Game Thread: Lady Vols Vs LSU; Thurs Jan 9th ; Home game; 6:30 PM Eastern; SEC+ stream

[Voluble2]

Three fouls to give and they have no timeouts?!!! We gotta recognize stuff like that. Otherwise, very good game by the Lady Vols! Definitely top 10 team! No doubt about it after these last two games.

This is a very fair criticism. You can leave them as the one with .9 seconds to get off a shot.

That being said, I don't think we could play better defense on a possession than we did that one. Not sure I would roll the dice on doing it twice more w/o giving them an open look.

 

[VolBall09]

They had 20+ points in every quarter. Until we decide we’re going to defend we’re cooked against quality teams. Irritating. Kim’s been saying it since November. Players have to wake up and join the party.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

The only thing that’s clear is that your confidence in your knowledge far outstrips the actual quality of your “knowledge.”

So u like losing?

 

[RespectAPA]

I was curious if today and Oklahoma was just a sample size thing for Jewel Spear, but she has been negativ +/- in every single big game. All 3 SEC games, +FSU, +Iowa.

-6 against FSU
-8 against Iowa (10 point win, so the Vols were +18 while she was off the court)
-8 against Texas A&M (13 point win, so the Vols were +21 while she was off the court)
-10 against Oklahoma
-10 against LSU

At some point you just have to admit that, even with their 3 point shooting potential, if they're consistently net negativ to our scoring, then there are some serious issues in their game that you can't just ignore because they hit a lot of 3s.

 

[chuckiepoo]

We had fouls to give at the end. I wish we would’ve made Gilbert or any other LSU player earn it at the line. I didn’t have faith in our half court defense getting a stop.

A foul on the floor would have helped.

 

[Peas29]

The refs were horrible as well late in the game. Couldn’t get a foul called at all in the ladies favor.

 

[Volfan2012]

The sad thing is we proved we could rebound when we want to. We were down on the offensive boards by 8 after 15 minutes of the game and ended up just one down 16 to 15. How she is going to get this team to bring it for an entire game is her toughest job right now.

 

[VolBall09]

I was curious if today and Oklahoma was just a sample size thing for Jewel Spear, but she has been negativ +/- in every single big game. All 3 SEC games, +FSU, +Iowa.

-6 against FSU
-8 against Iowa (10 point win, so the Vols were +18 while she was off the court)
-8 against Texas A&M (13 point win, so the Vols were +21 while she was off the court)
-10 against Oklahoma
-10 against LSU

At some point you just have to admit that, even with their 3s, if they're consistently net negativ to our scoring, then there are some serious issues in their game that you can't just ignore because they hit a lot of 3s.

She can’t play D

 

[knoxvol52]

Slow starts have cost Lady Vols last two games.

 

[vol94]

You think that makes sense?

I think people are just frustrated and venting. It’s sad that our Lady Vols program has fallen off a cliff and been irrelevant for what, 10 years?

We have the right coach and from wha to read, she has a top recruiting class. Coach is installing her style of play so the Lady Vols will be a final four contender w/in 2-4 yrs.

 

[volfan__18]

I was curious if today and Oklahoma was just a sample size thing for Jewel Spear, but she has been negativ +/- in every single big game. All 3 SEC games, +FSU, +Iowa.

-6 against FSU
-8 against Iowa (10 point win, so the Vols were +18 while she was off the court)
-8 against Texas A&M (13 point win, so the Vols were +21 while she was off the court)
-10 against Oklahoma
-10 against LSU

At some point you just have to admit that, even with their 3s, if they're consistently net negativ to our scoring, then there are some serious issues in their game that you can't just ignore because they hit a lot of 3s.

And this is a GREAT example of why not to trust the +/-

 

[RespectAPA]

She can’t play D

Aye, and that's what I'm saying. I point out that she had a bad night in the +/-, and people go crazy because she scored 25 points: that's just totally ignoring how insane it is to score 25 points, and still be in the negatives in differential. It shouldn't happen, and it can only happen if you being on the court allows the defense to score significantly more easily on your team when you are on the court than when you're replaced.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

It makes a big difference in the net rankings etc... that the NCAA uses to seed teams.

