Geno Speaks

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Amb3096 said:
Normal town for the northeast, but considerably higher than whatever Georgia town she came from.
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Just like you, I have no idea what Moore's financial situation was but I do know this - CT is a very welfare friendly state. Or she may have been working at WalMart for all any of us know.

I'm still waiting for one of you insiders to offer any proof of any wrongdoing in the recruitment of Moore - outside of the one minor violation stemming from the ESPN visit.
 
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brassie said:
Just like you, I have no idea what Moore's financial situation was but I do know this - CT is a very welfare friendly state. Or she may have been working at WalMart for all any of us know.

I'm still waiting for one of you insiders to offer any proof of any wrongdoing in the recruitment of Moore - outside of the one minor violation stemming from the ESPN visit.
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Nobody will be able to provide proof unless you are in the UCONN cirlce or Tenn circle at that time. I will tell you this, Pat would never waste time or attention on it if their wasn't truth behind it. Pat fought to keep morals and ethics together in recruiting for women. She said it best
"I've never compromised at all, and I wouldn't. And if I did, they should fire me."

Pat never gave too much room for error, and no matter who the person was, if their was error, she pointed it out so it could be fixed. I back Pat and Tennessee on this, it's not up to them to share the evidence with the public, they turn it over to WBCA.

The truth is, UCONN fans say all they got was a "slap on the wrist". Well I say this, if you were not doing anything at all wrong, then NO PUNISHMENT would of came down at all.

In the end, Pat was right :)
 
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brassie said:
Just like you, I have no idea what Moore's financial situation was but I do know this - CT is a very welfare friendly state. Or she may have been working at WalMart for all any of us know.

I'm still waiting for one of you insiders to offer any proof of any wrongdoing in the recruitment of Moore - outside of the one minor violation stemming from the ESPN visit.
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From wikipedia

The median income for a household in the community was $76,000 and the median income for a family was $64,833. Males had a median income of $34,766 versus $23,229 for females. The per capita income for the CDP was $9,947. (Storrs, CT)

Lawrenceville, GA Income and Salaries. The income per capita is $18,856, which includes all adults and children. The median household income is $42,420.

That's a BIG difference, and I highly doubt she was making enough at WalMart to be able to travel with the team, attend Final Fours, and pay bills.
 
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mtsuraider06 said:
From wikipedia

The median income for a household in the community was $76,000 and the median income for a family was $64,833. Males had a median income of $34,766 versus $23,229 for females. The per capita income for the CDP was $9,947. (Storrs, CT)

Lawrenceville, GA Income and Salaries. The income per capita is $18,856, which includes all adults and children. The median household income is $42,420.

That's a BIG difference, and I highly doubt she was making enough at WalMart to be able to travel with the team, attend Final Fours, and pay bills.
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You know you bring up good points that I hadn't thought of before. I think both pat and geno knew that maya was a game changer while they were recruiting her. You know before maya came to uconn, their program had began to slide a bit as they had not been to a final four in several years, but things changed drastically for uconn when Moore came aboard and the momentum of her recruitment has continued to this day. So if geno did "pay" for moore's services, it's a huge deal because that one recruitment changed the entire landscape of wcbb and set uconn up to be an unbeatable team..it kind of reminds me of the cam newton situation where there were many allegations that his father was "shopping" his sons services around for huge sums if money, but in the end the NCAA found no evidence of any wrong doing. I guess things like this can be covered up really well. no paper trail=no proof. in the end, coach summit ended a very lucrative and rewarding series, so something major must have occurred in her eyes to warrant ending the series. Maybe someday we will know what really happened..
 
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Two things. First, I believe it was reported that Kathryn Moore was living in Hartford, CT. Second, the NCAA did, in fact, find that Cam Newton's father was "shopping" his services, but ruled that there was no proof that Cam knew or was directly involved, hence no adverse impact on his recruiting status. (Which I believe is in direct contravention to previous rulings.)

And, for brassie, I have noted several instances in the past where UConn fans on message boards (including the Boneyard) were willing to tar the SEC with the brush of violations for "purchasing " recruits when a player from a poor background showed up driving a new expensive car and showing off his bling. Is there significant difference between that and the situation with Ms Moore, or should those fans be required to show proof before speculating on a message board?

