Found out during worship yesterday....

#129
#129
IBlvNTmWrk said:
Someone (cough, cough) was complaining earlier that Christians try to group all Muslims as being the same...

I'm sure you meant to use the words "some" or "sometimes" in your sentence above.
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Prove me wrong. Own up to the loving all-creating God ordering the slaughtering of entire tribes.
 
#130
#130
IPorange said:
Prove me wrong. Own up to the loving all-creating God ordering the slaughtering of entire tribes.
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Yes he did.....then he sent his son to Earth.....you know what happened from there....he leaves that up to the individual now
 
#133
#133
I guess the trivial answer would be the culture of the inhabiting population was so horrendous and irreparable that utter destruction was the only means to get rid of its influence.

For example, it was standard practice for children to be sacrificed in fire to a deity named Molech (archaeological evidence supports this). That type of belief was inculcated into every aspect of their civilization, and there was no way to excise it without destroying the civilization with it, so that was what was done.

As if burning children to death in fire wasn't bad enough, they also performed numerous other horrendous acts, almost too many to enumerate here.

Notice, they not only destroyed the people, but the buildings in the cities too. The art and architecture, in and on the buildings, was similarly influential of their belief system, and as such needed to be destroyed.
 
#136
#136
OrangeEmpire said:
I guess the trivial answer would be the culture of the inhabiting population was so horrendous and irreparable that utter destruction was the only means to get rid of its influence.

For example, it was standard practice for children to be sacrificed in fire to a deity named Molech (archaeological evidence supports this). That type of belief was inculcated into every aspect of their civilization, and there was no way to excise it without destroying the civilization with it, so that was what was done.

As if burning children to death in fire wasn't bad enough, they also performed numerous other horrendous acts, almost too many to enumerate here.

Notice, they not only destroyed the people, but the buildings in the cities too. The art and architecture, in and on the buildings, was similarly influential of their belief system, and as such needed to be destroyed.
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The Canaanites sacrificed children, so the Israelites (ironically tracing their lineage back to a guy who was almost sacrificed by his father to God) had no choice but to slaughter everyone, children included...
 
#137
#137
IPorange said:
Prove me wrong. Own up to the loving all-creating God ordering the slaughtering of entire tribes.
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I'm not sure anyone, including me, has disagreed with you that there was violence in the Old Testament... so there's nothing for me to prove.

On the other hand, how about you answering a direct question (as RJD did)...

Do you really believe Christianity (i.e. the New Testament) promotes violence like the Qur'an?
 
#139
#139
IBlvNTmWrk said:
I'm not sure anyone, including me, has disagreed with you that there was violence in the Old Testament... so there's nothing for me to prove.

On the other hand, how about you answering a direct question (as RJD did)...

Do you really believe Christianity (i.e. the New Testament) promotes violence like the Qur'an?
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I don't believe the Quran promotes violence.
 
#140
#140
IPorange said:
The Canaanites sacrificed children, so the Israelites (ironically tracing their lineage back to a guy who was almost sacrificed by his father to God) had no choice but to slaughter everyone, children included...
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It is the best argument I can come up with as a human.

:eek:k:
 
#141
#141
IPorange said:
More than just sucks. It's unjust. That is an unjust and cruel God, and that fact doesn't just wash away with the series reboot (God goes viral) of the new testament.
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sorry you see it that way.....but, yes he did "reboot" the way he deals with us when he sent his son to die FOR us to be able to live
 
#146
#146
Time for the random bible thumper quran response.........

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic. Qur'an 2:191-193 and Qur'an 3:151 are some of many.

Unfortunately in Qur'an 5:51 Muslims are not to take Jews and the Christians for friends the allah god describes them as 'unjust people'. Concerning violence Qur'an 8:12 says "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
 
#149
#149
OrangeEmpire said:
Time for the random bible thumper quran response.........

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic. Qur'an 2:191-193 and Qur'an 3:151 are some of many.

Unfortunately in Qur'an 5:51 Muslims are not to take Jews and the Christians for friends the allah god describes them as 'unjust people'. Concerning violence Qur'an 8:12 says "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
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Actually the Qu'ran describes two types of jihad. One deals with personal spiritual struggle, the other deals with armed conflict.
 
#150
#150
IPorange said:
I don't believe the Quran promotes violence.
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:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

There you have it, OE. Perhaps you can help me understand his logic... 'cause I don't get it.

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);"
 
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