n_huffhines
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FFS. The title of episode is "The long Knight". On top of it being night, a snow storm blew in covering the moon light. This isn't that hard to understand...
turn the lights off in the room you're watching.....that's what i did, had no issues.....Lol, so if the fight happened in a pitch black cave and we just had audio, you would be fine with that because those are the conditions of this made up battle?
hm. i watched HBO Now, on my 60" Mitsubishi DLP, which is at least 8 years old....and it was fine. maybe it's Prime? i'd try messing with the contrast/brightness on either device.I watched on a 65" ultra HD Samsung TV that isn't quite a year old. The screenshot is from my desktop. Same problem, two different devices, same platform (Prime).
Lol, so if the fight happened in a pitch black cave and we just had audio, you would be fine with that because those are the conditions of this made up battle?
Let me guess, they don't give the honest answer and say "it was looking fake as **** when you could see, so we made it dark and took out most of the wide shots we wanted to do."
lol...that's awesome and sad at the same time.This article suggests the best way to watch is HBOnow on older TV's, which was not my setup.
"It was also a whirlwind tour of the limits of video compression algorithms and home video display technology. Which is to say that a lot of people couldn’t see anything. On Sunday night, Twitter was full of viewerscomplaining about the show’s cinematography, which has often been dark, but never quite so consistently stygian.
...it’s hard to think of a better recent use of darkness than the defeat of the Dothraki in this week’s episode. The problem is that the entire television infrastructure that distributes Game of Thrones, from the cameras in Ireland to the eyeball in your own personal head, does a uniquely bad job with dimly lit scenes. And “The Long Night” was practically nothing else.
Simultaneously, the switch from cathode-ray tubes to high definition televisions made that same low-light cinematography look worse than it ever had before, especially on lower-end models. Meanwhile, cable companies switched to digital distribution, applying their own video compression to the already-compressed signals they got from networks. Streaming services like HBO Now do the same thing in order to fit HDTV signals into as little internet bandwidth as possible. Every time lossy video compression is applied to the video, the image quality drops. And guess what kind of scenes current video compression techniques do the worst job with? It’s a perfect storm: Every recent advance in television technology seems to have been designed specifically to make “The Long Night” difficult to make out.
...there’s just no way to feed images like the ones in “The Long Night” into the current television distribution system and have them look good in everyone’s living room. "
Why You Couldn’t See a Damn Thing in This Week’s Game of Thrones
Guess that why I didn't have an issue with it. I use HBO GO and a cheap 55" Vizio.This article suggests the best way to watch is HBOnow on older TV's, which was not my setup.
"It was also a whirlwind tour of the limits of video compression algorithms and home video display technology. Which is to say that a lot of people couldn’t see anything. On Sunday night, Twitter was full of viewerscomplaining about the show’s cinematography, which has often been dark, but never quite so consistently stygian.
...it’s hard to think of a better recent use of darkness than the defeat of the Dothraki in this week’s episode. The problem is that the entire television infrastructure that distributes Game of Thrones, from the cameras in Ireland to the eyeball in your own personal head, does a uniquely bad job with dimly lit scenes. And “The Long Night” was practically nothing else.
Simultaneously, the switch from cathode-ray tubes to high definition televisions made that same low-light cinematography look worse than it ever had before, especially on lower-end models. Meanwhile, cable companies switched to digital distribution, applying their own video compression to the already-compressed signals they got from networks. Streaming services like HBO Now do the same thing in order to fit HDTV signals into as little internet bandwidth as possible. Every time lossy video compression is applied to the video, the image quality drops. And guess what kind of scenes current video compression techniques do the worst job with? It’s a perfect storm: Every recent advance in television technology seems to have been designed specifically to make “The Long Night” difficult to make out.
...there’s just no way to feed images like the ones in “The Long Night” into the current television distribution system and have them look good in everyone’s living room. "
Why You Couldn’t See a Damn Thing in This Week’s Game of Thrones
lol...that's awesome and sad at the same time.
so my old DLP gets a W. nice.....
but a lot of that makes sense, since a lot the newer technology for the TV's is designed to make the black....blacker/deeper. so i could see the TV being it's own worst enemy when trying to display a "less than" version of what was intended....via the compressed video.
not sure how much it matters, but i have fiber, so maybe that enhanced the quality a bit? add that to the DLP format, and while still very dark, with a dark room, it looked like a movie to me.....
good read.
this one is 1080p, and actually 3d. great TV...have thought about replacing it, but just can't. i got it for $500 8 or so years ago as an out of the box special. paid $60 for the 3d kit....and it's been a very good TV.I loved mine, even though the bulb got really temperamental and sometimes took minutes to fire up. The picture was great at just 720p and it was a huge upgrade over anything I had prior.