Halzle on Nico, per Wes Rucker

[BernardKingGOAT]

People like you are the reason we keep getting stuck with sub-par coaches. By all means keep buying the product regardless of whether it's crap. Maybe when all of you die we'll get fans that actually have expectations in line with our tradition and we can be like a real program that doesn't accept mediocrity even if it means bunching the panties of those who still live in the twentieth century and want to give a bad coach ten years to magically morph into a good one.

Ok So all of a sudden, Heupel is a bad coach? Oh, BTW, I have nothing to do with hiring coaches. You're the typical uninformed, know-nothing fan.

 

[VOLnMiami]

This makes it much worse than JG because Milton is actually a serviceable and good QB. JG was awful and had legitimate reasons for being yanked. I hate how people are comparing Milton starting to JG. No where near the same orbit as each other

I agree nowhere even close to the same.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I agree nowhere even close to the same.

Not even in the parking lot next to the ball park same

 

[0059862]

clown show

Yes, Milton has been playing college football for like 6 years and he's still not good. Time to move on to the future with the freshman. If we're going to lose, we might as well see what we have to look forward to in in the coming years. Yes, I know there are other issues, but it's amazing how the ability to score and having a dynamic QB improves the team overall. Currently, we have this situation where the rest of the team knows Milton won't be capable of bringing them back in the majority of situations.

 

[lifeisdeep]

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And people like you is why we have had a horrific 15 year run. If you don't think there is ever any possibility for improvement, then give it up. There is no chance you will be happy because there will always be rough spots.

There are dumb statements on forums, and then there's this. Congratulations on typing the most nonsensical lie that has ever been posted on this forum.

Go ahead and explain what I had to do with hiring Lane Kiffin, or Derek Dooley, or Butch Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. I didn't want any of them. I also didn't want an unproven coach whose biggest job was UCF and whose record at said school had declined each year he was there.

I promise you if I were in charge, it would have been fixed long ago because I would not have hired a clown. I would have hired someone who could do the job.

 

[lifeisdeep]

Ok So all of a sudden, Heupel is a bad coach? Oh, BTW, I have nothing to do with hiring coaches. You're the typical uninformed, know-nothing fan.

You're the typical poser who probably has never excelled at anything he has ever done. I'll give you a hint: that's not me.

I bet you never played any sport. But I'm sure you're king of your fantasy league.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Anyone comparing Joe Milton to JG is either vision impaired, knows nothing about football, or is being intentionally deceptive.

I could list a litany of reasons why...but honestly EVERY single meaningful metric is so far apart that I shouldn't have to. Especially the 2 most important ones: Joe is 6 and 1 as a starter at UT...and he has thrown for 16TDS with only 1 INT at Tennessee. No more is needed.

Contrast that with JG losing 2 games for every game won as a starter (look it up) and neither being capable to throw for TDs nor capable to stop throwing TDs for the OTHER team. ( remember the back to back "pick sixes" at Home vs Kentucky?) There were plenty of games where JG actually defeated UT himself. Many here swore not to watch another game with him at QB...bout a half dozen times EACH. Thankfully JG was only the starter for those 7 years.

Seriously people. The FF is always crazy but wow.


* Also...pull your head outta your butt. Joe is the best option this season by far. Halzle himself said plainly that there is nothing Nico could do any better. His QB is playing well. The offensive line and the terrible secondary play are our ACTUAL problems. GO VOLS

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

You're the typical poser who probably has never excelled at anything he has ever done. I'll give you a hint: that's not me.

I bet you never played any sport. But I'm sure you're king of your fantasy league.

Nice comeback!

BTW, I'm not too impressive in NFL fantasy.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

There are dumb statements on forums, and then there's this. Congratulations on typing the most nonsensical lie that has ever been posted on this forum.

Go ahead and explain what I had to do with hiring Lane Kiffin, or Derek Dooley, or Butch Jones, or Jeremy Pruitt. I didn't want any of them. I also didn't want an unproven coach whose biggest job was UCF and whose record at said school had declined each year he was there.

I promise you if I were in charge, it would have been fixed long ago because I would not have hired a clown. I would have hired someone who could do the job.

If you were in charge?

You've never been in charge of anything remotely that high level nor have played in any competition remotely close to that level. That's not an opinion. It's fact. If I am wrong give me some documented facts to contradict me

 

[MerkinMuffle]

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Just sucking down the copium

 

[Tin Man]

The problem isn't Joe. The interception was, yes.

