'17 GA ATH DeAngelo Gibbs

TBH, Kirby is destroying our staff right now in recruiting. This class as it is absolutely sucks. It's rated fairly high right now because of the sheer number of commits compared to every one else. In past years it would average out in the 20-25 range when all is said and done. People will probably think I'm crazy, but they may need to figure out a way to get someone on the staff after this season who can go into Georgia and do some serious damage like a Rodney Garner type.

This montrell i said last year kirby was gonna be a beast in recruiting and we need to find way to slow it down... i agree about coach that can kill it in ga recruiting but im not sure if anyone could make a dent rt now they are at a feverish high
 
5 wins, then 7 wins, then 9 wins. I'm not selling hope. I'm selling proven, clear improvement. Back to back bowl blowouts. My squad is right there. Literally a point away in these games. It's not hope. Its apparent and imo very sellable. The recruiting issue IMO is internal and the way it's being executed.

What do u think problem is internally just curious.....being serious....
 
I don't understand how so many people believe that if we win 10+ games, all of these elite guys that seem to be going elsewhere ATP, will suddenly be knocking down butch's door to commit.

Sure it'll help with some, but it won't just magically give us a top 5 class (like everyone said 17 would be after a mediocre class last year)


It will help some these elite 17 guys but i believe the 18 class is where we see it take off again if we win east maybe sec
 
whats Kirby gonna sell when they lose the first game against UNC in the Ga Dome? Thats gonna be a bad look and sets them up for a rough year.

I laugh my ass off if they did and unc is no slouch but uga despite all there whining is loaded with talent kirby is crying cause he doesnt have 3 deep across board at every position like bama. They have enough yslent win east period....qb will be their achilles hill that it in my opinion they r thin but good enoughon dline
 
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But Larry is not a confidant of Jones. This is hearsay - rumor. I'd say a lot of coaches would consider coaching in the NFL as "making it." Less work and often more money. Doesn't mean it will happen or that Jones would want to.

They're is no way Butch Jones becomes a head coach in the NFL next year. People were saying the same nonsense things about Sumlin a couple years ago. Think of the coaches who have gone from college to pro, they all had multiple titles and were consensus top 5 college coaches. Butch is many, many SEC and national titles away from that. All he's done is recruit well, which isn't even a part of NFL coaching.
 
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I still think these elite players are waiting to see if vols get over the hump because if we cant do it this year its going tell recruits alot.....if we cant do it this year then when. Alot of guys are taking this approach. They may be committed elsewhere holding there spot and will circle back around if we win big if not they will probably stay where they are i gues 6 to 7 if not 10 will be cycled out or will leave on there own but we have to win big

My question to that is...why aren't they waiting for UGA to "get over the hump" as wel? They've continued to fail at meeting expectations for a decade plus.
 
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They're is no way Butch Jones becomes a head coach in the NFL next year. People were saying the same nonsense things about Sumlin a couple years ago. Think of the coaches who have gone from college to pro, they all had multiple titles and were consensus top 5 college coaches. Butch is many, many SEC and national titles away from that. All he's done is recruit well, which isn't even a part of NFL coaching.

I just don't think he has the tools to succeed in the NFL. He has a lot of strengths, but those aren't the ones that translate well to NFL HC success.
 
They're is no way Butch Jones becomes a head coach in the NFL next year. People were saying the same nonsense things about Sumlin a couple years ago. Think of the coaches who have gone from college to pro, they all had multiple titles and were consensus top 5 college coaches. Butch is many, many SEC and national titles away from that. All he's done is recruit well, which isn't even a part of NFL coaching.

This ^^^. Winning the East one time does not get Butch to the League, not even close. It's comical that the post everyone is basing this on states that winning the division would create that possibility. This is ridiculous.

That said, I don't deny the possibility that even a hint of that rumor getting out could fuel negative recruiting IF that is widely believed to be Butch's ambition.
 
You kind of neutralized your own point there. The elite guys AREN'T waiting around, they are committing elsewhere. Elite guys typically don't need to commit somewhere to hold a spot. I don't think that's it at all.