Jim
 
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CannonVol80 said:
Two things. First, I believe it was reported that Kathryn Moore was living in Hartford, CT. Second, the NCAA did, in fact, find that Cam Newton's father was "shopping" his services, but ruled that there was no proof that Cam knew or was directly involved, hence no adverse impact on his recruiting status. (Which I believe is in direct contravention to previous rulings.)

And, for brassie, I have noted several instances in the past where UConn fans on message boards (including the Boneyard) were willing to tar the SEC with the brush of violations for "purchasing " recruits when a player from a poor background showed up driving a new expensive car and showing off his bling. Is there significant difference between that and the situation with Ms Moore, or should those fans be required to show proof before speculating on a message board?

Jim
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Be careful, Cannon. The Boneyard is sensitive and you will hurt their collective feelings. I posted (or should say attempted) one time, something I would rank between innocuous and mildly complimentary towards Uconn, and it never showed up. Apparently unless you are willing rave over their "greatness" they don't want to approve it.

I'm not impressed by them...although the moderator called HuskyNan does keep a tight rein. The one time they started knocking a girl she came in very quickly and told them to stop, or the thread would be deleted and posters would be banned! More power to her for that.:salute:
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
Be careful, Cannon. The Boneyard is sensitive and you will hurt their collective feelings. I posted (or should say attempted) one time, something I would rank between innocuous and mildly complimentary towards Uconn, and it never showed up. Apparently unless you are willing rave over their "greatness" they don't want to approve it.

I'm not impressed by them...although the moderator called HuskyNan does keep a tight rein. The one time they started knocking a girl she came in very quickly and told them to stop, or the thread would be deleted and posters would be banned! More power to her for that.:salute:
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I called two of their posters out for just telling outright lies about coach summitt and having the nerve to drag a woman battling a horrible disease thru the mud.

Another thing, some of those uconn fans think Tennessee or coach summit should apologize, for what exactly I'm not sure. It seems to me that geno should apologize for one, committing a recruiting violation and two, for all the jabs, innuendos, and horrible things he said about summitt and the lady vol program thru the years. the guy has some nerve even suggesting coach summitt apologize. I'm still not exactly sure why the NCAA said using the espn studios to influence a recruits decision was only a minor violation.

The uconn fan base should feel incredibly blessed with all the success the team has had thru the years and they can owe a lot of that success to coach summitt, but yet some of them continue to act like winning 9 nc's and being an almost completely unbeatable team for many years isn't nearly enough to satisfy them...
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
I called two of their posters out for just telling outright lies about coach summitt and having the nerve to drag a woman battling a horrible disease thru the mud.

Another thing, some of those uconn fans think Tennessee or coach summit should apologize, for what exactly I'm not sure. It seems to me that geno should apologize for one, committing a recruiting violation and two, for all the jabs, innuendos, and horrible things he said about summitt and the lady vol program thru the years. the guy has some nerve even suggesting coach summitt apologize. I'm still not exactly sure why the NCAA said using the espn studios to influence a recruits decision was only a minor violation.

The uconn fan base should feel incredibly blessed with all the success the team has had thru the years and they can owe a lot of that success to coach summitt, but yet some of them continue to act like winning 9 nc's and being an almost completely unbeatable team for many years isn't nearly enough to satisfy them...
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It's a superiority complex that I will never understand. If they lose a game, they NEVER give props to the team that beat them. If they win, they belittle the team they just beat. What they don't seem to understand is that the only people who like watching their games are UConn fans. No other fanbase roots for them. No other fanbase wants them to win, because they don't win with class.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
I called two of their posters out for just telling outright lies about coach summitt and having the nerve to drag a woman battling a horrible disease thru the mud.

Another thing, some of those uconn fans think Tennessee or coach summit should apologize, for what exactly I'm not sure. It seems to me that geno should apologize for one, committing a recruiting violation and two, for all the jabs, innuendos, and horrible things he said about summitt and the lady vol program thru the years. the guy has some nerve even suggesting coach summitt apologize. I'm still not exactly sure why the NCAA said using the espn studios to influence a recruits decision was only a minor violation.

The uconn fan base should feel incredibly blessed with all the success the team has had thru the years and they can owe a lot of that success to coach summitt, but yet some of them continue to act like winning 9 nc's and being an almost completely unbeatable team for many years isn't nearly enough to satisfy them...
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He knows he is low class and is jealous of someone who is classy and respected throughout the world. Some people just can't appreciate greatness or someone being superior to them. They have to fall back on attacking them, trying to put them down, etc. Apparently many of the uconn fans are either the same as he, or just don't bother to listen to what he says. Some of it is cultural, what we see as actions that are less than manly and tacky is acceptable to them.

