Gina Carano Fired After Social Media Post

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It's broadly true, but the parallels with Nazism are pretty weak. It's broadly true in general, not just with government. There are elements in both sides of the government stoking hate. There are elements in all sides of the media stoking hate. There are all kinds of organizations with elements stoking hate. The government collectively isn't targeting one minority group and that's what the nazis were doing.
Our hate is stoked towards each other so we will not band together against our common enemy, the government. People in this country unify quickly when a common enemy is self evident. I hope one day we can see how badly we are manipulated.
 
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She didn’t “choose to be controversial “. She chose to exercise her right to state her opinion. Something we used to value in America, even if we totally disagreed with what the person said.

And she is still free to do just that. As you said, Disney, as private company, is free to fire her as well.
 
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but canceling a subscription because of cancel culture gone wild is an ironic response to said culture. lulz

And over a supporting character that has appeared in only of 5 out of 16 episodes.
 
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The funny thing is, she could beat the snot out of any of the SJWs who fired her or any member of the cast or crew. People would pay big bucks to watch it too. I would not want to make her mad. You wouldn’t like Gina if she got mad 😂

It's great though, because those big bad muscles don't mean **** when you get fired by people with more money and power than you.
 
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And she is still free to do just that. As you said, Disney, as private company, is free to fire her as well.

Perhaps if the reason the gave was actuality factual and she did disparage a religion or cultural identity, this would be justified.

They bowed yet again to the social justice clan screeching on Twitter.
 
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She didn’t “choose to be controversial “. She chose to exercise her right to state her opinion. Something we used to value in America, even if we totally disagreed with what the person said.

"People should be free to say what they want but private entities shouldn't choose who they can employ!"
 
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And she is still free to do just that. As you said, Disney, as private company, is free to fire her as well.
It is not the legal question I address but the moral one. Yea Disney has the RIGHT to fire her. But do we really want to live in a world where people loose their job and livelihood just because they say something that offends someone else? Think CAREFULLY before answering because I can guarantee that you have said or written something that someone else would find extremely offensive. We all have. That is the whole business about Jesus saying “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and “treat others the same you would like to be treated”. We are DEVOURING each other as a people over WORDS. That is not a world I want my kids to inherit. Live and let live, free exchange of ideas, free speech in SPIRT as well as in LETTER OF THE LAW. That is what I was raised to believe American culture treasured. Do you disagree?
 
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If you're a celebrity, just never say anything political unless (a) you want to reduce your celebrity, or (b) you think you can make a difference with a point that will be almost universally acceptable.

Drug from the other thread.

But this didn't apply to liberal viewpoints.

And you know this...
 
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Am I the only one who thought she was an awful actress?

Respect what she did as a fighter but I thought she was consistently the weakest link as far as acting goes on the mando.
 
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I have to admit though, dumb as Gina's comments were, I have a problem with the idea of someone losing their employment because of their own personal views. I hear a lot of people make the argument "you can have freedom of speech but you're not free from the consequences." Well, if that's the case then it's not REALLY freedom of speech is it? I thought the original concept of freedom of speech was to be able to express ourselves without fear of persecution. Isn't Gina being fired for her point of view not a form of persecution? She wasn't fired for failing to do her job. She was fired for publicly expressing her point of view. That seems messed up to me.

I don't have a problem with it at all. It's a perfectly fine societal check, it just needs to be used properly (like anything).

It's like saying businesses shouldn't lose customers because the customers don't like their views.
 
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It is not the legal question I address but the moral one. Yea Disney has the RIGHT to fire her. But do we really want to live in a world where people loose their job and livelihood just because they say something that offends someone else? Think CAREFULLY before answering because I can guarantee that you have said or written something that someone else would find extremely offensive. We all have. That is the whole business about Jesus saying “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and “treat others the same you would like to be treated”. We are DEVOURING each other as a people over WORDS. That is not a world I want my kids to inherit. Live and let live, free exchange of ideas, free speech in SPIRT as well as in LETTER OF THE LAW. That is what I was raised to believe American culture treasured. Do you disagree?
 
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Drug from the other thread.

But this didn't apply to liberal viewpoints.

And you know this...

Yeah it does. The first one that comes to mind is the girl who played Starbuck speaking out on guns. She immediately lost a huge amount of followers.
 
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Am I the only one who thought she was an awful actress?

Respect what she did as a fighter but I thought she was consistently the weakest link as far as acting goes on the mando.

I think she filled a good supporting role and the character was well thought out.

As for her specifically, I'm kind of at a loss on how many brawny female actresses there are in Hollywood that could take her place.
 
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"People should be free to say what they want but private entities shouldn't choose who they can employ!"
You better believe businesses can’t arbitrarily choose who to fire or employee. Try this sometime, fire someone because of their race, religion, or gender. Let me know how that works out and get back to me. Why should firing someone for being a conservative be any more acceptable than firing someone for being Catholic? I will hang up and listen.......
 
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Yeah it does. The first one that comes to mind is the girl who played Starbuck speaking out on guns. She immediately lost a huge amount of followers.

I missed that. Got a link? Nothing is popping up on Google (big surprise)

ETA: found it with Katee Sackhoff from 2013, right?

Alegent lost half her followers. According to an article, she had 98K followers before the Tweets in question. She has 275K now.
 
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Yep found it and edited my post above.

She got them back.

OK, do you think liberals really can say and do whatever they want? So many people claimed to have canceled Netflix over the Obama production (series? documentary?). Clearly, there is a price to be paid. Carano probably gained some conservative followers today. Doesn't mean she's not paying for it in ways.
 
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I think it's pretty obvious she wanted off the show. She's been trying to get kicked off for a while.
 

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