Fulmer debate extravaganza (merged)

[2ironVol]

Dude, from 95-99, they had the talent to win it all every season.

Hell, if florida hadn't been on the schedule, they may have played fir the title each of those years

Exactly, we had the talent, but at mid-season in each of those years, we were out of the national title picture save 1998.

That's not the manner in which the debate was started in comparison to Majors.

 

[whobethis16]

Making this argument is clearly indicative that you are in over your head in this debate. This is silly at best and extremely pathetic at worst.

1995??? Got beat 62-37 by Florida, no chance at NC
1997??? Got beat 33-20 by Florida, no chance at NC

YOu should move on . YOu're embarrassing yourself and the fanbase

1998 Orange Bowl featured #2 ranked Nebraska and #3 ranked Tennessee. As I said, if Tennessee beats. Nebraska, and whoever #1 was loses, Tennessee wins the national championship despite losing to Florida. Get your facts and numbers straight and then we will talk.

 

[whobethis16]

Making this argument is clearly indicative that you are in over your head in this debate. This is silly at best and extremely pathetic at worst.

1995??? Got beat 62-37 by Florida, no chance at NC
1997??? Got beat 33-20 by Florida, no chance at NC

YOu should move on . YOu're embarrassing yourself and the fanbase

1995 the Vols finished #2 in the country. Last time I checked that was being a contender.

 

[2ironVol]

Seeing how he was a first ballot Hall of Famer at his first head coaching job, it would not be shocking at all for him to win big again. With 30 years at one school however, at some point enough is simply enough. The time has passed. I don't see him coaching anywhere, ever again.

It wouldn't be shocking if he got a team that was already loaded with talent, like he did here. It would be shocking though, if he did it somewhere that needed rebuilding. He has never built or rebuilt anything and that is much of the reason as to why no one has come courting after he was FIRED here

 

[2ironVol]

1998 Orange Bowl featured #2 ranked Nebraska and #3 ranked Tennessee. As I said, if Tennessee beats. Nebraska, and whoever #1 was loses, Tennessee wins the national championship despite losing to Florida. Get your facts and numbers straight and then we will talk.

Get your facts straight. Those are pretty big "ifs" considering we had no chance at beating Nebraska AND we were #3 in only one poll going in to the bowl game.

Like I said, you're out of your league here. It would best serve you to quietly move on

 

[2ironVol]

1995 the Vols finished #2 in the country. Last time I checked that was being a contender.

:birgits_giggle: You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge

#3 in the final AP poll and they were never contenders after losing to Florida 62-37. That's a fact. Take your little boy arguments back to elementary school. You're in over your head

 

[whobethis16]

Get your facts straight. Those are pretty big "ifs" considering we had no chance at beating Nebraska AND we were #3 in only one poll going in to the bowl game.

Like I said, you're out of your league here. It would best serve you to quietly move on

Ifs don't matter. The point is they had a shot at the title those times whether you like it or not.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

This 2iron guy must be kidding. He really does know he has no argument? Right??

 

[2ironVol]

Ifs don't matter. The point is they had a shot at the title those times whether you like it or not.

It's not whether I like it or not, it's reality, Son! You're simply wrong and once again, out of your league.

1995: lost in third game to Florida 62-37 ELIMINATED FROM national title picture: FACT

1997: Lost in third game to Florida 33-20. Elimnated from national title race: FACT

Won it in 1998

In 2001, had we won as favorites in the SECCG game, then we would have played Miami for national title; Legimate claim

In reality, it was two times, winning it once.

 

[2ironVol]

This 2iron guy must be kidding. He really does know he has no argument? Right??

I presented my factual argument.

Then again, I am debating with members of our fanbase that are at a disadvantage, football knowledge wise.

What's your argument again.

