'20 GA QB Harrison Bailey (UT SIGNEE)

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SSVol said:
So tired of the "I am an expert" schtick, while hiding behind anonymity.
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That's the internet.

And do you really believe everyone is good at their job anyway??

These people that are trying to will Harrison Bailey as the future savior of UT football by crying about his rankings, and discrediting QBs that have not even been a chance yet ( Maurer) are the ones NOT to be trusted.


They're just typical fans.
I'm not.

I was right about Gaurantano while Dobbs was still here.
And I'm right about Maurer now.
 
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LittleVol said:
One bad throw by a gunslinger.

Let's not mention he started 5 for 5 and led his squad to the 1st points of the game.
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I’m not saying he didn’t start off well. But the point of this argument is that @1vol8 was trying to blame this interception on the receiver Ramel Keyton.

I don’t care what QB would have thrown that ball. Keyton did everything he could at that moment to try and catch it, it was not Keyton’s fault it was the QBs fault it was intercepted.
 
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AaronUT said:
If you two knuckleheads don’t stop digging up illustrated research papers of our qb’s bad throws to prove your points...

Who needs to worry about other schools negative recruiting when you got this.
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Interesting observations by Bill Connely on JG in this article from yesterday:

"Guarantano pulled off Herbert-esque numbers despite living life with one of the worst run games imaginable.

Not even including sacks, 32.6% of Tennessee’s rushes were stuffed at or behind the line, worst in FBS. Only 41% of the carries gained at least 4 yards (119th). The Vols ran the ball constantly (and predictably) on early downs — their run rate was 64% on standard downs, nearly 5 percentage points higher than the national average — and all it produced were lots of second-and-11s and heavy pass rushes when Guarantano was looking to make up ground.

When he had time to pass, though, he did well. His passer rating was 152.0 on second downs and 150.4 on third downs with between 4 and 9 yards to go."

As myself and others have said many times, it's amazing how many of our fans think blocking is of no real significance in football. Here's the full article, which is not Tennessee centric, though the whole thing is good (the JG related info is point #9). Our 2019 season will rise or fall, largely based on the level of improvement from the OL.

What college football's craziest 2018 stats tell us about 2019
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I’m not saying he didn’t start off well. But the point of this argument is that @1vol8 was trying to blame this interception on the receiver Ramel Keyton.

I don’t care what QB would have thrown that ball. Keyton did everything he could at that moment to try and catch it, it was not Keyton’s fault it was the QBs fault it was intercepted.
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More the QBs fault, but Keyton absolutely could have made that play.
Maurer should have put it out there more. Comes with timing and chemistry.

Jennings would have made that play. Callaway and Palmer.

And Tank Johnson is a hell of a safety too.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I’m not saying he didn’t start off well. But the point of this argument is that @1vol8 was trying to blame this interception on the receiver Ramel Keyton.

I don’t care what QB would have thrown that ball. Keyton did everything he could at that moment to try and catch it, it was not Keyton’s fault it was the QBs fault it was intercepted.
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It’s just a difference in opinion. I don’t see the big deal.
 
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LittleVol said:
More the QBs fault, but Keyton absolutely could have made that play.
Maurer should have put it out there more. Comes with timing and chemistry.

Jennings would have made that play. Callaway and Palmer.

And Tank Johnson is a hell of a safety too.
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Thank you! My point in a whole!
 
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LittleVol said:
More the QBs fault, but Keyton absolutely could have made that play.
Maurer should have put it out there more. Comes with timing and chemistry.

Jennings would have made that play. Callaway and Palmer.

And Tank Johnson is a hell of a safety too.
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The issue with that play was the Safety undercutting the throw. Keyton did not see McCullough he was looking at the ball the whole time.

So as he was running full speed and back pedaling because he did a 180 he did not have the ability to high point the ball. With JM taking the undercut there was nothing that Keyton could do at that moment McCullough basically ripped it out of his hands.

Edit: you know what those individuals have that you listed that Keyton doesn’t have? Experience.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Interesting observations by Bill Connely on JG in this article from yesterday:

"Guarantano pulled off Herbert-esque numbers despite living life with one of the worst run games imaginable.

