Georgia, etc. and Poaching

[BigOrangeTrain]

Wish we would throw the kind of money around that Miami, UGA and Oregon is.

 

[SLODAWG]

Why is there a uga fan on this site to Start w ? Ban immediately

It always gets to that.

 

[TheFlash1971]

Kirb's stole Ra-Ra so we couldn't get him...
Why Kirby Smart now looks foolish for the comments he made after Georgia beat Tennessee earlier this season

The guy who made it a point that he wont use the transfer portal . F*** him Kirby Smart is a deushebag .

 

[Mightyvol]

Kirby boy qualifies as a POS in my estimation.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

It’s just basic common sense. And force all coaches to sign 1 yr non compete agreements with their employer. If NCAA requires it, all schools will have to comply.

"Force" coaches to sign a non compete? And when Saban, Smart, Day, Kiffin, Kelly, Heupel, etc tell the NCAA to kiss their collective butts, what then? No coach, even a position coach, in their right mind is going to accept a contract like that and give the schools that much leverage. Have you never heard of Jimmy Sexton?

You're under the impression the NCAA has teeth anymore? They don't. For decades we've complained that the NCAA sucks (and they did,) but look what happens without somebody at the tiller.

 

[DukeDaisySam]

"Smart essentially solidified himself as a hypocrite this week." Don't shoot the messenger - national media.

I’m sure that concerns him greatly

 

[DickeyD]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

Yep. Either get on the bus or get run over. in their defense they kicked ass without NIL and the portal and have decided to not get beat by it.

Where are we? Are we in. Or just gonna cry about it for the next decade ?

 

[Tman44]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

I seriously feel you here. In reality though, wishing for the NCAA to do something worthwhile that would help a situation is about as unlikely as it would be for the government to stop wasting our tax money. That's not a shot at one party, its a shot at both. Seems the NCAA only cares about making sure biological males dominate women's sports.

 

[volmainia2]

Kirb's stole Ra-Ra so we couldn't get him...
Why Kirby Smart now looks foolish for the comments he made after Georgia beat Tennessee earlier this season

First thing i thought that kirby got them so nobody else could, thats how he is.

 

[FlintstoneGAVol]

How quickly you moved from Kirby's comment to his inability to coach to tossing shade at Georgia's championship, which i think is where your real problem with Kirby is. Dawgs won the title. You'll be happier when you accept it.

No, I will be happier when you leave a TN football forum. No problem accepting who wins on the field.

 

[Fullfillmer]

Yep. Either get on the bus or get run over. in their defense they kicked ass without NIL and the portal and have decided to not get beat by it.

Where are we? Are we in. Or just gonna cry about it for the next decade ?

This is more of a grand scheme of things discussion - It isn't up to me to try to defend and fight battles for the little players like Missouri and Miss State - but it is in no one's interest if anyone is beating the crap out of other teams in
our conference 92 -0 because the talent is so disproportionate. You may enjoy watching those games - not me. And while I like watching Tennessee win - there needs to be more parity among the haves and the have nots and not less.
It's not entertaining or fun.

 

[MontyPython]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

Well yeah.

Welcome to NFL Jr.

But worse with no caps.

Most people don't get how bad this could become yet.

 

[Fullfillmer]

I seriously feel you here. In reality though, wishing for the NCAA to do something worthwhile that would help a situation is about as unlikely as it would be for the government to stop wasting our tax money. That's not a shot at one party, its a shot at both. Seems the NCAA only cares about making sure biological males dominate women's sports.

Don't even get me started there. I have no issues with biological males wanting to do their thing and switch teams if they so desire, but I have played enough sports in my life to know and understand that this is simply unfair and unacceptable in my eyes to every biological female that has ever competed in sports.
Maybe if they held a few boxing matches between formerly male contestants and biologically female contestants they might realize ..... this is not an even playing field and fair to these hospitalized biological females. Lunatics running the asylum.

 

[vollygirl]

No, I will be happier when you leave a TN football forum. No problem accepting who wins on the field.

Merry Christmas.

 

[valoisvol]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

Ya think

 

[LAVol1]

You think a guy of Browns stature is going to throw out that allegation without evidence?

Snake oil salesmen will say anything to enhance their position.

