'19 GA OLB Roman Harrison (Tennessee signee)

[Sleegro]

We will run a 4-2-5 about 80% of the time. Also whenever we run a 3/4 one lb is blitzing so it will be the same... slight adjustment

By that logic, every team runs the same defense with slight adjustments.

 

[k-sny-vol]

Looking at his Athleticism, He could be a TE even. I think he will eventually be an OLB for us though with our 3-4 and blitzing heavily off the edge. Similar to Darrell Taylor for us this year.

 

[bpalmer28]

Definitely worth a scholarship. Tons of upside. Coach em up Pruitt

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Looking at his Athleticism, He could be a TE even. I think he will eventually be an OLB for us though with our 3-4 and blitzing heavily off the edge. Similar to Darrell Taylor for us this year.

I think OLB as well.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

I don't know how you can say this kid isn't physically talented. He has SEC level size for an OLB and is strong enough to hold his own at nose tackle. If you believe his numbers he's an athletic freak. His weight room numbers compare well to some highly rated OL recruits in the class who are much bigger. And his vertical and 40 time would compete with a lot of DBs and running backs who are much smaller. He is raw and is playing out of position (which may speak to his competitive character) so yes he may be a little bit of a "reach". But physically and athletically I don't think you can say he's on a lower level than what those other schools are recruiting. The rest comes down to if you believe we have the coaches who can develop him.

With half the peoples opinions on here we won't ever have good players unless we only recruit 5* players..... This kid is a high 3 star who didn't camp much who will probably be a 4 star. Seems like a great get to me.

 

[butchna]

We will run a 4-2-5 about 80% of the time. Also whenever we run a 3/4 one lb is blitzing so it will be the same... slight adjustment

Just because you have them lined up a certain way doesn’t mean it’s the same scheme. The responsibilities of the 3 down linemen in a 3-4 is different than the 4 in a 4-3. Just facts. There are 4-3 DE’s that don’t fit as 3-4 OLB’s...namely Derek Barnett! So seeing 4 on the line and a nickel back and maintaining that we’re running the same weak azz shizz as last year, makes you look like a hack! And I know you’re better than that.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Welcome Aboard the Big Orange Train Roman!!!!!

Go VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations on Becoming a VFL!!!!


BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[LaagerVol]

I was excited when I saw this kid committed. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but it’s kind of odd to me that there has been so much consternation over it.

So he is a high 3 star? Good size, good production (out of position at that), elite athleticism for his size, high motor. What’s not to like?

There have been guys in the past that I’ve kinda scratched my head over, including the 18 class. Too small, too slow, myriad reasons. I don’t really see any of those types so far in this class.

 

[McGeesPub]

I'll take a CJP 3* before I take a Butch 3* all day, everyday, twice on Sunday, in all 50 states and 3 territories.

Nice optimistic take and all, but everyone was (wrongly) lauding Butch’s identification of 3 stars about 18 months ago. There is no way to know if this comparison is correct.

 

[LaagerVol]

Nice optimistic take and all, but everyone was (wrongly) lauding Butch’s identification of 3 stars about 18 months ago. There is no way to know if this comparison is correct.

There’s no way to know if it’s incorrect either, but how many national championship teams had butch been a part of?

 

[KnoxLandcruiser]

Can we all agree that Roman is a great name for a linebacker...cuz it is ya know

 

[McGeesPub]

There’s no way to know if it’s incorrect either, but how many national championship teams had butch been a part of?

Absolutely right, and none, because Butch was a terrible coach. But Pruitt didn’t exactly make his bones identifying 3 stars, so while the Great Butch vs. Pruitt 3 star debate has no definitive answer right now, the number of NCs each have probably isn’t the best argument when put into context.

 

[Sleegro]

Nice optimistic take and all, but everyone was (wrongly) lauding Butch’s identification of 3 stars about 18 months ago. There is no way to know if this comparison is correct.

Nice pessimistic take. Yeah I get it and yer not wrong that people said that about butch too. But just because it was wrong when said about butch doesn't mean it will be wrong about Pruitt. Yer right that there is no way to know. Some of us are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves us wrong. People on here were also talking smack about kirby at georgia before last season too and now there is no hope that we can ever compete with them again and the best we can ever hope for is second in the east. I'm just glad we get to find out soon. Thanks for always being there to try to tamper the excitement though. These little debates are fun even though nothing new is ever really said. You could copy and paste both sides of this argument into every 3 star thread.

