Gas Prices Pass Record

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allvol123 said:
you are champ not me. keep listening to how great it is in the other countries.
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i'm waiting for you to explain why we should be so happy why we pay the highest health care costs in the world and highest gas prices ever. Why we should be so pleased.
 
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oklavol said:
i'm waiting for you to explain why we should be so happy why we pay the highest health care costs in the world and highest gas prices ever. Why we should be so pleased.
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Why should I not be pleased. Life seems pretty good in the US under the current system. I see tons of people with hobbies like golfing, hunting, travelling, boating, you name it. Why does it matter the cost, have you noticed the economy struggling? You tell me how expensive gas is? Apparently not expensive enough
 
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I am confused a bit', is he referring to the gas prices being the highest ever in this country, or we are paying the highest gas prices in the world?
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
I am confused a bit', is he referring to the gas prices being the highest ever in this country, or we are paying the highest gas prices in the world?
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gas prices are at record levels, aka they are reaching the highest prices they have ever been.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
I am confused a bit', is he referring to the gas prices being the highest ever in this country, or we are paying the highest gas prices in the world?
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The U.S. enjoys some of the lowest if not THE lowest gas prices in the world, even as we're setting new records for highest gas prices ever in the U.S. In England, for example, the last time I heard, they were paying somewhere between $6.00 and $7.00 a gallon (once converted to gallons - they actually purchase gas in liters over there).
 
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allvol123 said:
you are champ not me. keep listening to how great it is in the other countries.
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If the healthcare system in the U.S. is the best in the world its pretty sad commentary that a large % of the people in this country can't afford it.
 
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A large percentage can't afford health insurance? You sure about that? Or choose not to buy it? Are these the same people that consider cable and a cell phone more important?
 
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allvol123 said:
A large percentage can't afford health insurance? You sure about that? Or choose not to buy it? Are these the same people that consider cable and a cell phone more important?
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can't afford it. with other bills you know house, food, gas. little stuff like that. we don't need those though.
 
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Yea point me to that large percentage that have all those extras but then claim they can afford health insurance. You know cell, cable, name brand clothes.
 
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allvol123 said:
A large percentage can't afford health insurance? You sure about that? Or choose not to buy it? Are these the same people that consider cable and a cell phone more important?
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if they can afford it then why dont they buy health insurance? they like to live on the edge?
 
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champyvol said:
can't afford it. with other bills you know house, food, gas. little stuff like that. we don't need those though.
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You can't afford health insurance perhaps you need to adjust expenses. Smaller house, less gas, etc. you know use your money correctly. Not spend it like the government does.
 
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oklavol said:
if they can afford it then why dont they buy health insurance? they like to live on the edge?
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You tell me? Probably because they are too busy living in your world expecting the government to take care of everything.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yea point me to that large percentage that have all those extras but then claim they can afford health insurance. You know cell, cable, name brand clothes.
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the only thing you have to do is get out of the burbs and head into the cities. 600 to a grand for a month for a family of 3 is a joke no matter how you look at it. no matter what fantasyland your living in you have to know there are people that are worse off than you. they scrap by however they can. it's sad.:salute:
 
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oklavol said:
Maybe people would go into those fields who really wanted to help people and not to make a lot of money wouldn't that be a thought?

Are you working for the warm fuzzy feeling or for money? Why should they be different?

Most healthcare systems in the rest world are nationalized. You think Doctors in India are not as intelligent as the ones in the U.S.? That hasn't deterred the brightest people from entering the field in those countries.

Doctors in India make how much more than the average person in India? What is their life style compared to the average worker in India?

You poll the majority of Canadians they like their health care system. You poll the people in this country I think you might be surprised.
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Where are your cites on the Canadian and American health care polls? These aren't just your feelings are they?
 
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And as I said, walk into most of the poor souls homes and you will find cell, cable and a bunch of other unnecessary crap, meaning they have made choices on what is more important. Luxury items they have deemed to be more essential than healthcare.
 
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KentheOrange said:
Where are your cites on the Canadian and American health care polls? These aren't just your feelings are they?
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According to a Harris Poll of all industrial nations, Americans are the least satisfied with their health care.

An economic overview of America's system is: 42 million people are not covered, the various health care plans place rigid limitations on which doctors and hospitals people can use, cost-saving measures are forcing patients out of hospital beds prematurely, administrative costs are approaching 25% of the health care dollar, managed care is generally structured such that physicians have incentives to cut costs and gain revenue by withholding care, and many Americans live in fear of losing whatever care they have. Our current system is based on the power of the insurance industry to stifle any challenges from alternatives. They advocate a competitive environment where they set the rules. These rules give us health care at a very high cost with unusually high profits going to the health care industry and massive salaries going to the associated executives.
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Read the rest of it, very enlightening.

Single Payer Health Care System
 
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More from th same article:

Ongoing misinformation perpetuates myths about long wait times for care, availability of high-tech care, and the amount and quality of medical research done. There are very small differences between the U.S. and Canada in these three areas. The large differences between the U.S. and Canada are in the tens of millions of people with no coverage or inadequate coverage in the U.S. The differences are also in peoples' losing everything they have and becoming destitute to cover medical expenses in the U.S. They're in the lack of preventive care in the U.S. which results in expensive treatment of illnesses in their later stages.

Economic considerations are very important as are issues such as the general state of a country's health, the anxiety over health care and the level of satisfaction experienced by those in the health care industry. The economics certainly indicate that the Canadian approach should be observed and considered as a model for the U.S. The U.S. spends about $1000 per year per person more than does Canada. We have nothing to lose by giving it an objective analysis, seeking out both sides of the argument. It's worth a look.

According the Harris Poll of all industrial nations, Canadians are the most satisfied with their health care.
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That part you have in bold. Again, you realize people have the right to buy insurance, decide not to, then when something happens want to blame the insurance indsutry and government. Whose fault is it if you have no insurance or inadequate insurance?
 
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#221
The idea of capping doctor salaries at $120,000 is ridiculous. A good salesperson can make more than that with a 4 year undergrad degree or less education.

A doctor has to complete 10 years or more of college (foregoing income and paying high tuition). They then face incredible workplace liability and the insurance premiums that go with it. Finally, if they make a mistake in their job, it can cost someone their life. If I make a mistake in my job, that ain't happening.
 
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You don't realize that there are more than enough intelligent people willing to be doctors purely out of the kindness of their heart.
 
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volinbham said:
The idea of capping doctor salaries at $120,000 is ridiculous. A good salesperson can make more than that with a 4 year undergrad degree or less education.

A doctor has to complete 10 years or more of college (foregoing income and paying high tuition). They then face incredible workplace liability and the insurance premiums that go with it. Finally, if they make a mistake in their job, it can cost someone their life. If I make a mistake in my job, that ain't happening.
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yes we only want people getting into medicine because they want to make lots of money, not practice medicine and help people who are sick, but mainly to make money.
 
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