Joe's target was open when he began the throw. A Florida defender struck Joe/Joe's arm as he released. The resulting wounded duck wound up in the hands of a Florida DB. I do believe that Joe was pressing, given the situation at that time.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Joe's target was open when he began the throw. A Florida defender struck Joe/Joe's arm as he released. The resulting wounded duck wound up in the hands of a Florida DB. I do believe that Joe was pressing, given the situation at that time.

Yeah, he should have had the awareness of a defender charging directly in front of him. It's easy to say he shouldn't have attempted it, but another half second and the worst is an overthrow

 

[Volfan76]

The better question is why wasn't 461 and 3 TDs a blowout? Instead of requiring the QB to put up those numbers each and every week, why not demand the rest of the team step it up some?

Because it is the age of offense and it takes offense to win big games. Check the score of last year's peach bowl.

 

[chattavol420]

Interpretation:

Nico isn’t ready yet and I need to do everything possible to build Joe’s confidence.

Milton isn’t ready either. That’s the whole point. He’s played a timer football and isn’t good.

When asked the same types of questions when Milton struggle to start the season three years ago he would’ve indicated the same thing about hooker. But when given the opportunity, what happened? We’ve seen all we need to see out of Milton to know he is never going to be a dynamic play maker. So why not start the process of getting someone else up to speed now?

 

[lifeisdeep]

If you were in charge?

You've never been in charge of anything remotely that high level nor have played in any competition remotely close to that level. That's not an opinion. It's fact. If I am wrong give me some documented facts to contradict me

Mike Hamilton has been in charge of something this high level - did that make him good at it? Your argument is as weak as it gets.

You may have missed this, but there are people on this planet who excel at everything they do. It’s not theory; it’s a principle of psychology. There’s even a personality type ascribed to these people in the Enneagram system. I happen to be that type. I don’t even take on new hobbies because I like being the best at whatever I do.

I have excelled at the highest level at two different careers, and even at a job I did for a few years before my career took off. I have an advanced degree from an Ivy League university you couldn’t get into, and I went there when I was broke i.e. entirely on merit.

You know zilch about how I would do in such a role, because you don’t know me.

 

[Tin Man]

@lifeisdeep and similarly agitated Vols fans, if you actually had the qualifications to be a member of UT's administration during the past 20-odd years, you would have been mired in the dysfunctional intramural squabbling and not free to make the hire(s) to which you aver. Coaches didn't demure from UT's HC job because of the money, facilities, difficulty recruiting, et al. They eschewed the interest and offers because UT's administration was inept, feuding publicly, and the target of a hostile Governor. UT got who they got because UT was a hot mess.

As for the most recent hires, the administration has some credibility and stability, now. Danny White's a royal flush for UT. When he started, the optimal time for hiring a football head coach was past. He needed someone quick and went with a known commodity. Josh Huepel was/is better than Vols fans hoped for at the time, and he's proven to be better than many football coaches, included some within the SEC - culture, academics, development, recruiting, scheming, game management - the package.

If you honestly believe that one coaching hire can instantly make a team champions for years to come, then set aside your orange and become a Colorado Buffs fan. You'll be crestfallen soon enough. Some blueprint for immediate and lasting college football success isn't being revealed in Boulder. Deion Sanders' feet of clay will be apparent before long.

Ah, but go ahead and dismiss my comments as folly. Rant. Rave. Troll. I'm just an old Alumnus from the '70s. What could I have learned in the past 50 years.

GBO.

 

[Fightmaker]

I'm just saying. Most here have never tried to complete a pass with a 350lb monster wanting to kill you...most opinions here stem from freaking video game QBs with actual experience limited to pop warner.....he hurried the throw...ever seen a pitcher hurry a pitch...usually low...does he need to do better absolutely... But he wasn't terrible

Most of us have never been asked to do so either. Most of us have been asked to manage other people’s money, do their plumbing, teach their kids, etc. And a lot of that came when we were fresh out of school. But we were expected to do what we were asked. If we did not perform, it meant our asses. I am not against holding these young men to that same standard. In today’s society, the younger generation is pampered too much, in my opinion. Neyland, Bryant, several of these older guys would not be able to coach today. But they will be remembered forever, and several others won’t. Times are changing, sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s for the better.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Mike Hamilton has been in charge of something this high level - did that make him good at it? Your argument is as weak as it gets.

You may have missed this, but there are people on this planet who excel at everything they do. It’s not theory; it’s a principle of psychology. There’s even a personality type ascribed to these people in the Enneagram system. I happen to be that type. I don’t even take on new hobbies because I like being the best at whatever I do.

