Has the concept of dressing professional in public service jobs been completely discarded now?

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DancingOutlaw said:
"Sorry they didn't teach me subtraction in my 12 years of primary education"
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What's really sad is that even if they did, it sounds like from the "There should be an app for that on your phone" comment that she doesn't even know you can figure out the amount of change needed with a calculator.
 
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Go aeiou said:
I was actually thinking about my own career as an accountant/auditor/CPA. In the 70's we wore suits, and called them" the official business man's uniform"(like chick fil-a). Things change. By the mid 80's I seldom saw professionals other than Attys wearing suits.
I worked primarily with Accountants, engineers, chemist, etc.

In this case I suspect the owner was too cheap to buy T shirts or his business was struggling. Some business people think a business will run itself. I could give examples for days. Many people only see $ signs when they go into business.
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Be honest. Did you wear a pocket protector?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Its manufacturing. However I work in accounting. The pants are grey business casual. The shirts are navy blue. We were offered the choice of either polo style or button down long/short sleeve.
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Is there a reason related to the manufacturing process that you wear specific clothing? Specific matterial for a reason?

I had clients in the food industry that had clothing requirements.
 
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utvolpj said:
You may have seen the news that it's getting hard to find employees at all. Running off the ones you do have isn't a good plan either. I see way too many small local businesses posting they're closed for the day due to lack of employees
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This. Business owners don't care about that stuff anymore. They just want people to show up and make their $8 an hour.

We don't have a "worker shortage." Nobody wants to work for **** wages while the CEO and higher ups take in millions.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This. Business owners don't care about that stuff anymore. They just want people to show up and make their $8 an hour.

We don't have a "worker shortage." Nobody wants to work for **** wages while the CEO and higher ups take in millions.
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No one is paying $8/hr. There are lots of unfilled, well paying jobs out there. However those require effort, attendance, etc while a gig job does not. I've stopped listening to those people complain about wages. For the most part you get back what you put in. Ceo pay is irrelevant. I make a good salary that isn't dependent on what he makes. It's an excuse
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This. Business owners don't care about that stuff anymore. They just want people to show up and make their $8 an hour.

We don't have a "worker shortage." Nobody wants to work for **** wages while the CEO and higher ups take in millions.
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Where is this place that pays $8 hr?
 
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utvolpj said:
No one is paying $8/hr. There are lots of unfilled, well paying jobs out there. However those require effort, attendance, etc while a gig job does not. I've stopped listening to those people complain about wages. For the most part you get back what you put in. Ceo pay is irrelevant. I make a good salary that isn't dependent on what he makes. It's an excuse
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Any place that can't stay open because they don't have staff is most likely paying terrible wages.
 
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Go aeiou said:
Is there a reason related to the manufacturing process that you wear specific clothing? Specific matterial for a reason?

I had clients in the food industry that had clothing requirements.
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No, the uniform is not related to the manufacturing process. It's solely just to promote uniformity and to avoid any potential issues of distraction/inappropriate attire. And employees at ALL levels wear the uniform, from hourly workers all the way up to upper management.
 
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Wages are crazy right now. My teenage son just started his first job making $14.50/hr at the local movie theater.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
. I was speaking primarily about lack of professional appearance/dress code standards. That's what I've been noticing more and more.
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I don't consider myself a natty dresser at all, but I gotta tell you, I think this became noticable starting before I was born. Like say 1950. Americans are very extreme compared to other cultures, at this point, in terms of casual-ness. Very extreme.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This. Business owners don't care about that stuff anymore. They just want people to show up and make their $8 an hour.

We don't have a "worker shortage." Nobody wants to work for **** wages while the CEO and higher ups take in millions.
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How many businesses do you own?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I had to start a thread on this because it's something I've been noticing more and more. I will give two examples that I've experienced recently.

1. My wife and I went to a local ice cream shop the other night. The girl working behind the counter was wearing shorts so small on her, her ass cheeks were hanging out them. She was also wearing a tee shirt that had the logo of the Morton's Salt Company (girl holding the umbrella). Only it said "Don't Be A Salty Bitch". I couldn't help but think, WOW! THIS is considered acceptable attire when you are working with the public? Especially in a place of business where a very large % of your cliental is children!

2. I took my son to Gamestop because he had some birthday money he wanted to spend. The guy behind the counter was wearing a wife beater with a button down shirt unbuttoned, shorts, and flip flops! This is such a far cry from when I was young and this store used to be called Electronics Boutique. The workers back then wore ties and dress pants! Eventually they went to business casual and wore khakis and polos but still. Now the people who work there look homeless!

I realize my evidence is anecdotal but surely I'm not the only one who's experienced it. Has anyone else noticed this with retail/service workers? I'm just wondering, what happened to the standards of professionalism?? Where are the managers of these businesses and why have they allowed it to get to this point?
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Did she have purple hair and numerous face piercings and tats too ?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I recently received an application from someone working at Captain D's making 8.50
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Captain D's here has a sign up, starting pay $11.50 for no experience, experience will pay more. That's not too bad for a high school kid here
 
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