As for apologizing, Pat always followed the rules to the letter, was a gracious winner or loser, set the standards for the game, and called his hand when he fell short of minimum standards. Absolutely unacceptable behavior, she should have ignored the situation, continued playing him, although he was unethical, and NEVER mentioned it to anyone. So of course she should apologize for pointing out he is less than perfect...much less.

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slovog said:
First, I am a Lady Vol fan. Always have been. I hope we do NOT play this game until we get a new coach or the Holly learns to be one. Geno would LOVE to embarrass us on the court and show our irrelevance in women's basketball right now. With where things are, they would beat us by a minimum of 60. Please don't let him have that satisfaction.
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60 ? i highly doubt that,all it is,is ESPN wanting to have them play for the TV ratings anyway,which is what they are in business for, Ross is just doing what they were paid for,just trying to stir the pot :)
 
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I find this Lady Vol-UConn controversy as the perfect example of parochial thinking. If the same fans who are defending Geno were born in Knoxville or attended the U of Tennessee or moved close by for work early in the lives, the vast majority of them would be Lady Vol fans. The same goes with our fans if they moved to Connecticut to live/ work or attended the U of Connecticut. (Can you imagine Gule a huskie fan ??)
In a lot of ways, it's the same situation about religion. Most people are the same religion that their parents are. To a large extent, it is determined by your surroundings.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
I called two of their posters out for just telling outright lies about coach summitt and having the nerve to drag a woman battling a horrible disease thru the mud.

Another thing, some of those uconn fans think Tennessee or coach summit should apologize, for what exactly I'm not sure. It seems to me that geno should apologize for one, committing a recruiting violation and two, for all the jabs, innuendos, and horrible things he said about summitt and the lady vol program thru the years. the guy has some nerve even suggesting coach summitt apologize. I'm still not exactly sure why the NCAA said using the espn studios to influence a recruits decision was only a minor violation.

The uconn fan base should feel incredibly blessed with all the success the team has had thru the years and they can owe a lot of that success to coach summitt, but yet some of them continue to act like winning 9 nc's and being an almost completely unbeatable team for many years isn't nearly enough to satisfy them...
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I had to go over to the boneyard to read what was said.
It appears that the thread is locked from further activity but you can still read what was posted. I thank you for defending Pat and totally agree with your last paragraph above that "the uconn fan base should feel..."
I do have a question regarding one your boneyard quotes. It's this one.
"Do I honestly believe geno or the university conspired to somehow funnel money to Maya's mom?? No!! I'm sure in the end maya wanted to come to uconn and that what was in her heart".
I take that to mean that you think Tennessee should not have filed the complaint against uconn. Am I correct in that assumption ?
 
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if I was a husky fan posting on their board, the IQ level there would go up immensely. :)



they can't handle the truth( Geno cheated).
 
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volnationnj said:
I had to go over to the boneyard to read what was said.
It appears that the thread is locked from further activity but you can still read what was posted. I thank you for defending Pat and totally agree with your last paragraph above that "the uconn fan base should feel..."
I do have a question regarding one your boneyard quotes. It's this one.
"Do I honestly believe geno or the university conspired to somehow funnel money to Maya's mom?? No!! I'm sure in the end maya wanted to come to uconn and that what was in her heart".
I take that to mean that you think Tennessee should not have filed the complaint against uconn. Am I correct in that assumption ?
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Hi and I appreciate you taking the time to go read over it. No, I def think coach summitt and Tennessee had every right to file a complaint if they knew of recruiting violations. I'm not privy to what the complaint or complaints alleged, but I'm guessing one of them was the illegal espn studio tour that uconn arranged for maya. I'm just not sold on the allegation that he (geno) or uconn actually secretly funneled money to Maya's mom. I think there is some compelling evidence, as mtsu pointed out a few posts earlier, but I just can't fathom geno risking the NCAA "death penalty" to gain one recruit, no matter how good she is. And get this...there was a uconn fan who admitted, on the boneyard, that the circumstances involving Maya's mom and how she was able to afford to live on a small cheap handbag income, was indeed strange. Of course he was quickly rebuffed rather rudely by other uconn fans for asserting this.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
Hi and I appreciate you taking the time to go read over it. No, I def think coach summitt and Tennessee had every right to file a complaint if they knew of recruiting violations. I'm not privy to what the complaint or complaints alleged, but I'm guessing one of them was the illegal espn studio tour that uconn arranged for maya. I'm just not sold on the allegation that he (geno) or uconn actually secretly funneled money to Maya's mom. I think there is some compelling evidence, as mtsu pointed out a few posts earlier, but I just can't fathom geno risking the NCAA "death penalty" to gain one recruit, no matter how good she is. And get this...there was a uconn fan who admitted, on the boneyard, that the circumstances involving Maya's mom and how she was able to afford to live on a small cheap handbag income, was indeed strange. Of course he was quickly rebuffed rather rudely by other uconn fans for asserting this.
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Interesting. How did Maya's mother afford to live in Georgia ? I read Mtsu post above. Frankly, I read speculation but nowhere did I see evidence. I wish someone did have compelling evidence, then we could finally put this subject to bed rather than resurrecting it every few months.
 