Commitment,
excitement,
"this seems like a reach only a 3 star" ,
"I trust the coaches over sites",
"the same thing was said about butch and dooley",
"what about Sutton",
"they can't all be diamonds in the rough",
"he'll get bumped",
"they never get bumped",
"yer such a negavol",
"I don't do blind faith after the last coach", etc.

 

[Pacer92]

Can we all agree that Roman is a great name for a linebacker...cuz it is ya know

Bill Romanowski would agree..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This dude is a athletic freak that the coaching staff took one close look at and offered. I have seen way too many overrated/overhyped, yet under performing/athletically meh 4* busts to get upset about it, and second guess the staff. This dude has insane potential...



BOOM! 💣💥💣💥💣💥

 

[McGeesPub]

Nice pessimistic take. Yeah I get it and yer not wrong that people said that about butch too. But just because it was wrong when said about butch doesn't mean it will be wrong about Pruitt. Yer right that there is no way to know. Some of us are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves us wrong. People on here were also talking smack about kirby at georgia before last season too and now there is no hope that we can ever compete with them again and the best we can ever hope for is second in the east. I'm just glad we get to find out soon. Thanks for always being there to try to tamper the excitement though. These little debates are fun even though nothing new is ever really said. You could copy and paste both sides of this argument into every 3 star thread.

Commitment,
excitement,
"this seems like a reach only a 3 star" ,
"I trust the coaches over sites",
"the same thing was said about butch and dooley",
"what about Sutton",
"they can't all be diamonds in the rough",
"he'll get bumped",
"they never get bumped",
"yer such a negavol",
"I don't do blind faith after the last coach", etc.

Not really concerned about being a negavol. If the shoe fits, wear it and all.

But you’ve done a good job of summarizing the prevalent takes. Only thing is, if we can’t rehash for every recruit, summer would never turn to fall.

 

[LaagerVol]

Absolutely right, and none, because Butch was a terrible coach. But Pruitt didn’t exactly make his bones identifying 3 stars, so while the Great Butch vs. Pruitt 3 star debate has no definitive answer right now, the number of NCs each have probably isn’t the best argument when put into context.

Agreed that he hasn’t been having to identify a lot of 3 stars but the point is he DOES know what a high level football player looks like

 

[Sleegro]

Not really concerned about being a negavol. If the shoe fits, wear it and all.

But you’ve done a good job of summarizing the prevalent takes. Only thing is, if we can’t rehash for every recruit, summer would never turn to fall.

Oh I don't disagree with that. Just pointing it out. It's funny to me.

 

[Sleegro]

Absolutely right, and none, because Butch was a terrible coach. But Pruitt didn’t exactly make his bones identifying 3 stars, so while the Great Butch vs. Pruitt 3 star debate has no definitive answer right now, the number of NCs each have probably isn’t the best argument when put into context.

We always talked about a bama bump though. And we've already seen guys Pruitt recruited here in his short time get bumps. Jordan Young is the most extreme example but Lowe and Cox were both bumped to 4 stars on at least one site. I don't follow bama recruiting so I'm not sure, but it'd be interesting to see a list of what players Pruitt recruited were rated when he offered them and see how many ended up getting bumps. I wonder how many were unrated or 3 star when he offered them. It has seemed like places he's been tend to have their recruits have ratings bumps far more often than most schools. I don't know how you could even get that info though.

 

[RazzBury]

With half the peoples opinions on here we won't ever have good players unless we only recruit 5* players..... This kid is a high 3 star who didn't camp much who will probably be a 4 star. Seems like a great get to me.

You are correct. The thing about recruiting at the highest level is that somebody has to be the first. If you wait until a player's offer list is "impressive", you run the risk of being too far behind at the start.

This staff knows what good players look like. I trust them over a couple of guys on some website.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

You are correct. The thing about recruiting at the highest level is that somebody has to be the first. If you wait until a player's offer list is "impressive", you run the risk of being too far behind at the start.

This staff knows what good players look like. I trust them over a couple of guys on some website.

