Fulmer debate extravaganza (merged)

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NEOCON said:
People... CPF backers and loyalist mainly....


can we please move on?

The guy got lucky.

He had a great DC, who was actually offered a job at a top SEC program after being let go, a great OC who was offered a job after he was let go, and players that broke records in the NFL like Manning and Lewis.


All you have to look at is the players he had in the 90's who are future NFL hall of famers and realize the guy never maximized the talent. Where are Spurriers QBs?


It is time to stop making the man seem like a better coach than he was. He won in the SEC when BAMA was down due to NCAA violations and such and the only other top team was Florida who he couldnt beat.

When other teams began playing well his record only got worse.

Let it go. All you have to look at is the fact that both his coordinators have jobs and he is still looking.

CPF was basically Dooley with a better staff and better players.
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Not that I totally disagree with what you're saying BUT....in the college game recruiting is a very big part of the equation and he did an excellent job....right up until he got complacent. The league was a fraction of what it is now and he did make his hay during that period....BUT...45-5 is still darn good......he deserves his praises, but he also deserves his share of criticisms...was he a good coach? Yes...a very good coach?....For a while he was...
 
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NEOCON said:
People... CPF backers and loyalist mainly....


can we please move on?

The guy got lucky.

He had a great DC, who was actually offered a job at a top SEC program after being let go, a great OC who was offered a job after he was let go, and players that broke records in the NFL like Manning and Lewis.


All you have to look at is the players he had in the 90's who are future NFL hall of famers and realize the guy never maximized the talent. Where are Spurriers QBs?


It is time to stop making the man seem like a better coach than he was. He won in the SEC when BAMA was down due to NCAA violations and such and the only other top team was Florida who he couldnt beat.

When other teams began playing well his record only got worse.

Let it go. All you have to look at is the fact that both his coordinators have jobs and he is still looking.

CPF was basically Dooley with a better staff and better players.
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Fulmer was only good because he was a great recruiter. When that started to go bad for him, he slowly descended to the bottom of the SEC and the nation in terms of prestige and in the wins column. Fulmer did win us a National Championship - I'll grant you that - but every do has its day. We need a big time coach to come in and win for us. I don't Derek Dooley can do it long term to be perfectly honest with you.
 
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TNGrad2012 said:
Fulmer was only good because he was a great recruiter. When that started to go bad for him, he slowly descended to the bottom of the SEC and the nation in terms of prestige and in the wins column. Fulmer did win us a National Championship - I'll grant you that - but every do has its day. We need a big time coach to come in and win for us. I don't Derek Dooley can do it long term to be perfectly honest with you.
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That's like saying Peyton is only good because he is a great passer.
 
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When this thing hit 10,000,
Can we all agree with the following :

Fulmer was an outstanding coach through 2004 (pick the year), after that he was not very good.
 
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Gramps said:
When this thing hit 10,000,
Can we all agree with the following :

Fulmer was an outstanding coach through 2004 (pick the year), after that he was not very good.
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If I am the 10,000th. I will agree with you that he is an outstanding coach.
 
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northknoxvol said:
2001 SEC Championship game
2004 SEC Championship game
2007 SEC Championship game

We lost but we still got there once every 3 years. Just getting to the game seems impossible right now.
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greatness at UT means getting to the SEC title game every now and then and losing??? I need a drink to refocus.
 
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