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volnationnj said:
Interesting. How did Maya's mother afford to live in Georgia ? I read Mtsu post above. Frankly, I read speculation but nowhere did I see evidence. I wish someone did have compelling evidence, then we could finally put this subject to bed rather than resurrecting it every few months.
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If it did happen, things like that eventually come out. It might be years before we know the whole story involving the recruiting fiasco between pat and geno. I think some uconn fans want to continually bring it up so they can somehow justify the recruiting violation the NCAA did find against geno and at the same time use the fact that the NCAA didn't find other violations as an excuse to continually drag coach summit thru the mud. I think many lady vol fans have moved past it and only say something when uconn fans start whining about it over and over.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
If it did happen, things like that eventually come out. It might be years before we know the whole story involving the recruiting fiasco between pat and geno. I think some uconn fans want to continually bring it up so they can somehow justify the recruiting violation the NCAA did find against geno and at the same time use the fact that the NCAA didn't find other violations as an excuse to continually drag coach summit thru the mud. I think many lady vol fans have moved past it and only say something when uconn fans start whining about it over and over.
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I heard Diana Taurusi was involved in some of the things surrounding Maya. Like he sent her to Ga to help recruit her.
 
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volnationnj said:
Interesting. How did Maya's mother afford to live in Georgia ? I read Mtsu post above. Frankly, I read speculation but nowhere did I see evidence. I wish someone did have compelling evidence, then we could finally put this subject to bed rather than resurrecting it every few months.
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Setting up an LLC (bags) with only one employee (Kathryn), and a couple purchases of said bags with a VERY HIGH price tag is one way. Selling a couple of bags for 20k is perfectly legal, and can be claimed on a W2.
 
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mtsuraider06 said:
Setting up an LLC (bags) with only one employee (Kathryn), and a couple purchases of said bags with a VERY HIGH price tag is one way. Selling a couple of bags for 20k is perfectly legal, and can be claimed on a W2.
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Is that what happened ? Or is it just more idle speculation ? I would be overjoyed if you could prove it, is that possible ? Or is the accuracy of your idle speculation equal to your recruiting speculation ? Remember these from October postings ?
"I will be BEYOND shocked if Carter doesn't end up at Tennessee".
or
"We are in good shape with both Brown and Mompremier"
 
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volnationnj said:
Is that what happened ? Or is it just more idle speculation ? I would be overjoyed if you could prove it, is that possible ? Or is the accuracy of your idle speculation equal to your recruiting speculation ? Remember these from October postings ?
"I will be BEYOND shocked if Carter doesn't end up at Tennessee".
or
"We are in good shape with both Brown and Mompremier"
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Volnation let me ask you...do you think the complaint that was filed by the sec on behalf of Tennessee was a good or bad move on pats part?

I also want to ask anyone who might have the answer to this..was this complaint and the alleged violations against uconn ever made public?? do we know for sure what all violations were listed in the complaint?
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
Volnation let me ask you...do you think the complaint that was filed by the sec on behalf of Tennessee was a good or bad move on pats part?

I also want to ask anyone who might have the answer to this..was this complaint and the alleged violations against uconn ever made public?? do we know for sure what all violations were listed in the complaint?
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Thank You for asking. My answer is, it depends.
I don't know what kind on information we had in our possession. If it was a fishing expedition then no, I don't think it was a good idea. If the information that we had could be verified through other sources then yes, we should have filed. I just don't know how much we investigated the charges before we filed the complaint.
 
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