It really sucks we couldn't pull off the win, but if we get the normal officiating that any other team in the country would get in its own gym then we win. The officiating wasn't bad overall, but it was the typical BS where LSU got a call that was wrong whenever they needed one to keep the lead.

It doesn't matter how good UT gets, we will never get those calls.

Either way, we will win these games when we start playing four quarters. Recruits can see how they would be the ones to make a difference in getting us over the hump so we have a lot to sell them.

I’m not sure it was intentional but I think the officials got it as close to an evenly called game as I’ve seen give or take a call here and there for both teams.
I believe UT is gaining respect from the officials when they put their head down and drive to the basket.
All the guards tonight were good at least at driving through the lane and making LSU defend.
We just must get better at finishing through contact.
Multiple missed layups around were the difference in the final score.
It’s coming full circle and magnifying the reason that Coach Caldwell is never satisfied.
Those empty possessions are literally the difference between two losses and in a perfect record with a Top 5-10 ranking.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

You think that makes sense?

Yes, if they can’t beat them 2 at home, what good teams u think they will beat?

 

[vol_smoothie]

Don’t understand-we had 2 fouls to give and could have caused them to regroup. LSU had no timeouts left.

Good point. As soon as the dribbler starts to approach the foul line area, you foul, then force another inbounds set with less time.
All around awful defense on the last possession. You do not allow the point guard to get all the way to the basket like that. The point defender did a good job, but there should have been some help, quick feet and some alertness should have produced an offensive foul on LSU. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb. Lady Vols can run and they can press, but they have to improve their half-court defensive fundamentals.

 

[volforlife15]

I was curious if today and Oklahoma was just a sample size thing for Jewel Spear, but she has been negativ +/- in every single big game. All 3 SEC games, +FSU, +Iowa.

-6 against FSU
-8 against Iowa (10 point win, so the Vols were +18 while she was off the court)
-8 against Texas A&M (13 point win, so the Vols were +21 while she was off the court)
-10 against Oklahoma
-10 against LSU

At some point you just have to admit that, even with their 3 point shooting potential, if they're consistently net negativ to our scoring, then there are some serious issues in their game that you can't just ignore because they hit a lot of 3s.

All this should tell you is that Kim probably needs to adjust her lineups

 

[LadyVols_WBK]

I wish we had Jewel for another year

 

[RespectAPA]

Yes, if they can’t beat them 2 at home, what good teams u think they will beat?

Who says we can't beat Oklahoma and LSU? We literally had the shot to win in the air against OU, and we were an impressiv last shot from LSU away from taking them to OT.

Just because we didn't doesn't mean we can't, lol.

 

[Volfan2012]

I have a winners mentality, because I hate losing. When u lose certain games it shows who u are. This is a middle of the pack Sec team. I’ve waited a while before I gave my assessment and now I have a good feel on who this team is.

We were picked to be a middle of the pack SEC team actually 7th.

 

[volforlife10]

I wish we had Jewel for another year

well welcome back !!!

 

[volforlife15]

I wish we had Jewel for another year

No way are you kidding me have you seen her +/-? Good riddance

 

[alexvol]

so u want to give her a 80% unguarded shot instead of a guarded driving layup?

I believe the LV's had two fouls to give and should have fouled her on her move to the basket and make them take it out of bounds again.

 

[ThatVolGuy]

So u like losing?

No no—you need to keep up. No deflecting.

I’m saying that you clearly think you have a grasp on things, but you (along with a few other frequent flyers) spew a bunch of knee-jerk keyboard diarrhea in these threads because you can’t handle disappointment with anything approaching maturity. Instead, you make ridiculous wide-sweeping claims because it’s easier to be mad than trying to find optimism inside your disappointment.

It’s exhausting. You need to grow up.

 

[chuckiepoo]

What exactly do you want to be “done” this season? Other than unrealistic expectations so you can complain when they aren’t reached

No Angel or juju, therefore we suck.

 

[TnVolsX4]

This is a very fair criticism. You can leave them as the one with .9 seconds to get off a shot.

That being said, I don't think we could play better defense on a possession than we did that one. Not sure I would roll the dice on doing it twice more w/o giving them an open look.

Coaching staff seems to be learning too. Gotta give the fouls there. Also didn't like Cooper coming out at the 2 minute mark in a one possession game with time outs left. What would jumper do?