I have excelled at the highest level at two different careers, and even at a job I did for a few years before my career took off. I have an advanced degree from an Ivy League university you couldn’t get into, and I went there when I was broke i.e. entirely on merit.

You know zilch about how I would do in such a role, because you don’t know me.

Hey, that's great. I can see, I think, you're proud of your accomplishments. So much so that I actually believe it. Because you excelled in your cross functional careers doesn't equate to knowing how to succeed in other professions. You talk about playing sports.......What did you play at the collegiate level? Did you play your sport at the collegiate level? I mean NCAA competition as a starter on a team. Have you played in a NCAA national championship? Have you played your sport in national amateur competitions? Going back, did you ever play for a state championship in any sport?

 

[Spawn]

If that's a " really high" level, then the qb of this offense needs to perform at an elite level. We won this game last year by 5 points and qb production was:
461 total yds 3td 0int
This year:
287 total yds 2td 1int.

With only 106 total rushing yds, "really high" doesn't cut it. Sounds like Halzle may not be ready for the big time yet.

Not to mention 20 completions in 34 passes isn't a great completion percentage.

 

[BanditVol]

Throwing it in the dirt on 4th and 6 is the way to go. It’s almost like running out of bounds on 4th down when the game is on the line.

It was a bad throw, but it was to a receiver, it just fell short. Let's not be ridiculous.

 

[barney]

This press conference was the most delusional sunshine pumping I have ever heard from a coach.

If the offense was functioning "at a really high level" would we be 57th in scoring offense? I don't think so. Hazle is gaslighting us lol. I'm mostly not part of the fahr his ass crowd, but my goodness when coaches say this kind of crap it makes me hope he gets fired.

 

[whobethis16]

Because it is the age of offense and it takes offense to win big games. Check the score of last year's peach bowl.

If it's the age of offense, then why were 21 points enough to win 25 of the 30 games played they played, and 14 points were enough to win 20 of the 30 games played for the national champion the last 2 years?

 

[lifeisdeep]

Hey, that's great. I can see, I think, you're proud of your accomplishments. So much so that I actually believe it. Because you excelled in your cross functional careers doesn't equate to knowing how to succeed in other professions. You talk about playing sports.......What did you play at the collegiate level? Did you play your sport at the collegiate level? I mean NCAA competition as a starter on a team. Have you played in a NCAA national championship? Have you played your sport in national amateur competitions? Going back, did you ever play for a state championship in any sport?

Have you played collegiate sports? Or high school? Or even Pop Warner?

 

[lifeisdeep]

@lifeisdeep and similarly agitated Vols fans, if you actually had the qualifications to be a member of UT's administration during the past 20-odd years, you would have been mired in the dysfunctional intramural squabbling and not free to make the hire(s) to which you aver. Coaches didn't demure from UT's HC job because of the money, facilities, difficulty recruiting, et al. They eschewed the interest and offers because UT's administration was inept, feuding publicly, and the target of a hostile Governor. UT got who they got because UT was a hot mess.

As for the most recent hires, the administration has some credibility and stability, now. Danny White's a royal flush for UT. When he started, the optimal time for hiring a football head coach was past. He needed someone quick and went with a known commodity. Josh Huepel was/is better than Vols fans hoped for at the time, and he's proven to be better than many football coaches, included some within the SEC - culture, academics, development, recruiting, scheming, game management - the package.

If you honestly believe that one coaching hire can instantly make a team champions for years to come, then set aside your orange and become a Colorado Buffs fan. You'll be crestfallen soon enough. Some blueprint for immediate and lasting college football success isn't being revealed in Boulder. Deion Sanders' feet of clay will be apparent before long.

Ah, but go ahead and dismiss my comments as folly. Rant. Rave. Troll. I'm just an old Alumnus from the '70s. What could I have learned in the past 50 years.

GBO.

If you really think Deon is going to fail, you probably shouldn’t be questioning anyone’s knowledge about football.

 

[Vol 67]

Most of us have never been asked to do so either. Most of us have been asked to manage other people’s money, do their plumbing, teach their kids, etc. And a lot of that came when we were fresh out of school. But we were expected to do what we were asked. If we did not perform, it meant our asses. I am not against holding these young men to that same standard. In today’s society, the younger generation is pampered too much, in my opinion. Neyland, Bryant, several of these older guys would not be able to coach today. But they will be remembered forever, and several others won’t. Times are changing, sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s for the better.

Long story short….get off my lawn.