretty good.
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I think so too. He's one of the best coaches in the nfl imo.

The difference between he and Fulmer is that the Vols were picked to contend, while everyone knew the Titans were rebuilding
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You're right, but I don't think anybody expected the Titans to be as bad as they are.​
 
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MyBlood,

I see. My bad.

I think coaches are always a little surprised when they're terrible. It's the nature of the competitor.

Norm Chow admitted that the NFL was a huge adjustment for him - bigger than he thought it would be.

Just from everything I've seen and heard, attacking NFL defenses is a while different deal than when USC is playing Cal.
 
#99
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 20, 2005 3:09 PM
MyBlood,

I see.  My bad.

I think coaches are always a little surprised when they're terrible.  It's the nature of the competitor.

Norm Chow admitted that the NFL was a huge adjustment for him - bigger than he thought it would be.

Just from everything I've seen and heard, attacking NFL defenses is a while different deal than when USC is playing Cal.
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I think sos found that out the hard way too. BTW, love the avatar. That's one of my favorite alltime movies. :thumbsup:
 
#100
#100
How about Rich Rodriguez? He is closing in on a BCS bid during what was supposed to be a rebuilding year for West Virginia. The Mountaineers are young and are really built for next season. He spreads the field on offense and has always had an athletic, mobil QB. The state of West Virginia generally has very little home-grown Division 1 prospects, which means WVU has to recruit elsewhere. As for Fulmer, he has done a lot for UT football. but the program has become stagnant and is falling behind the rest of the conference. Last season was a great surprise. Aside from being last year's Cinderella in the Eastern Division, the program has been spiralling downward since 2001.
 
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