Just because they commit to hold there spot doesnt mean they wont flip happens alot every year. That all im saying
 
My question to that is...why aren't they waiting for UGA to "get over the hump" as wel? They've continued to fail at meeting expectations for a decade plus.

Because they are where we were when butxh pulled in top 5 class and fact their head coach has like 5 national titles plus state of ga wants to go to uga for most part.
 
People complain we cant recruit tn then complain we cant recruit ga, when will they start complaining we cant recruit va? Im guessing Monday.
 
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We will need to tell ~15 current commits to leave in able to get to the top 5

Never happen, you can't kick 15 players to the curb. Backlash would be too much and would hurt recruiting for years. Talk about handing a silver platter to your opponents. 2-3 is the norm for most schools including Tn, heck, even if you double that, you are looking at 4-5 MAX.

Those who think that everyone will jump on board if Tn has a great season (and they should), the impact will be felt mostly next year, not this cycle (it could affect 2-3, again 4 Max).

Also, the premise is Tn doing well and no one else doing well. The schools Tn recruits against could do as well. Unless they pull an Auburn, not many will jump ship elsewhere. Heck, even AU could bounce back and have a good year. 5-7 new names perhaps, I'll go high and say 5-6 names drop off the list, those expecting an entirely new class aren't thinking it through.
 
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Never happen, you can't kick 15 players to the curb. Backlash would be too much and would hurt recruiting for years. Talk about handing a silver platter to your opponents. 2-3 is the norm for most schools including Tn, heck, even if you double that, you are looking at 4-5 MAX.

Those who think that everyone will jump on board if Tn has a great season (and they should), the impact will be felt mostly next year, not this cycle (it could affect 2-3, again 4 Max).

Also, the premise is Tn doing well and no one else doing well. The schools Tn recruits against could do as well. Unless they pull an Auburn, not many will jump ship elsewhere. Heck, even AU could bounce back and have a good year. 5-7 new names perhaps, I'll go high and say 5-6 names drop off the list, those expecting an entirely new class aren't thinking it through.

Top 15ish is possible. I've been saying it for awhile. Its going to take a significant boost in stars just to get top 15 come NSD. We could add Smith, Akers, Chandler, Moore, and Foster and still top 15 is not a sure thing. We would be losing Coleman, one LB commit, plus one more commitment.
 
Top 15ish is possible. I've been saying it for awhile. Its going to take a significant boost in stars just to get top 15 come NSD. We could add Smith, Akers, Chandler, Moore, and Foster and still top 15 is not a sure thing. We would be losing Coleman, one LB commit, plus one more commitment.

Top 15 isn't out of the question, even possible top 10 but some seem to think Tn is going to dump the class as it is now and have an entirely new set of guys committed. Highly ranked guys that should pick Tn are still on the board. All the ones you list should pick Tn except for Akers. If the NCAA does nothing, hard to feel good on Akers till the day he signed. Even under the microscope, I don't trust OM.
 
Top 15ish is possible. I've been saying it for awhile. Its going to take a significant boost in stars just to get top 15 come NSD. We could add Smith, Akers, Chandler, Moore, and Foster and still top 15 is not a sure thing. We would be losing Coleman, one LB commit, plus one more commitment.

Butch should have waited until later to start bringing in some of those low 3 star players. Filling up the class so early is going to come back to haunt him. We are around 30th on Rivals right now if you go by avg player ranking. We will need to land all those players you mentioned to make a move back to the top 15. Also need those high 3 stars to have great senior years and get a bump up.
 
Top 15 isn't out of the question, even possible top 10 but some seem to think Tn is going to dump the class as it is now and have an entirely new set of guys committed. Highly ranked guys that should pick Tn are still on the board. All the ones you list should pick Tn except for Akers. If the NCAA does nothing, hard to feel good on Akers till the day he signed. Even under the microscope, I don't trust OM.

Akers is the one from those I listed I feel least confident about. I'm also curious to see if Chandler commits before Cam does something, does he sour on UT.
 

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