Former Vols Sue NCAA

#76
#76
99gator said:
what would the proper amount of money be that would have been worth losing his arm?

either the people who participate accept that the activity is dangerous and participate anyway

or

you end the activity.

i'm tired of hearing how these people are being used. no one is being forced to do a damn thing.

it's why i agree totally with fade's post. people act as if the participants had no choice in the matter.
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Nobody told him he would potentially lose his arm. People just in the last few years are starting to realize how bad the long term effects of concussions actually are.

Football is going to go away as parents won't let their kids play with all the risks of permanent injuries. The rule changes are for the best in terms of long term health of the players. Not sure why somebody would be against that.

Or we can all just act tough. Certain plays have no business being in football now that we know the long term effects aren't good. Some safety laying out a defenseless receiver isn't hard nosed football it's simply a cheap shot.
 
#78
#78
Also, people are forgetting the players are the entertainment so they have the power.

If you have a job that you know is dangerous, why would you note negotiate for more protection?

If CFB and NFL don't do a better job of protecting their own then football will certainly go away.
 
#79
#79
Could add to the lawsuit a failure to monitor the programs fairly and equally across the board......
 
#80
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99gator said:
what would the proper amount of money be that would have been worth losing his arm?

either the people who participate accept that the activity is dangerous and participate anyway

or

you end the activity.

i'm tired of hearing how these people are being used. no one is being forced to do a damn thing.

it's why i agree totally with fade's post. people act as if the participants had no choice in the matter.
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if the players want their long term health to be taken care of when it is related to football fine. but i agree and i think the issue that i really have is there is absolutely no chance that with whatever information is presented that football players decide nah id rather pay for a college degree and work a regular job. knowing everything we know i would absolutely play football for a living if i could. who wouldnt?
 
#81
#81
Vols520 said:
Nobody told him he would potentially lose his arm. People just in the last few years are starting to realize how bad the long term effects of concussions actually are.

Football is going to go away as parents won't let their kids play with all the risks of permanent injuries. The rule changes are for the best in terms of long term health of the players. Not sure why somebody would be against that.

Or we can all just act tough. Certain plays have no business being in football now that we know the long term effects aren't good. Some safety laying out a defenseless receiver isn't hard nosed football it's simply a cheap shot.
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he didn't know he could lose an arm, but he did know he could be paralyzed correct?

it's one of the things that again is just wrong.

just to accept the premise....the sport was not dangerous because they were aware of 1,000 forms of injury, but weren't fully aware of 1 particular kind of injury.

the threat of paralysis did not keep him from the activity, but if they told him he might lose an arm one day, he would have thought twice.

read this article.

Dan Le Batard: Jason Taylor’s pain shows NFL’s world of hurt - Dan Le Batard - MiamiHerald.com

then, try to tell me if these guys have no clue that playing football might cause permanent damage.
 
#82
#82
What the hell can't u get sued fot these days. Every body is sue crazy if u look at someone the wrong way they sue u
 
#84
#84
He might be blaming the NCAA, but IMO he's making UT look bad. Who was responsible for monitoring his injuries to see if he was capable of playing? The team Docs at UT. Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.
 
#85
#85
I'm sure they were approached by some greedy lawyers who want to make a name for themselves and retire early.
Don't tell me if you were 28, struggling to find a career, support your family, etc, and you have physical/mental issues from football, that if someone came up and said you may be able to join a large group to sue and support your family for generations to come that you wouldn't consider it.

If anyone guarantees they would stay out of it, you are a fool and can't make that judgment about yourself until you are in that position. It's easy to look from the outside and type away at the keyboard judging others.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I'm sure they were approached by some greedy lawyers who want to make a name for themselves and retire early.
Don't tell me if you were 28, struggling to find a career, support your family, etc, and you have physical/mental issues from football, that if someone came up and said you may be able to join a large group to sue and support your family for generations to come that you wouldn't consider it.

If anyone guarantees they would stay out of it, you are a fool and can't make that judgment about yourself until you are in that position. It's easy to look from the outside and type away at the keyboard judging others.
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that's kind of the point though, isn't it?

right and wrong don't matter anymore.

it's how can i work the system to my advantage.

how can i collect disability even though i am not disabled?

who can i sue even if i bear responsibility for what's happened?

how can i use my race, sex, religion or whatever else available to me to get something i shouldn't?

whatever methods that are at one's disposal to screw someone else over is perfectly fine.
 
#87
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Vols520 said:
Nobody told him he would potentially lose his arm. People just in the last few years are starting to realize how bad the long term effects of concussions actually are.

Football is going to go away as parents won't let their kids play with all the risks of permanent injuries. The rule changes are for the best in terms of long term health of the players. Not sure why somebody would be against that.

Or we can all just act tough. Certain plays have no business being in football now that we know the long term effects aren't good. Some safety laying out a defenseless receiver isn't hard nosed football it's simply a cheap shot.
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Complete and total BS! We're just in the past few years learning SH**. Who filled your head with that complete utter nonesense? Soomeone recently wrote another story, so it must be new? Football, Boxing, Wrestlers ....and any other contact sport have known since pretty much the begnnings of each sport. We as fans have known too. It's why the players association for years has been trying to get the NFL to cough up money for disabled players.