Listen, DUMBASS, when you lose your third game to your biggest rival and get hammered in the loss, you aren't legimate contenders for the national championship. Arguing that becasue they finished #3 in the polls meant they were contenders is beyond ignorant. Sorry, those are facts and once again, you are way out of your league in this debate. YOu should STFU and stop embarrassing our fanbase

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Says the little boy without a clue :birgits_giggle:

Only a real clown would make the argument we had four legimate chances at a national championship because of talent. You're in over head, no doubt. Since your dumbarse brought it up, I will explain it to your dumbarse. We had more talent than everyone in the SEC and most everyone in the country from 1993-2002. I guess, with your low IQ logic, we had a chance at the national championship for all of those years.

What a ignorant clown you are :birgits_giggle:

Going 47-5 over a 5 year stretch would tend to indicate that you were at or near the top every year (i.e. championship). At least to normal humans, which you are obviously not. 2001 was clearly a team on the brink of a title. But carry on. Ignorance must truly be bliss. However you want it, you are losing. The coach you tried to run down just went first ballot on your dumb ass. That should have let you know you were on the wrong track (as I have been trying to do for a year). Guess there ain't no helpin' some folk.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

1998 Orange Bowl featured #2 ranked Nebraska and #3 ranked Tennessee. As I said, if Tennessee beats. Nebraska, and whoever #1 was loses, Tennessee wins the national championship despite losing to Florida. Get your facts and numbers straight and then we will talk.

This guy probably can't piss straight, so getting facts in order is a tall task. Good luck with that though. You will need it. 2iron is as dense as a rain forest.

 

[2ironVol]

Going 47-5 over a 5 year stretch would tend to indicate that you were at or near the top every year (i.e. championship).At least to normal humans, which you are obviously not. 2001 was clearly a team on the brink of a title. But carry on. Ignorance must truly be bliss. However you want it, you are losing. The coach you tried to run down just went first ballot on your dumb ass. That should have let you know you were on the wrong track (as I have been trying to do for a year). Guess there ain't no helpin' some folk.

If you could separate your arguments like an adult, I might take you seriously. I never stated Fulmer doesn't belong in the HOF, but it in no way suggests he should still be our coach.

AS far as the national championship contender argument goes, you change the tone to fit your dumb "little boy" argument. Certainly they had the talent to challenge.

Just generalize and lump it all into the same thing. That's what people do when in over their head and out of their league.
You calling someone much more informed than you ignorant is priceless :birgits_giggle:

I am sorry that I am right and you're wrong. That's life. Move on, little boy, it's the only way you will grow

 

[2ironVol]

This guy probably can't piss straight, so getting facts in order is a tall task. Good luck with that though. You will need it. 2iron is as dense as a rain forest.

:birgits_giggle:


Still forgot more on my worst day than you know on your best day. YOu haven't provided ANY FACTS that could possibly back up your embellishment of national title contenders under Fulmer

 

[99gator]

2iron.

In 1/98, if Tennessee beat Nebraska (they lost) and wash state beat Michigan, Tennessee is the 1997 national champion. Losing to Florida did not eliminate them.

Fact

 

[whobethis16]

2iron.

In 1/98, if Tennessee beat Nebraska (they lost) and wash state beat Michigan, Tennessee is the 1997 national champion. Losing to Florida did not eliminate them.

Fact

Thank you.

 

[2ironVol]

2iron.

In 1/98, if Tennessee beat Nebraska (they lost) and wash state beat Michigan, Tennessee is the 1997 national champion. Losing to Florida did not eliminate them.

Fact

Lots of ifs there, so, no, it is not a fact. We were pretty big underdogs to Nebraska and got blown out of the game by them. So, in essence, we were never good enough in 1997 to win the national championship anyway. This isn't running down Fulmer either. These were his best years, unfortunately, he the program slide under his watch and was consequently fired for it.


This is such a silly argument, I am almost embarrassed to be participating. :yes:

Still haven't seen anyone from the University of Fulmer explain why he could get such loaded roster and then leave one fractions of what he got in 1992. That's all I want to hear.

 

[whobethis16]

It's not whether I like it or not, it's reality, Son! You're simply wrong and once again, out of your league.