Yeah, see whichever recruiting guy it was that was quoted in this thread.... basically said he hadn't even heard of this kid until the beginning of June. Gave him an arbitrary ranking and couldn't bump it because it would mess up rankings across the board (or something). Then said he's going to go see him practice one day in August and give him a slight raise afterwards.

None of that gives much confidence into the reliability of rankings overall.

Bottom line is quality coaching staffs know what they're looking for, and do the best job at evaluating talent.

I mean think about it.... even well known recruits... you have Wanya and Darnell - big time recruits who have been on peoples radar years. You literally have 2-3 years of game film of kids. June 30th, it's Darnell as the #1 ranked OT and Wanya was 3rd or 4th. They go to a camp and DW has a bad day - then all of a sudden those 2-3 years of game film matter less and it's OMG Morris the best tackle in the nation!

A lot of times it feels like arrows move up or down to get clicks.

Rambling here but I'll just say I'm going to continue to give CJP and staff the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason not to. So if they want to give a 240lb kid with a 39" vertical and who can run a 4.6 a commitable offer, and he takes it, then I'm going to get excited.

 

[Vol Main]

:fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks:

:rock2::baloon::baloon::baloon::clapping::good!:​

 

[KBVol]

He said same "exact"?

But on this kid. What don't you like about a 250 lb kid who has a 39" vertical and a 4.6 40 (if accurate) and those weight lifting numbers?

If he's playing out of position for the good of his team then that could be the primary thing keeping his rating low. Or... he could be a dud. Either way, the measurables are there and I kind of like that he's willing to sacrifice his recruiting publicity to help his team.

1. Yes he did. Gotta recruit and sign our share of the same players Bama and UGA and other top programs are recruiting if we expect to start competing with Bama and UGA again.

2. Love his measurables, they’re off the chart. So I’m not specifically saying this ain’t a kid we should sign. What I’m saying is on balance, in general, overall as a rule, we’ve gotta be on par with the Bamas and OSUs of the world talent/recruiting wise if we’re ever gonna compete with those guys on Saturdays.....and it was Jeremy himself who said it, and it’s somethimg we all know, no mystery there.

3. It sure looks like the highly rated players that Bama recruits and signs tend to be far less likely to be duds at the end of the day than the “diamond in the rough” players, the multitude of “under the radar” players that we’ve signed over the last several years. One certainly has to allow for Butch’s utter ineptness in developing his roster, since he was a guy who couldn’t do much of anything with 2 star or 5 star players ....but empirically speaking almost without fail, the best programs in the country year in and year out, decade in and decade out, are the ones at or very near the top of the recruiting class rankings with great consistency.

Final thought, with all that being said, only a fool wouldn’t give Pruitt and this staff some latitude in year one with who they’re bringing in, despite how high they may or may not be rated on 247 and Rivals. As I’ve said many, many times, Pruitt “knows what it looks like”...he knows what championship teams and players look like and what characteristics they have and don’t have. I’m definitely with him and I feel much, much better about him than I did about Jones.......but I’ll feel a little bit better, a little more confident when we’re landing top 3-5 classes rather than top 12-15 classes, which is where I think we end up this year.

 

[Caleb59seal]

By that logic, every team runs the same defense with slight adjustments.

the most overrated debate is the 3-4 4-3 debate... regardless you are having 4 rushers, the same 4 rushers you get in a 4-2-5 and a 4-3... it’s just about angles and what “type” of guy you want... that’s why you will see is in a 3-3 3-4 4-2 4-3 2-4... Muschamp runs the same system that Saban and Kirby now us... they all got it from Saban... and by extension Belichick...

 

[Caleb59seal]

Just because you have them lined up a certain way doesn’t mean it’s the same scheme. The responsibilities of the 3 down linemen in a 3-4 is different than the 4 in a 4-3. Just facts. There are 4-3 DE’s that don’t fit as 3-4 OLB’s...namely Derek Barnett! So seeing 4 on the line and a nickel back and maintaining that we’re running the same weak azz shizz as last year, makes you look like a hack! And I know you’re better than that.

It’s not the same stuff as last year... there is stuff we are running now that Only about 3 or 4 teams in the country runs... the slight adjustment is just what body type do you want in those spots... whenever you watch us this year you will see those same OLB in a 3-4 bump up to a DE on the line... in a 4-2-5... what we line up in doesn’t really make the defense what it is... the defensive identity of a team comes from the techniques and scheme that it possesses...