Bottom line. It is a choice made by the indiviual. You want the money? You take the risk. If this lawsuit works, wait until all of us old military people find out. I'll be first in line to say "No one ever really told me, in a way I took seriously, there was a chance I could get hurt or have adverse long term affects".

SMDH at the way people want laws to fix everything, instead of people just using the sense the God SUPPOSEDLY gave them.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Complete and total BS! We're just in the past few years learning SH**. Who filled your head with that complete utter nonesense? Soomeone recently wrote another story, so it must be new? Football, Boxing, Wrestlers ....and any other contact sport have known since pretty much the begnnings of each sport. We as fans have known too. It's why the players association for years has been trying to get the NFL to cough up money for disabled players.

Bottom line. It is a choice made by the indiviual. You want the money? You take the risk. If this lawsuit works, wait until all of us old military people find out. I'll be first in line to say "No one ever really told me, in a way I took seriously, there was a chance I could get hurt or have adverse long term affects".

SMDH at the way people want laws to fix everything, instead of people just using the sense the God SUPPOSEDLY gave them.
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NCAA paid them?
 
#90
#90
BaldBiker said:
Complete and total BS! We're just in the past few years learning SH**. Who filled your head with that complete utter nonesense? Soomeone recently wrote another story, so it must be new? Football, Boxing, Wrestlers ....and any other contact sport have known since pretty much the begnnings of each sport. We as fans have known too. It's why the players association for years has been trying to get the NFL to cough up money for disabled players.

Bottom line. It is a choice made by the indiviual. You want the money? You take the risk. If this lawsuit works, wait until all of us old military people find out. I'll be first in line to say "No one ever really told me, in a way I took seriously, there was a chance I could get hurt or have adverse long term affects".

SMDH at the way people want laws to fix everything, instead of people just using the sense the God SUPPOSEDLY gave them.
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So you don't think the military should provide continuing care for injured soldiers even after they leave the service?

And just because lawyers are greedy doesn't mean the players are.
 
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#93
fade route said:
Enjoy football while we still have it. Bitter ex players who knew full well the physical consequences of playing D1 football, and now feel like the world owes them something are destroying the game - both pro and college - and these x players just don't care as long as they get paid somehow. Political correctness and our propensity as a modern day society to protect people from themselves will be the ultimate undoing of this great sport. Whatever happened to individual responsibility? Sad, really sad.
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With respect to the NFL, I agree. With respect to college football where they don't get paid and the schools make serious bank at their expense, I have a hard time with that.
 
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#94
#94
The NCAA has everything to gain and risks nothing, but it's the players who are greedy? Hmm.
You all are concerned that there will be no football in the near future but also act as if the players should know better than to play a dangerous sport.
Football can exist without the NCAA or NFL. It cannot exist without people to play the game. Why not take better care of the players instead of using that money to line the pockets of executives?
 
#95
#95
fade route said:
Enjoy football while we still have it. Bitter ex players who knew full well the physical consequences of playing D1 football, and now feel like the world owes them something are destroying the game - both pro and college - and these x players just don't care as long as they get paid somehow. Political correctness and our propensity as a modern day society to protect people from themselves will be the ultimate undoing of this great sport. Whatever happened to individual responsibility? Sad, really sad.
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Post of the year.
 
#96
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Vols520 said:
It's easier for the mouth-breathers on the board to spout off about accountability and football becoming soft.

Football isn't becoming soft, it simply has to adapt to survive. Too many former players can't walk, talk, etc.
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Football is becoming soft. Look at the NFL for an example of the future. When football players go to their first practice, they learn about concussions. Everything we do as humans has a consequence. These players got a free university education for their efforts. I would love one.
 
#99
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GAVol said:
Don't kid yourself. The schools get a significant ROI for that free tuition.
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ROI is Rate of return right? How many millions can you make with a masters degree? Education is worth more than people think it is if you get a useful degree.
 
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#100
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Vols520 said:
I see you care more about entertainment than the actual long term health of the players you root for.

Usually people who talk about football becoming soft never actually played at a high level.

My brothers best friend, a former top recruit at a top 3 program, had to have his arm amputated at 31 due to compounded shoulder injuries and surgeries.

I agree people sue too often, but half these kids are being used and then kicked to the curb. It's why they should be compensated more than a free education. It's a dangerous game and people are lining their pockets off of their performances.
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so as an ex marine if i volunteer to be taught how to kill n potentially live n some of the worst conditions possible then they actually ask me to perform does that give me the right ti sue the gov n say they didnt take precautions to protect me????


kind of stupid isnt it??? these guys play the game because they love it r counting on it make them rich n they know the danger just like marines do.. some make it home n some don't yes its sad but its the risk n lifestyle they chose.


its a money play because thier gravy train has run out...
 
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