 

[Orange-U-Glad]

NIL was meant to allow athletes to be compensated for the use of their name, image, and likeness, not to induce them to attend a particular school. Folks saw its potential recruiting and the horse was out of the barn. Nothing else matters. Tennessee is ranked as having one of the best funded collectives, so we can’t say much. I will say, however, that the rules against recruiting/poaching athletes on scholarship at another school have not been repealed. Apparently, the toothless and blind NCAA is not going to do anything about it.

 

[Vol524]

@SLODAWG- Are you lost or have you been banned from GA boards? The door is on your left, don't let it hit you on your way out.

 

[CMcEver]

And when a TE gets more receiving yards than either receiver and they don't improve their draft stock, will receivers still go there?

 

[Voltopia]

Most people don't get how bad this could become yet.

Don't get, or even worse, don't care. Plenty of folks said they wanted this.

 

[Vol423]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

That sounds a lot like Major League Baseball.

 

[CNCVol88]

The landscape of college football is forever changing and not for the better. Georgia is going to need a lot more footballs and quarterbacks in order to make everyone happy.

They have recruited away (poached) Miss State's best receiver, Poached Missouri's best receiver, have multiple highly rated recruits coming in that are receivers.
Of course, they also tried to (poach) the North Carolina qb, apparently with an offer of 5M.

While they say that all is fair in love and war and while we are not directly affected, the imbalance created across NCAA football is pretty disturbing.
It is all about money, whoever has the most NIL money wins. Schools like Oklahoma and Miami are awful on the field but killing it in recruiting.
Why should schools like Miss State, Missouri, Vanderbilt even try to field a team if each year their best players are stolen or purchased away.

This seems to me to be all kinds of messed up. NIL and college football needs some sort of salary cap and some sort of rule limiting transfers.
(Note: I would not want to be in Georgia's receiving core room - knowing next year you might be replaced by a receiver from Baylor or somewhere else.)

Georgia and Miami seem to be throwing around the most money - Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and M, Alabama

I am not offering up any answers or solutions, just observing how messed up this appears to be.

Lol you can't limit Nil.stop blaming NIL without understanding how it works.

 

[wmcovol]

"Force" coaches to sign a non compete? And when Saban, Smart, Day, Kiffin, Kelly, Heupel, etc tell the NCAA to kiss their collective butts, what then? No coach, even a position coach, in their right mind is going to accept a contract like that and give the schools that much leverage. Have you never heard of Jimmy Sexton?

You're under the impression the NCAA has teeth anymore? They don't. For decades we've complained that the NCAA sucks (and they did,) but look what happens without somebody at the tiller.

The NCAA may not have teeth to control NIL but they can, at least for now, control eligibility. The waiver for transfers wasnt decreed by a court ruling. The NCaa simply implemented it before the NIL ruling came out in hopes to win that, They didnt so the waiver is a waste and escaluates the problems. If the NCAA makes players sit a year after transfer, they would have to do something for coaches and the non-compete agreements would do that. If the NCAA requires it for bowl and playoff elgibility, the coaches and agents will have to accept it. Its not a tough gig, coaches agree to leave players & recruits at their former school alone.

The schools cant compete individually with the agents but as a group, they can.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

There's no one to enforce any NIL rules. The NCAA is tired of losing lawsuits about player compensation and punted enforcement to the conferences. That doesn't work because it's not in the best interest of a conference to keep their teams from getting talent.

The reality is that if someone approaches me or you for an NIL deal, who can say I can't take it? Like that guy on the skateboard with the Fleetwood Mac song, if somebody wants to use his video or face or whatever and pays him, it's all good.

Why shouldn't a college athlete be able to do the same thing? Who should be able to control the money a kid makes from being who they are?

There's no way to control NIL legally.

The NCAA at this point is the equivalent of a dude passed out drunk in the floor in his clothes from the night before and a pile of his own vomit. They are so desperate that Congress is their last hope.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

The guy who made it a point that he wont use the transfer portal . F*** him Kirby Smart is a deushebag .

In fairness, all he said was that he didn't use the transfer portal last year. A few days later he said that was just a fact about his team this year, not his philosophy and that he had taken a transfer every other year he has coached there. They picked up Eli Wolf from us as grad transfer early in Pruitt's tenure. Alot of our fans took that as a shot at us but it wasn't. Dude does have the worst haircut of all time though. Looks like Captain Kangaroo.