Not even including sacks, 32.6% of Tennessee’s rushes were stuffed at or behind the line, worst in FBS. Only 41% of the carries gained at least 4 yards (119th). The Vols ran the ball constantly (and predictably) on early downs — their run rate was 64% on standard downs, nearly 5 percentage points higher than the national average — and all it produced were lots of second-and-11s and heavy pass rushes when Guarantano was looking to make up ground.

When he had time to pass, though, he did well. His passer rating was 152.0 on second downs and 150.4 on third downs with between 4 and 9 yards to go."

As myself and others have said many times, it's amazing how many of our fans think blocking is of no real significance in football. Here's the full article, which is not Tennessee centric, though the whole thing is good (the JG related info is point #9). Our 2019 season will rise or fall, largely based on the level of improvement from the OL.

What college football's craziest 2018 stats tell us about 2019
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Justin Herbert 3200 yards 29 TDS 8 ints
Jarrett Gaurantano 1900 yds 12 tds....0 ints

Yeah...give me Gaurantano (Sky blue font)
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
The issue with that play was the Safety undercutting the throw. Keyton did not see McCullough he was looking at the ball the whole time.

So as he was running full speed and back pedaling because he did a 180 he did not have the ability to high point the ball. With JM taking the undercut there was nothing that Keyton could do at that moment McCullough basically ripped it out of his hands.

Edit: you know what those individuals have that you listed that Keyton doesn’t have? Experience.
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Keyton has made that play in high school.
It's just a regular back shoulder adjustment.
Do a pirouette and elevate to high point the ball. Be an athlete. Keyton...also thought he was going to get hit.

But again he was so open that Maurer just should have put it out in front.
 
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LittleVol said:
The other day.

And there should be no reason to compare them at all.

People just need to stop it.
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I ain't gonna argue with you, cause that's all you've been doing this week. But the whole point of the article was the disadvantages that JG had with our OL and Helton's play calling system. He was merely pointing out JG's potential with an improved OL and Chaney's offense. But, you know, ignore all that I guess.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I ain't gonna argue with you, cause that's all you've been doing this week. But the whole point of the article was the disadvantages that JG had with our OL and Helton's play calling system. He was merely pointing out JG's potential with an improved OL and Chaney's offense. But, you know, ignore all that I guess.
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And I was just pointing out the ACTUAL numbers!

People need to wake up!
 
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LittleVol said:
And I was just pointing out the ACTUAL numbers!

People need to wake up!
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
The issue with that play was the Safety undercutting the throw. Keyton did not see McCullough he was looking at the ball the whole time.

So as he was running full speed and back pedaling because he did a 180 he did not have the ability to high point the ball. With JM taking the undercut there was nothing that Keyton could do at that moment McCullough basically ripped it out of his hands.

Edit: you know what those individuals have that you listed that Keyton doesn’t have? Experience.
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Your bias is really showing now chizzle. You’re giving a pass to Keaton due to lack of experience KNOWING that he’s right. Calloway, Palmer or Jennings would’ve made that play while criticizing an inexperienced qb for what you call a bad throw? Ouch
 
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1vol8 said:
Your bias is really showing now chizzle. You’re giving a pass to Keaton due to lack of experience KNOWING that he’s right. Calloway, Palmer or Jennings would’ve made that play while criticizing an inexperienced qb for what you call a bad throw? Ouch
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Are you for real? I'm a cheerleader, love Maurer, and still am willing to admit that was a bad throw.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m not sure I agree with the narrative of HB having a bad O line. You dont get that highly ranked (13) as a team with a bad o line in the state of Georgia. Can’t convince me of that. I watched the game posted and did see a few occasions of missed blocks but overall it looked like “decent” protection against a blitz heavy d.
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I have Marietta season tickets and I can tell you we had one of the worst OL's in 7a last year.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
Are you for real? I'm a cheerleader, love Maurer, and still am willing to admit that was a bad throw.
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Let me explain because there are reasons I disagree. I’m not saying it couldn’t have been thrown better but I feel like knowing he can throw a football 70 yards, and he was able to set his feet on that particular throw, he threw it there (or in that manner) on purpose to give RK the best chance to win against a breaking safety. Makes sense to me. If you look at the still shots chizzle provided on the second picture you’ll see the angle of JM and a perfect opportunity for RK to do what he’s done so many times before and put his foot in the ground to gain position.
 
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