1995: lost in third game to Florida 62-37 ELIMINATED FROM national title picture: FACT

1997: Lost in third game to Florida 33-20. Elimnated from national title race: FACT

Won it in 1998

In 2001, had we won as favorites in the SECCG game, then we would have played Miami for national title; Legimate claim

In reality, it was two times, winning it once.

Obviously you are wrong, because only 2 outcomes affected Tennessee not winning the title in 97. And, yet again, since you have a reading comprehension problem, if the Vols did not choke against Florida in 95 (yes, choked) they most likely win it all. They were close despite losing to the Gators.

 

[99gator]

Lots of ifs there, so, no, it is not a fact. We were pretty big underdogs to Nebraska and got blown out of the game by them. So, in essence, we were never good enough in 1997 to win the national championship.


This is such a silly argument, I am almost embarrassed to be participating. :yes:

Dude, on the final day of the season, it was possible for Tennessee is to win a national title.

Call me crazy, but that's being in contention

 

[2ironVol]

Obviously you are wrong, because only 2 outcomes affected Tennessee not winning the title in 97. And, yet again, since you have a reading comprehension problem, if the Vols did not choke against Florida in 95 (yes, choked) they most likely win it all. They were close despite losing to the Gators.

No they weren't. The got beat 62-37. That's not a choke. It's getting your azz beat badly. After that game, they had no chance at the title.

I am done arguing with the mentally challenged

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

2iron.

In 1/98, if Tennessee beat Nebraska (they lost) and wash state beat Michigan, Tennessee is the 1997 national champion. Losing to Florida did not eliminate them.

Fact

Tennessee lost to Florida in 99 by a score of 23-21. The first BCS rankings that year had FSU number 1. UT was number 2 and Tech was 3. Losing to Florida did not cost us that year, either. The loss at Arkansas prevented a shot at a repeat title. You have never known what I know, let alone forgotten it. I am insulted. Child please.

 

[whobethis16]

Lots of ifs there, so, no, it is not a fact. We were pretty big underdogs to Nebraska and got blown out of the game by them. So, in essence, we were never good enough in 1997 to win the national championship anyway. This isn't running down Fulmer either. These were his best years, unfortunately, he the program slide under his watch and was consequently fired for it.


This is such a silly argument, I am almost embarrassed to be participating. :yes:

Still haven't seen anyone from the University of Fulmer explain why he could get such loaded roster and then leave one fractions of what he got in 1992. That's all I want to hear.

"Lots" of ifs? I see two. That's not ridiculous. It's not like how FSU backed into the title in 1998. But that happened, and even if they hadn't, they'd be considered contenders.

 

[whobethis16]

Tennessee lost to Florida in 99 by a score of 23-21. The first BCS rankings that year had FSU number 1. UT was number 2 and Tech was 3. Losing to Florida did not cost us that year, either. The loss at Arkansas prevented a shot at a repeat title. You have never known what I know, let alone forgotten it. I am insulted. Child please.

Wrong guy to quote, but I understand what you're saying.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

No they weren't. The got beat 62-37. That's not a choke. It's getting your azz beat badly. After that game, they had no chance at the title.

I am done arguing with the mentally challenged

Final 95 AP Poll 1) Nebraska 2) Florida 3) UT. Final 95 Coaches Poll 1) Nebraska 2) UT 3) Florida. Boy are you dumb.

 

[2ironVol]

Final 95 AP Poll 1) Nebraska 2) Florida 3) UT. Final 95 Coaches Poll 1) Nebraska 2) UT 3) Florida. Boy are you dumb.

Because I said after the Florida blowout loss, we didn't have a chance at the title? That was fact. So what that we were better than everyone else? We still didn't have a chance to win the national title after that hammering we took in Gainesville. Sorry, but that's not dumb, but 100% right. Sorry if you can't handle the truth

Once again little boy, I forgot more on my worst day than you will ever know on your BEST day.

I am done with it though. Some of you act like the HOF thing is validation of your opinions. That's fine

We're in the Dooley era now. Fulmer is NEVER coming back. I promise you